The more I think about it, the more of an aversion I'm developing to the 
idea that many types of trips are possible with a bike. Maybe a folding 
bike, but not the Ram. 
 
Doug, you've pointed out the unpleasant reality that lugging a bike around 
can be a pain. I think in my case, for my mental well-being, I can only 
consider simple there-and-back trips that are planned for the purpose of 
riding. I can envision a trip to SF in my mind, because it will be a 
cycling destination, and I have somewhere to stay where I can store the 
bike and the box. I can certainly see a more complicated trip, such as 
touring across Europe with multiple legs of the journey, turning into a 
logisitical nightmare.
 
I'm happy stinge-ing it, I think. Renting/borrowing a box for the first 
time out, and taking the bike I have in its current state, and just eating 
the fees as part of the trip, makes sense to me.
 
KJ
 

On Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:12:52 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:

> You've thought of a couple of the unintended consequences of traveling 
> with a bike.  Remember you need the box for the return trip.  
>
> While it seems quite practical, putting together a bike at the airport 
> after a long distance flight is nothing I would ever attempt.  I'm too 
> dingy at that point to have much chance of doing it right, plus all the 
> other assorted hassles of the airport.
>
> If you are doing a loop ride and flying back out of the same airport, use 
> a cab or shuttle to get you & your bike to lodging.  They usually have 
> large enough vehicles to carry the bike.  If you arrange it in advance, you 
> can find a place to store the box while you are on your trip.  
>
> If you are doing a point-to-point, it gets a bit tricky.  Here you'll want 
> a disposable box (scrounged from your LBS) for the outbound leg and arrange 
> with a bike shop at the end of your trip for a box for the return.  
> Hopefully since your flying some distance it will be a big airport in a 
> major city with bike shops.  
>
> If you are flying in someplace, then renting a car to get out to the start 
> of the bike portion, the parts of the bike (frame, wheels, etc) are easier 
> to get in a rental car than the boxed bike.  Cars with conventional trunks 
> don't hold much & are awkwardly shaped for large objects like bikes.  Vans 
> are the answer but also expensive and in high demand during vacation season.
>
> "What if the bike is only part of the trip?"  Now you're in a pickle.  As 
> agile as a bike may be when ridden, it's a huge anchor to drag around if 
> you're not using it.  Solutions are renting a bike for the portion you need 
> it (say, 1 week out of a 2-3 week vacation) or arranging to store your own 
> bike some place convenient (and safe!).  
>
> It's stuff like this that made S&S couplers business.  I don't have one 
> but have packed an S&S equipped bike.  It's amazing but that 62" suitcase 
> fills up fast.  
>
> dougP
>
>

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