I can certainly see how it would be more convenient to schlep around. But I 
am a little concerned about this size frame fitting into the S&S box. I 
haven't done any extensive reading or first hand trying, but it looks like 
it might be a no-go.
 
KJ
 

On Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:10:02 PM UTC-5, dailyrandonneur wrote:

> I've traveled with singles and tandems, both full size and S&S. Every 
> airline is different as another responder mentioned, and they change their 
> policies from time to time, so nothing is completely static. 
>
> One relative constant has been allowable size for checked luggage, 62 
> linear inches. Outside that dimension you typically pay oversize fees even 
> if you don't exceed the maxiumum weight limit. 
>
> For the occasional trip, there is no doubt that paying the oversize fee 
> and dragging around a full-size bike box is cheaper. I liked the Crateworks 
> corrugated plastic box, it is lighter than a hard case but tougher than 
> cardboard, folds up for storage and can be re-used. 
>
> After a few trips, however, you could end up pay as much in fees as buying 
> couplers and the S&S case. The advantages of S&S, in terms of reduced 
> packing hassle and ease of movement during your trip, are of value to me 
> even if I never fully pay off through travel. This is especially true with 
> a tandem, where the trouble of lugging a huge box and paying big fees at 
> the counter isn't my idea of fun travel. 
>
> If you know you are going to travel with a frameset and are getting it 
> repainted anyway, it's the right time to consider couplers. I recommend 
> them. 
>
> Ed
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:16:04 AM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: 
>>
>>  Hey Y'alls,
>>  
>> I'm starting to think about air travel with a bike, with the first 
>> possible destination of the Bay Area this upcoming summer (hoping to 
>> repatriate the Ram Dawg, at least for a visit).
>>  
>> Do any of you have experience with bike boxes or bike bags, on an 
>> airline? TSC/ATA cases, fabric bags, cardboard bike boxes even?
>>  
>> At first, I entertained the idea of installing S&S couplers on the Ram 
>> (it needs new paint anyways) but together, the retrofit would cost large 
>> $$. So now I'm thinking about just flying with it, as is. The Ram is a 
>> 66cm, so finding a box that would accommodate its sprawl would be one of 
>> the chief concerns. 
>>  
>> Any good experiences? Things to avoid? Anything to report with 
>> various airlines' policies and costs, as well?
>>  
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> Kieran in Toronto
>>
>

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