The suspension a arms and bulkhead are T-Maxx: a much simpler setup than the 
Revo (with their odd, horizontal, parallel mounted short-travel 
shocks/springs...)
And I was under the impression that there was a lot more than 
soft/medium/firm...
Here's a few for the Revo (not what I'm using, but you get the idea):
http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=4404&p_catid=73


> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:11:03 -0800
> Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> most companies offer springs as hard soft medium etc. I dont think
> they quote actual rates all the time. HPI quote rates i thinkk and
> most of the savage shocks mount on a t-maxx. Not sure on revo. Which
> one is it your using again? check out  http://www.rctech.net
> 
> On 30 Nov, 17:46, whitney james <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I personally support me having enough money to get a decent CAD program. :D
> >
> > As to the suspension parts: I suppose I have the "budget", it's just a 
> > matter of spreading it out over time. That, and I'm not sure if the 
> > made-for-it springs will handle the weight. They have different stiffness 
> > ratings, so I'll most likely wait until I have the basic structure 
> > assembled, throw in some weights to simulate the final B1, and then just 
> > weigh the whole thing, divide it out to weight per tire, run those numbers 
> > against the stiffest things I can find at a hobbie shop, and if they work: 
> > it's back to Ebay. If not... well, I'll have to find something else. 
> > Unfortunately, springs are a bit of a mystery to me.
> > I have no clue how they're rated, distance of travel, compression rates, 
> > etc.
> > So, it'll be very much a trial and error thing...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:30:08 -0800
> > > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> >
> > > Well. I support cad. More accurate as you can put the motors in aswell
> > > and my laptop which i run SU from can be taken about anywhere. Pencil
> > > and paper: well i cant draw well but ive seen technical DRAWINGS and
> > > they will get you where you want i
> > > guess.                                        Back to actual topic of
> > > the APC. Suspension: if you cant find space in budget for commercial
> > > suspension parts could you not make the build so its possible to mount
> > > commercial parts and then use some cheap DIY setup. When some of it
> > > fails replace with heavy duty commercial because by then the main
> > > build will be out of the way so your budget should be freed up again
> >
> > > On 30 Nov, 16:44, whitney james <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > All right, Wow!
> >
> > > > CAD Vs Pencil drawn: I think I’ve found the new blood sport!
> >
> > > > If I may hijack this MOST interesting conversation? (apologetic
> > > > smiley face thingy…)
> >
> > > > Ahem…
> >
> > > > YEEE!
> >
> > > > (Ok, regain composure…)
> >
> > > > I’ve gotten my first set of parts in the mail! They came
> > > > Sat, just 3 days after the ebay seller (integrajspec: these guys are 
> > > > creative
> > > > with names!) said they had been send off. Very agreeable chap by the 
> > > > way!
> >
> > > > Well, I won’t bother with pictures, as they aren’t really
> > > > attached to anything (or each other) yet, and you can easily see them 
> > > > online. However,
> > > > as I’m sure you’re all dying to hear about them (likely as not, you’re 
> > > > not really
> > > > all THAT interested, but it’s a dull Mon and I have some time on my 
> > > > hands, so I’m
> > > > going to do my best to bore you…)
> >
> > > > First off, the A-Arms. They’re black (Oooo!), and there’s 4
> > > > upper, and 4 lower arms in this package. Now all I need is that same 
> > > > number
> > > > again…
> >
> > > > Not all that much remarkable about the color. Also, I’m not
> > > > enough of a materials expert to tell whether they really are molded 
> > > > nylon or
> > > > just nicely textured plastic, but they feel pretty tough and rigid.
> >
> > > > The upper arm is definitely thinner than the lower arm, but
> > > > that’s not a major issue as the weight is largely born by the lower 
> > > > arm. If I
> > > > really torque it, I can get some twist out of it, and if I really put 
> > > > my back
> > > > into it, I could probably bust it, but I’d rather not. J
> >
> > > > The lower arm is pretty beefy. I can’t get any twisting
> > > > movement out of it by hand, and the material is fairly thick: both 
> > > > sides of the
> > > > arm are about as thick as my pinky. Not that I’d expect any of you to 
> > > > know how
> > > > thick my pinky is, but you (maybe?) get the idea. It’s also well 
> > > > designed, in
> > > > that it’s bowed upwards slightly, giving it good geometry to the task 
> > > > at hand
> > > > with 4 different holes for mounting the shocks/springs/bouncy thingies. 
> > > > Still
> > > > not sure if I want to fork over the cash for the commercial units, or 
> > > > if I
> > > > should go with a custom setup. Still, the mounting holes are nice, and 
> > > > will be
> > > > used. Length wise, they’re pretty good sized; being about 4 inches 
> > > > long, and
> > > > the widest (the upper) being maybe 2.5~3 inches wide. A fact I doubt 
> > > > you really
> > > > care about.
> >
> > > > Next up, the bulkheads. They’re gray. Gray and black go well
> > > > together so I should have a nicely color coordinated undercarriage 
> > > > here. Ok...
> > > > Too much information…
> >
> > > > They have what looks to be an equally good design, made out
> > > > of the same material as the swing arms. They’re also VERY tough, and I 
> > > > can’t
> > > > get any flex out of them by hand. They have two mounting holes on the 
> > > > bottom,
> > > > which will be used to connect them to a base plate, and several other 
> > > > holes
> > > > both through them in various directions which will be immensely useful 
> > > > for bracing
> > > > them inside the B1 and building the rest of the body around them.
> >
> > > > They also have a very close fit with the swing arms, so
> > > > there should be minimal bending stress on the hinge pins: only shearing 
> > > > stress.
> > > > However, the pins are about the same size as a 10d nail (AKA: big 
> > > > enough to
> > > > very effectively impale your hand or to be used as an average sized 
> > > > framing
> > > > nail), so there shouldn’t be any fear of them giving out.
> >
> > > > Right! That’s it for this installment of the build… or
> > > > rather this installment of the lead up to the build (Argh! This is 
> > > > going to
> > > > take soooo long!), so you may now resume your regularly scheduled 
> > > > programming of:
> >
> > > > (in big loud booming voice…)
> >
> > > > CAD VS PAPER AND PENCIL!!!!
> >
> > > > (cheering fans in the distance….)
> >
> > > > Toodles,
> >
> > > > James
> >
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