I do 3-d modeling at work using solidworks   , have the software at home as 
well 

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Hi Charlie, thank you for your reply.  Yes that's exactly the process I was 
thinking about.  I would love to get 1 sprocket, 1 of each type wheel, 1 idler, 
1 track link and perhaps a couple pieces of the suspension parts scanned if 
Todd would be interested in doing it.   And maybe a couple more pieces that I'm 
neglecting to think about right now.   This is totally uncharted territory for 
me so I'm not sure how small a part he would need to start with.  Plus I will 
need to bring the small scale model to the shop first and bother Frank and the 
guys to see if all the parts fit together properly and would actually roll.  It 
would be great if he could scan pieces of a 1/35 scale model and get a good 
quality scan.  Then we can scale it up to 1/6th and have it printed.  
  
I consider this a unique and unusual project, it's in preparation for my next 
tank after finishing the KT, a 1/6 scale Maus.  Just figured it would be good 
to start getting parts together for it over the winter.  :)    
  
 Kind regards, 
John 
On 11/03/11, Charlie Mann<[email protected]> wrote: 
I've got a friend with free access to a 3-D scanner, and he's also pretty good 
with making 3-D CAD models, then printing them at Shapeways. It sounds like you 
want to scan an object, then blow it up, basically the opposite of this video: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Xk91zXsX4 

Todd is pretty busy, but is always interested in unique and unusual projects. 
If you've got a few parts to scan, perhaps we can ask Todd if he's got time to 
work on them. The real expense would be 3-D printing the masters, then the cost 
of silicone and the resin for the reproductions. Even with using mold release, 
eventually silicone molds wear out and rip. That's why you preserve the master 
and make multiple molds. 

Charlie 


On 11/3/11 10:27 AM, [email protected] wrote: 




In a message dated 11/3/2011 6:49:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes: 
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What I'm wondering though is would it be cost effective to purchase a 1/35 or 
1/16 model and have 1 piece of each running gear and 1 track link 3d scanned, 
then enlarge it in our own 3d programs and have the masters 3d printed.  Then 
Frank can do his magic with the molding process? 
  
John    


as i don't know how much scans would be so i can't say cost wise how it'll be 
cost effective in the end as it might just put you out price wise. but since 
you do your own 3-D stuff, it should bring the prince down. 
  
as for casting some of these parts, i was looking to do the tracks and 
sprockets for the Tiger before i did the current tracks but the consensus was 
that the track links would end up stretching and the sprocket wheels wouldn't 
hold up. 
  
but if your still willing to try resin tracks and sprockets such as on the real 
tank, then you'll need to change resins to something stronger such as a task-3 
(pretty sure that's what i used, i'll have to look), and pressure cast the 
parts, and at that point, you'd have to also vacuum the rubber as when you 
pressure cast, any air bubble left in the rubber will end up give you a pickle 
effect once those air bubbles in the mold collapse. 
  
another thing, for the track links, i'd cast in some small sections of brass 
tubing to work as bearings between the pin and the link otherwise your pin will 
start to wear on the resin. 
  
but if they were cast in metal.......... 
  
and as for my mold not being done right causing it to rip, it was done right, 
but it wasn't for tracks (i forget what it was, as it happened a while ago). 
  
Chris, 
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