Im not saying extra features automatically make something better. I am
saying the Sabertooth has features the talon doesnt, and if you think those
features are important then the choice is obvious. A slow moving tank
doesnt need exponential response. Something with a very high speed and yaw
rate may find better stability from it though.

SSRs, just like the MAG, are a design compromise that favour extreme
simplicity at the expensive (and less extreme but still steep in the case
of SSRs) cost of capabilities. For some people these are acceptable, for
others they arent. People can and should make their own decisions, based on
what they need.




On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Frank Pittelli <[email protected]>wrote:

> Probably because some readers never consider the concept that some of the
> articles on the web site have been posted for well over a decade and may
> contain out-of-date information or may be intended for people who want to
> spend as little as possible to operate a vehicle. For example, the MAG
> relay controller with diode mixer (invented 13+ years ago) still holds the
> record for the least expensive on-off tank-style mixing controller that
> anyone with basic wiring skills can build. I can assure you that more than
> a few of us "old guard" are sufficiently tech savvy and still
> design/make/use some truly state-of-the-art components.
>
> BTW: New and/or more features doesn't necessarily mean "better".
> Reliability and "effectiveness" are the keys to success.  The solid state
> relays that you denounce controlled both the Tiger and Hetzer in 100+
> combined battles over a 10+ year period.  While the early versions of
> Sabertooth and other more expensive ESCs were blowing up on a regular
> basis, those "arcane" solid state relays and a simple 16-bit PIC controller
> were still going.
>
> More importantly, at the time they were first introduced by Dr. Sommer,
> the overall system solution was roughly 50% of the equivalent commercially
> available system, thereby allowing more people to use proportional control
> without spending too much.  Now (after 10+ years), commercially available
> systems (like the Talon) have finally come down to that price point, while
> providing the same level of reliability.
>
>         Frank Pittelli, Ph.D.
>         School of Been There, Done That, And Then Some
>
>
> On 4/7/2014 4:03 PM, isaac goldman wrote:
>
>> Ive also never understood why the old guard on this mailing list insist
>> on using the most arcane or feature-deprived methods and technology they
>> can find; case-in-point the MAGs and the people who use solid state
>> relays.
>>
>
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