Troy, google for "long tail". Alternatively, name a Java app that is well-known. Bonus points if you can think of one of any quality whatsoever! REAL Software doesn't need Photoshop or Word to be written in REALbasic to thrive. My experience in the developer tools market going back 12 years tells me that chasing the big game so you have a glowing neon high-profile success story tends to be the quickest way to blow your cash and wear out your people. Examples: OpenDoc, BeOS, (Whatever)-Base, ... YMMV, but I think it's a much stronger endorsement that lots of people can create great software with REALbasic than that any one particular company has.

-Brad

P.S. My XCode comment started this tangent. I have the same aversion to XCode that I do to Visual Studio. The platform vendors generally don't do as good a job as third parties developing tools. When they do, their offerings are like crack: designed to lock you in. I just finished reading and following Apple's smug "migrating from CodeWarrior" guide and I'm deeply saddened that CodeWarrior is less of an option. From the first time I used CodeWarrior, I always felt like someone was trying to help me manage the complexities of developing my software. XCode feels like someone didn't want to write a compiler and wanted to make it feel like iTunes. I'm sure a lot of Apple developers feel a sense of pride in being XCode experts, and that's the problem.

On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:36 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:

Put it this way... try to name an application in any field, which 1) all of us on this list know, which was made in RealBasic. Maybe this is possible. Then 2) mention that app to the most computer software savvy person you know, who is NOT an RB-based developer... will they recognize it too? All the apps I mentioned would meet that test. We all know them, and so do all those people we would choose to ask. This is really what I meant by "world class, commercial applications." Software that is well-known for its quality, functionality, and reliability.

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