Hello, First of all, sorry for the long post, but I need some space to explain my thoughts. Please let me explain what I want to realise.
First of all, there seem to be issues with the AJAX demo. I developed it in two days to test how far i could go with it, so please don't expect the use of any framework of the like. I wanted to test the possibilities of pure AJAX at displaying video. I tested the URL successfully on Firefox 1.5.0.5 (Kubuntu dapper, KDE 3.5.3). Please don't shoot if it doesn't work on your box, it hasn't been tested extensively. Also, the site where it is hosted is very standard, so perhaps you could try again in some time if it failed. Roberto issued that I didn't make my point where Red5 fits in. This question makes sense, because that's exactly what I want to get to know with the Instrudeo project. I'm just spilling random thoughts and technologies, and I'm willing to spend time, effort and money in the project, as long as other people are interested too. Based on my two little examples in the beginning of the post, I guess a lot of people can think of places or areas where Red5 could fit in the project, since the entire idea is based on the core-functionality that Red5 provides: delivering video from one peer to another. So don't ask me questions, just tell me what you'd like to see happen, or even better, provoke a bazaar-like discussion. ;-) The idea of capturing video, and upstreaming it at the same time is probably key to the first realizable implementation I want to strive to. I guess this is the easiest technology where I can get some money for, too. Speaking of earning something out of it, I noticed some people are mentioning the use of GPL (or better, the lack of using LGPL), which is a very good remark. Perhaps we can develop a Trolltech-like business model where the technology stays available for the community, but is (at least a bit) profitable under a commercial license. So I guess this is a splendid tip. Regarding crossplatform capturing; this currently happens using VNC/RFB. I'm communicating with the creators of Istanbul (and perhaps PiTiVi) to add XDamage-support (I'm writing a gstreamer plugin for the Instrudeo file format, too), but the use of VNC is key to (quick and easy) cross-platform capturing. As mentioned, the client is still only available for Linux, but is very heavily detached from it's backend library (libinstrudeo), which should be easily portable. However, I don't have any Windows/Mac programming experience. To sum up, it seems there are others who are thinking about the same thing, which is great. If enough people show interest and spill ideas, I'm willing to spend some time on this, because I like the idea very much. As said, I believe in finding some financial support for it too. Perhaps it's time to create a community-inspired project, combining different projects as independent contributors to something larger. Once again, tell me what you think. Bram On Sunday 3 September 2006 21:06, Sascha wrote: > Hello Bram > > i read ur mail very interested and i also thought of something similar... > > i also tried to visite your site, with my Firefox 1.0.7 i get this: > > I'm sorry, your browser doesn't support this application. > As an alternative, you can download Firefox at > http://www.getfirefox.com > > > i think i should upgrade it .... with opera the site gets loaded but the > video stayes blue. > > > I also have a two questions, > > 1) i read about screenKast on sourceforge, it uses the GPL license not > the LGPL > license, so you would have serious problems using it in commerial > Software or better > keeping the sourcecode private for commercial projects, or am i wrong? > > 2) screenKast is only available for linux os-systems, as far as i read, > so it has no usability for 96,7 % of all pc users, > or did i missed something on sourcforge and the captorials.com website, > what is your audience ? > > greetz from Xanten, Germany > Sascha > > Bram Biesbrouck schrieb: > > Hi all, > > > > Perhaps you know it, or you don't, but for the past year, I've been > > working on something, I like to call 'the Instrudeo project' (Instrudeo = > > instruction+video). The whole concept of the Instrudeo project is to use > > screen-recordings and screencasting for a whole lot more then what it is > > used for today. It's based on the concept of community-created > > videocontent, using free and open-source screen-recording software (like > > Istanbul and ScreenKast), but connected to the web. Current > > screen-recording programs are designed to produce static video content, > > possibly editable, but that's about it. I'd like to expand this concept > > to the web, creating a flexible basis or library for more interesting > > applications. One idea is to create a client that can broadcast and > > record the video-stream on the fly, so you can help people out, just by > > doing the required actions on your desktop, having the possibility to > > edit the recorded stream afterwards and publish it as a 'solved > > solution'. A second one is a AJAX-based video player, which I nearly > > completed (check http://beligum.org/testbed/). > > > > My testbed was (and still is) ScreenKast, which is also a client for > > http://captorials.com and it's backend-webservice, but I don't want to > > stop here. My goal is to join some people together in an action-group who > > actively think about how we can use screencasts in new technologies. The > > community is always blamed that we aren't able to create new > > technologies, and I'd like to be a part of one of the counter-examples, > > but I can't do it alone, so I'm recruiting ;-) > > > > Of course, there's need for some funding or sponsoring; for the past > > year, I established some connections with people who are interested in > > the idea, and are willing to help in one way or the other. An example: > > I've bought two Dell PowerEdge servers that are colocated in Brussels > > (hosting captorials.com). The colocation-hosting is entirely sponsored by > > E-Bo Enterprises (http://www.e-bo.be), a company in Ypres (Belgium) who > > is manufacturing thin client solutions, together with VMware and are on > > the verge of going global. This week, I had a very interesting meeting > > with a person from Lille (France), who is the CEO of Speechi > > (http://speechi.net), a company that specializes in recording and > > publishing Powerpoint-sessions. As a third, I've been in contact with one > > of the largest bandwith providers here in Belgium > > (http://www.realroot.com), who was willing to sponsor some rackspace and > > an uplink. > > > > If you are interested in the idea of creating some new and progressive > > screencasting technologies, please mail me your thoughts and forward this > > mail to other interesting people. For the moment, I don't have a job > > (ScreenKast and Captorials took 100% of my time the last year), but as my > > savings run dry, I'll need to start looking for one if I want to keep > > paying my rent. Besides sponsoring, I see some opportunities in making > > money by displaying ads for open-source projects, partnering with > > FOSS-businesses to share technologies, creating promotional video's, etc. > > The final goal is to make a living with creating FOSS software, playing > > around with new technologies and just having fun. > > > > Tell me what you think. > > > > Bram Biesbrouck > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Red5 mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > _______________________________________________ > Red5 mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
