Ray, get back to the realm of possibility. There is a zero percent chance
that Smoltz will be traded before he gets to the majors and shows he can
still pitch. And if he's successful, there's a zero percent chance he's used
as a sweetener to take Papi off our hands.

If Papi can't shake this, there's a chance that the Sox will eat his
contract, but they're not going to pay another team for the privilege.

Steve O

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wouldn't put too much weight behind "class" as a trade demotivator.
> Remember Arroyo's hometown discount and subsequent trade.  Now THAT was
> classless.
>
> As for Smoltz, who cares if he wanted to be a trade chit.  As they told
> Crash Davis, "You get to come to the ballpark each day and get paid for
> doing it."
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Steve Ouellette 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> There's no way they're going to up and trade Smoltz before he throws a
>> pitch for them, coming off of shoulder surgery. 1) because he doesn't have
>> much value until he shows he can pitch and 2) it's a classless way of
>> handling him -- he didn't agree to come to Boston as a trade chit.
>>
>> Steve O
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> If he means to retire then he should do it, and decrease the surplus
>>> population. -- Scrooge Salemi.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes but doesn't Papi have a clause to stop a trade?  Anyway, if the
>>>> news has any baring Papi wants to stay put and would rather retire
>>>> then be traded.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Why do you say that?  I can see him retiring because nobody wants him,
>>>> but I
>>>> > if a trade offer became available I think the org would jump on it.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> More likely Papi will retire here before the org would trade him.  I
>>>> see
>>>> >> the FO giving him till the All Star game before putting any real
>>>> changes
>>>> >> into place.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sent from Larry's iPhone
>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]
>>>> >
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> And they'll be trading their
>>>> >>
>>>> worst-hitter-in-the-majors-who-can't-play-defense-and-makes-$14-million-next-year
>>>> >> to who exactly?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Steve O
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Now that Smolz is coming back it's time to package him up with Papi
>>>> and
>>>> >>> send them on his way.  The Sox need a real DH and getting rid of
>>>> Ortiz will
>>>> >>> make room for that to happen.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide"
>>>> >>> www.fpgasimulation.com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide"
>>>> > www.fpgasimulation.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide"
>>> www.fpgasimulation.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide"
> www.fpgasimulation.com
>
>
> >
>

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