And spare me the chatter about Arroyo's hometown discount. I think he's been overpaid.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting fact about newly signed free agents. Can't trade them until > June 15, according to the CBA. (at least that's what i think i heard the > other day.) > > Penny would be traded before Smoltz. THey're not trading smoltz. > > > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Steve Ouellette > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I'm not giving up either. He's been too good for too long to completely >> lose it overnight. I think. >> >> Though he is looking painfully like Tony Clark that one year ... without >> the good defense. >> >> Steve O >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Lobosco, Angelo >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I think it’s too early to completely throw in the towel on Ortiz. How >>> about bringing Ron Jackson back, just to work with Ortiz? Send the two of >>> them off somewhere for a few weeks and see what happens... >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ouellette >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:23 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: Trade Papi >>> >>> >>> >>> Ray, get back to the realm of possibility. There is a zero percent chance >>> that Smoltz will be traded before he gets to the majors and shows he can >>> still pitch. And if he's successful, there's a zero percent chance he's used >>> as a sweetener to take Papi off our hands. >>> >>> If Papi can't shake this, there's a chance that the Sox will eat his >>> contract, but they're not going to pay another team for the privilege. >>> >>> Steve O >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I wouldn't put too much weight behind "class" as a trade demotivator. >>> >>> >>> >>> Remember Arroyo's hometown discount and subsequent trade. Now THAT was >>> classless. >>> >>> >>> >>> As for Smoltz, who cares if he wanted to be a trade chit. As they told >>> Crash Davis, "You get to come to the ballpark each day and get paid for >>> doing it." >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> There's no way they're going to up and trade Smoltz before he throws a >>> pitch for them, coming off of shoulder surgery. 1) because he doesn't have >>> much value until he shows he can pitch and 2) it's a classless way of >>> handling him -- he didn't agree to come to Boston as a trade chit. >>> >>> Steve O >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> If he means to retire then he should do it, and decrease the surplus >>> population. -- Scrooge Salemi. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> yes but doesn't Papi have a clause to stop a trade? Anyway, if the >>> news has any baring Papi wants to stay put and would rather retire >>> then be traded. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Why do you say that? I can see him retiring because nobody wants him, >>> but I >>> > if a trade offer became available I think the org would jump on it. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> More likely Papi will retire here before the org would trade him. I >>> see >>> >> the FO giving him till the All Star game before putting any real >>> changes >>> >> into place. >>> >> >>> >> Sent from Larry's iPhone >>> >> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> And they'll be trading their >>> >> >>> worst-hitter-in-the-majors-who-can't-play-defense-and-makes-$14-million-next-year >>> >> to who exactly? >>> >> >>> >> Steve O >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Now that Smolz is coming back it's time to package him up with Papi >>> and >>> >>> send them on his way. 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