I'm not saying that Arroyo was paid right. I'm saying that "class" has little to do with trades.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > And spare me the chatter about Arroyo's hometown discount. I think he's > been overpaid. > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Interesting fact about newly signed free agents. Can't trade them until >> June 15, according to the CBA. (at least that's what i think i heard the >> other day.) >> >> Penny would be traded before Smoltz. THey're not trading smoltz. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Steve Ouellette >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I'm not giving up either. He's been too good for too long to completely >>> lose it overnight. I think. >>> >>> Though he is looking painfully like Tony Clark that one year ... without >>> the good defense. >>> >>> Steve O >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Lobosco, Angelo <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> I think it’s too early to completely throw in the towel on Ortiz. How >>>> about bringing Ron Jackson back, just to work with Ortiz? Send the two of >>>> them off somewhere for a few weeks and see what happens... >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ouellette >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:23 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: Trade Papi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ray, get back to the realm of possibility. There is a zero percent >>>> chance that Smoltz will be traded before he gets to the majors and shows he >>>> can still pitch. And if he's successful, there's a zero percent chance he's >>>> used as a sweetener to take Papi off our hands. >>>> >>>> If Papi can't shake this, there's a chance that the Sox will eat his >>>> contract, but they're not going to pay another team for the privilege. >>>> >>>> Steve O >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I wouldn't put too much weight behind "class" as a trade demotivator. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Remember Arroyo's hometown discount and subsequent trade. Now THAT was >>>> classless. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As for Smoltz, who cares if he wanted to be a trade chit. As they told >>>> Crash Davis, "You get to come to the ballpark each day and get paid for >>>> doing it." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> There's no way they're going to up and trade Smoltz before he throws a >>>> pitch for them, coming off of shoulder surgery. 1) because he doesn't have >>>> much value until he shows he can pitch and 2) it's a classless way of >>>> handling him -- he didn't agree to come to Boston as a trade chit. >>>> >>>> Steve O >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> If he means to retire then he should do it, and decrease the surplus >>>> population. -- Scrooge Salemi. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> yes but doesn't Papi have a clause to stop a trade? Anyway, if the >>>> news has any baring Papi wants to stay put and would rather retire >>>> then be traded. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Why do you say that? I can see him retiring because nobody wants him, >>>> but I >>>> > if a trade offer became available I think the org would jump on it. >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> More likely Papi will retire here before the org would trade him. I >>>> see >>>> >> the FO giving him till the All Star game before putting any real >>>> changes >>>> >> into place. >>>> >> >>>> >> Sent from Larry's iPhone >>>> >> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected] >>>> > >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> And they'll be trading their >>>> >> >>>> worst-hitter-in-the-majors-who-can't-play-defense-and-makes-$14-million-next-year >>>> >> to who exactly? >>>> >> >>>> >> Steve O >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Now that Smolz is coming back it's time to package him up with Papi >>>> and >>>> >>> send them on his way. 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