I think that data like this will eventually force a change to umpiring. It may not be public, but there's no way people are going to ignore this data, especially in the playoffs.
Obviously Wake had a smaller strike zone because he's a knuckleball pitcher, not a control pitcher. The ump will give that ever-expanding corner to a control pitcher with a good reputation, thus turning baseball into something like figure skating. Ray On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: > The ump didn’t give Toronto the corners either. > > Look at the picture again. It’s the old “strike zone turned on its side” > thing we used to deal with. > > And why do they have a square as the strike zone. Clearly, it should be a > vertically oriented rectangle unless someone is 5’2” or shorter. > > > > Even though it was on it’s side, the ump clearly expanded the strike zone > horizontally for Toronto. > > > > Don’t forget that Wakefield was pitching. Nothing in or out mid-height. > There’s clearly a bunch of pitches low and to the right, but almost none > high and outside or inside. Big gaping holes. Must be on purpose. I think > those are great balls to hit and clearly the pitchers don’t want to go > there. > > > > I want to see this graph for every game. > > > > John > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Oh well.... > > > > I still don't understand how an arbitrary strike zone is supposed to add to > the game. It kills me wheni hear Orel Hersheiser (who did a great job > Sunday) say that Lester needed to "train the ump" or will get a low ball > called a strike because "he has great control" > > On May 13, 2010, at 5:17 AM, "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Really cool data. > > But why isn’t Ortiz’s data on the big data map? Try to find his 7th pitch. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:35 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Oh well.... > > > > Interesting..... > > http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/05/dale_scotts_str.html > > > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 6:59:26 AM > Subject: Re: Oh well.... > > Steve G is right. The strike zone was an extra 18 inches wide. The whole "as > long as the umpire is consistent" thing is all fine and good, but batters > couldn't even reach what was being called a strike. > > Steve O > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There were about a dozen screw you calls then > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beaudoin, John > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:56 PM > > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Oh well.... > > > > Okay, but technology wasn't needed for that one. That was a "screw you" > call. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed May 12 18:20:45 2010 > Subject: RE: Oh well.... > > > > Don't get me started on my "Dump the Umps" tirade again. MLB needs to step > up and solve this problem. The technology we have today just keeps making > them look bad. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Oh well.... > > I just saw the ball that was called a strike on Papi in the 9th. That had to > be the worst strike call I have ever seen. > > > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:49:21 PM > Subject: Re: Oh well.... > > Man, there was some really, really terrible strike calls out there today. > Balls that were 18 inches off the plate. Exhibit A in the case for using > computers to call balls and strikes. > > Steve O > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > ...a 7-3 homestand ain't half bad. Just gotta keep winning series..... Wake > did a great job in his spot-start. > > > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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