You'll have them as soon as there's a computer that can show, objectively, whether the foul happened. But there isn't so basketball must suffer.
It's going to be interesting to see umps respond to pitch-by-pitch analysis of how much they suck. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm eager to see the NBA's new Robot Refs, the ones that don't always give > the benefit of the call to the more established players. > > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think that data like this will eventually force a change to >> umpiring. It may not be public, but there's no way people are going >> to ignore this data, especially in the playoffs. >> >> Obviously Wake had a smaller strike zone because he's a knuckleball >> pitcher, not a control pitcher. The ump will give that ever-expanding >> corner to a control pitcher with a good reputation, thus turning >> baseball into something like figure skating. >> >> Ray >> >> >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Beaudoin, John >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The ump didn’t give Toronto the corners either. >> > >> > Look at the picture again. It’s the old “strike zone turned on its >> > side” >> > thing we used to deal with. >> > >> > And why do they have a square as the strike zone. Clearly, it should be >> > a >> > vertically oriented rectangle unless someone is 5’2” or shorter. >> > >> > >> > >> > Even though it was on it’s side, the ump clearly expanded the strike >> > zone >> > horizontally for Toronto. >> > >> > >> > >> > Don’t forget that Wakefield was pitching. Nothing in or out mid-height. >> > There’s clearly a bunch of pitches low and to the right, but almost >> > none >> > high and outside or inside. Big gaping holes. Must be on purpose. I >> > think >> > those are great balls to hit and clearly the pitchers don’t want to go >> > there. >> > >> > >> > >> > I want to see this graph for every game. >> > >> > >> > >> > John >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi >> > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:45 AM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: Oh well.... >> > >> > >> > >> > I still don't understand how an arbitrary strike zone is supposed to add >> > to >> > the game. It kills me wheni hear Orel Hersheiser (who did a great job >> > Sunday) say that Lester needed to "train the ump" or will get a low ball >> > called a strike because "he has great control" >> > >> > On May 13, 2010, at 5:17 AM, "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Really cool data. >> > >> > But why isn’t Ortiz’s data on the big data map? Try to find his 7th >> > pitch. >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase >> > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:35 AM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: Oh well.... >> > >> > >> > >> > Interesting..... >> > >> > >> > http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/05/dale_scotts_str.html >> > >> > >> > >> > Dan D >> > Central NJ USA >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 6:59:26 AM >> > Subject: Re: Oh well.... >> > >> > Steve G is right. The strike zone was an extra 18 inches wide. The whole >> > "as >> > long as the umpire is consistent" thing is all fine and good, but >> > batters >> > couldn't even reach what was being called a strike. >> > >> > Steve O >> > >> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > There were about a dozen screw you calls then >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beaudoin, John >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:56 PM >> > >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: Oh well.... >> > >> > >> > >> > Okay, but technology wasn't needed for that one. That was a "screw you" >> > call. >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wed May 12 18:20:45 2010 >> > Subject: RE: Oh well.... >> > >> > >> > >> > Don't get me started on my "Dump the Umps" tirade again. MLB needs to >> > step >> > up and solve this problem. The technology we have today just keeps >> > making >> > them look bad. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:18 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: Oh well.... >> > >> > I just saw the ball that was called a strike on Papi in the 9th. That >> > had to >> > be the worst strike call I have ever seen. >> > >> > >> > >> > Dan D >> > Central NJ USA >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:49:21 PM >> > Subject: Re: Oh well.... >> > >> > Man, there was some really, really terrible strike calls out there >> > today. >> > Balls that were 18 inches off the plate. Exhibit A in the case for using >> > computers to call balls and strikes. >> > >> > Steve O >> > >> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > ...a 7-3 homestand ain't half bad. 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