Normally, I agree with you. But Bobby V has lost us no fewer than three games with Grady-Little-esque pitching non-moves. I point to Cook as the most egregious example.
On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Dan DiBiase wrote: > I wasn't thrilled about the hiring initially, but neither was I terribly > excited about any of the other candidates that were finalists. Dave Sveum? > Gene Lamont? But I suspect I felt the same about Tito in 2003. > > I did change my opinion once Bobby V got going. Seems like he said and did > all of the right things and brought a lot of energy and enthusiasm > to the job. It seems from the outside looking in, that maybe some of that > has been lost since the season started, for some reason. I guess maybe > losing would do that, but he just seems beat up at this point. But we are > stuck with him at this point, probably for next year as well, since it would > require Larry L admitting he was wrong to get rid of him, and I think we > all know that Cherington doesn't have the juice to do anything about it. > > But like everything else, the manager doesn't pitch, catch or hit, so > ultimately, it's on the players. If they need a manager to motivate them to > play, then > we have a larger issue. > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');>> > *To:* "[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>" > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:29 AM > *Subject:* Re: What happened to Red Sox decision making? > > That's a really good point. > > I think the Sox are letting the tail wag the dog. > > The NFL specifically told Robert Kraft not to hire Bill Belichick becaues > Belichick was lousy in front of the media. They even sent him videos of > Belichick press conferences saying "Do you want this guy representing your > team?" > > But Kraft knows what' s important. You win and then it doesn't matter > what you say to the press. "After you win 20 in the show, you can let the > fungus grow all over your shower shoes and the press will say you're > colorful." > > Same with Belichick. > > There is no amount of media savvy (if that's what Valentine has) that will > save him from a losing season. Dissing his playiers in public is not > going to help either. > > Ray > > > On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Tom Salemi wrote: > > A few things bugged me about Bobby Valentine. First, the guy is an > insufferable bore, at least that's his public persona. Never been a fan > (though he wasn't a bad analyst.) > > But the real problem I had was he was out of MLB for 10 years. A lot of > managers were hired over those 10 years and he rarely drew a sniff. This > wasn't Bill Cowher who is merely waiting for the right opportunity. This > guy was out there and never identified as a finalist for any post. > > I think that says something. > > We were one of the premiere franchises in baseball. We could have done > better. > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Ray Daniel Salemi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I would be find with Luccino taking ALL the power if they were making good > decisions. > > On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Dan DiBiase wrote: > > FA signings are a crap-shoot at the best of times. Theo is on the hook for > all of these except Valentine and Bailey (which, in all fairness, > can't be judged an early failure yet). And at the time, I think they issue > with the others was simply the size of the contracts, not bringing > the player to Boston per se.... But I do think that Lucchino is taking > advantage of the power vacuum and is much more involved - see: > Valentine, Bobby. But I also think it is true the between NASCAR and > Liverpool, John Henry is certainly distracted. And his wife is distracting > as well, I am sure..... The FO is definitely in a bit of a mess right now > for sure. > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:09 AM > *Subject:* What happened to Red Sox decision making? > > The Debacle of Bobby Valentine is just the latest in a series of bad > Red Sox decisions that have led us to the cellar: Dice-K, Lackey, > Crawford, Bailey, and Valentine all represent serious errors. > > I wonder what happened. Did Evil Larry gain too much power? Was Theo > just a flash in the pan? 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