Yeah, I never subscribed to the notion that he can't play here.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, with Crawford, I assume you mean the 'real' Carl Crawford, not the > version we got here. Gomes is better than what we > got from Crawford. But certainly, Crawford is more talented. Just that we > didn't see it. > > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2012 12:06 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Sox get Dempster > > And I meant Becket with Dice-K. Gotta proof next time. > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Catching correction - Ross, not Davis. > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Angst? I see it as commentary. > > I'm not going to predict an outcome until the Sox are finished with their > off season moves. It'd be silly to say how they're going to finish. > Ellsbury could still be dealt. The Sox might use this flexibility to secure > some cheap young talent, at least that's the plan. > > My opinions on the deal thus far have been pretty clear. > > Happy with the Papi deal. > > Okay with Napoli (if it the deal closes, which it should.) > > Not really sure what to make about Vittorino. I hear conflicting reports > as to his health and diminishing skills. Put a gun to my head and I think > the Sox overpaid by a bit, but keeping an open mind. > > Dempster - I don't want to sound like a negative nanny but I think this > will be a disaster. National league pitchers haven't fared well here - I'm > thinking Smoltz at the end of his career, (and drawing a blank on the > pitcher that same year that bombed her but excelled in St. Louis), Joel > Pineiro, etc. I don't like they're paying $13 million for a warm body, but > people seemed satisfied with the deal because we've become so obsessed with > length of deals. > > But if we're to look at the Sox.... > > Catcher - Offense might be a bit better with Davis Salty > First Base - I think Napoli is a downgrade from Gonzalez. > SEcond base - same > 3B - I hope Middlebrooks delivers. Not willing to say he's going to > perform better than Youk. > SS - Who knows. > LF - Crawford was a talent and certainly better than Jonny Gomes. > CF - Ellsbury should have a better year. > RF - Vittorino vs. Ross - I'll give V the upgrade. > > Rotation - Might be better with Lackey and Dempster than with Beckett and > Dempster. WOuld like to see another deal. Also hope Doubront doesn't suffer > from a sophomore slump. > > Bullpen - Apparently, the Sox offered Bailey to Toronto for Farrell and we > declined. Safe to say I'm concerned about the closer positon. Happy with > the middle reliever they signed. Hope Aceves can pull his head out of his > ass. > > > At this point, I'd say this team is slightly inferior to last team. > Toronto should be better. I still like the Rays even without Shields though > they're pitching is young. Not really sure what to make about the Yanks or > the O's, but the former seems to pull things together. > > That's the landscape as I see it. > > Bottom line, the fan focus on length of deal is humorous. The Sox have the > money and should use it to pay for actual talent rather than hoping to win > with scratch ticket talent. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > So this is simple angst? You have no thoughts on how the Sox will do > because of the move? > > My prediction is that they'll finish the season with a higher winning > percentage than they had when they did the deal. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Where have I made a prediction? > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > You seem to be making some prediction about the Sox chances for success > since you don't agree with last year's plan of creating financial > flexibility. > > So what is that prediction? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > I can't really see one that I'd be comfortable with. I won't bet against > the Sox success. > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > I see a wager in the works. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh, it's gonna be a lively Christmas dinner discussion this year .... :) > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm not interested in blockbuster players anymore. I think it's too many > eggs in one basket. > > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Nick Cafardo writes that the Sox should have chased Josh Hamilton. That, > of course, means they did the right thing passing him up. > > > http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/12/sox_should_have.html > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> > *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:41 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Sox get Dempster > > He meets present Sox criteria: > > 1. Warm body. > 2. Short-term deal. > 3. No draft-pick compensation. > > I'm not sold on the plan, but we can't say they don't have one. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:20 PM > *Subject:* Re: Sox get Dempster > > Meh. > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > From EEI art > > One major league source suggested that the Sox should -- and likely do -- > have “modest expectations” for the veteran, describing him as the best > option available on a relatively short-term deal that permits the team to > minimize risk, rather than a true impact starter who can transform a > rotation. > > “He’ll carve up weaker lineups and will be a positive clubhouse guy,” said > the source. “[But it's] hard to expect much against the deeper lineups and > I don’t think [the Sox] do.” > > > Sounds about right. I guess $13m doesn't get you what it once did. > > I guess he's making $2m less than Beckett > > ERA WHIP SO/9 > Becket 4.65 1.327 7 > Demps 3.85 1.319 8.7 > > > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > Not crazy about the Dempster signing. Basically career NL pitcher who was > rocked last year in the AL (except when > he pitched against us.............). > > Angels be crazy. > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:28 PM > *Subject:* Sox get Dempster > > two years at $26.5 million ($13m per again) > > Josh Hamilton goes to Angels for 5 years/$125m. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > 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