Thanks. Sounds like a deal then huh? The shelf thing sounds like a good
idea. My concern is making it look as nice as possible, or the wifee wont go
for it. My question on the shelf idea is does that then suspend totally
above the top of the tank? If that is so, that means I will have a water
line going across the top of the tank. I do like the idea of having the
lights above the tank for heat issues though. It does have a canopy on it
right now. It is heavy (the stand and canopy are made of oak) and it is
short (that's why I wouldn't be able to use it, couldn't fit MHs on it, even
now the VHOS he has on, it gets a ton of salt creep from water splash) so I
don't know if I could utilize it or not. Do you by any chance have a pic of
the shelf system so I can have a visual? Not that I question the looks, but
would like to see how it is built.

My thoughts on the whole pump thing is... I already have an Iwaki 100 RLT. I
would probably use that to run my skimmer a couple of returns in the 70
gallon and then a few returns in the 170. Then, I would use my mag 2400  and
drill 3 surge returns on the bottom of the tank as well as 2 in the lower
back of the tank and 2 in the upper back, the split all of them with some
locline. The Iwaki would push a fair amount of water through the 170 while
proving a soft linear current in the 70, then the mag would really create a
nice surge effect if allowed to run full blast. I would run that on a random
current with my Aquatroller. I would run my chiller with an additional mag
1200, which would return directly to the sump. Hopefully, with that much
water, the chiller will not have to be used, because the chiller will have a
tough time cooling that much water.

Next concern is lights. There are 4 vhos spanning the length of the tank. I
have 2 175 watt MHs I would transfer over. I would leave the 4 vhos on the
70 for the anemone. I think I will probably need to add another 250 watt mh.
Maybe go with the 175 watters on the ends, the 250 in the middle and then
the VHOs. That would give me 6 watts per gallon on the 170. Not a ton, but I
think enough.

So, buffing it out is not to tough huh? Great. That makes me fell better.
Any tips???

Thanks again!
Shane C.

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:40 PM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re: Used tank...

        Hi, Shane. Hoping to encourage you to do the deal. 170 gallons is a
lot of 
        tank, especially connected to your 70 gallon. Seems like a very
interesting 
        set-up. If the 170 is rectangular, you can simply build a shelf over
it and 
        mount the lights on the underside of the shelf. You can place light
things 
        for storage on top and put a nice looking trim around it for a more 
        professional look. You can do this by buying premachined boards at
Home Depot 
        and mounting them on some inexpensive shelf brackets. The whole
project can 
        be done really well for under $100. You would need a good return
pump and for 
        a system that size an Iwaki WMD40XRLT would work very well. These
are 
        available online for around $160 plus shipping and will literally
run 
        forever. You can, of course, hard plum the entire system easily with
sched. 
        40 PVC. I have about 500 gallons of systems on the second floor of
our house. 
        The weight is not a problem as long as we don't add waterbeds! You
should try 
        to put your tanks perpendicular to floor joists. Electrical supply
is more of 
        a concern. You can very easily polish out the majority of defects in
the 
        plexi by yourself for much less than $200. Go for it! HTH. 
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