WOW, the group's been awfully quiet on this.  Ok, I'll take the fall here.

I've seen this request often (as a programmer, web-guy, IT, more), and even
more often, it falters and goes away.

To answer this, here are the questions to consider:

#1:  why would someone have this request?
#2:  are ALL your basis covered: admin, legal, marketing & sales, support?
#3:  once you've done this, what is the value proposition to your
programmer?  what are all the things u are looking for?
#4:  what is the market value for these services and why can't u afford it?
#5:  if the person is going to defer their compensation, what's their
upside? is it fair? they are foregoing compensation and benefits for doing
the work with someone else..
#6:  what's the real upside-/ risk to the person: is it worth the upside?
#7:  what happens if the biz fails not due to that programmer -person?
#8:  if the compensation was reversed, i.e u were paid THAT offer for THAT
much work, would you take it?

If you come from a point of fairness, generally it'll work.  Don't
understimate your programmer, and don't try to get something for nothing.

Too often biz "idea-generators" will come from a point of view "oh this idea
is so unique.. NO ONE has done it..." chances are .. its been done about a
dozen times.. and about a dozen people are doing it at this time.

The idea isn't the money, the execution is... that's why a strong executive
team is what is always looked for.

if you are ONE person telling a programmer that "build-it and the customers
will come" you are not reliable.. and the programmer is risking all..
GENERALLY (not always)..  if you have a team, and some measure of success..
then there's a better position of reliability.  The programmer's goal and
deliverables are tangible.. but as an "idea-person" your deliverables aren't
defined.. how do u build a business?

Finally, an NDA is about the most absurd thing in the world, if u are a
startup u do NOT have the litigation $ to get someone on an NDA..  its
MOSTLY the execution of the idea that will create a market winner..

This would be a starting point for a discussion.. after this.. its all
fair-game and there's no limits to the ways things can/will work out.

Regards

Prashant

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Greeeenr <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have and have had some great ideas. Most have gone on to be
> developed by others and bought by bigger companies.
> My frustration ,not being a programmer, is that many developers are
> not as qualified as they think or pretend to be.
> Many web developing companies are just looking for large corporate
> dollars and don't seem to put realestic timelines or bugets together.
> Having the Associations and sales experience I would like to partner
> with a web designer/designors and create these projects with an exit
> stradegy in place to sell and move on.
> I would appreciatte any ideas of how to
> -Partner fairly and not lose your idea
> - ensure I am involved with someone who can  deliver a complete
> product
> - is there a form for this type of arrangement ?
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