Oh.. 2 more things to add: 1. Form for this arrangement: no it'd have to be a custom contract 2. Exit strategy: This should be pre-negotiated and written in on the contract in my recommendation to avoid conflict later. 3. Guarantee delivery: Your compensation should be against benchmarks and delivery, this is the only way to have a "contractor" relationship of any guarantee. Just as, as a biz-person you don't want to trust someone and pay them up-front, a programmer too doesn't want to do all the work for free and get ripped off.. The risk unfortunately has proven to be both ways. so that relationship of trust needs to be built over time.
Good luck on your venture, Regards Prashant CEO, SP MyOrgWorks <http://www.myorgworks.com> 512.917.2308 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Prashant Sheth <[email protected]>wrote: > WOW, the group's been awfully quiet on this. Ok, I'll take the fall here. > > I've seen this request often (as a programmer, web-guy, IT, more), and even > more often, it falters and goes away. > > To answer this, here are the questions to consider: > > #1: why would someone have this request? > #2: are ALL your basis covered: admin, legal, marketing & sales, support? > #3: once you've done this, what is the value proposition to your > programmer? what are all the things u are looking for? > #4: what is the market value for these services and why can't u afford it? > #5: if the person is going to defer their compensation, what's their > upside? is it fair? they are foregoing compensation and benefits for doing > the work with someone else.. > #6: what's the real upside-/ risk to the person: is it worth the upside? > #7: what happens if the biz fails not due to that programmer -person? > #8: if the compensation was reversed, i.e u were paid THAT offer for THAT > much work, would you take it? > > If you come from a point of fairness, generally it'll work. Don't > understimate your programmer, and don't try to get something for nothing. > > Too often biz "idea-generators" will come from a point of view "oh this > idea is so unique.. NO ONE has done it..." chances are .. its been done > about a dozen times.. and about a dozen people are doing it at this time. > > The idea isn't the money, the execution is... that's why a strong executive > team is what is always looked for. > > if you are ONE person telling a programmer that "build-it and the customers > will come" you are not reliable.. and the programmer is risking all.. > GENERALLY (not always).. if you have a team, and some measure of success.. > then there's a better position of reliability. The programmer's goal and > deliverables are tangible.. but as an "idea-person" your deliverables aren't > defined.. how do u build a business? > > Finally, an NDA is about the most absurd thing in the world, if u are a > startup u do NOT have the litigation $ to get someone on an NDA.. its > MOSTLY the execution of the idea that will create a market winner.. > > This would be a starting point for a discussion.. after this.. its all > fair-game and there's no limits to the ways things can/will work out. > > Regards > > Prashant > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Greeeenr <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have and have had some great ideas. Most have gone on to be >> developed by others and bought by bigger companies. >> My frustration ,not being a programmer, is that many developers are >> not as qualified as they think or pretend to be. >> Many web developing companies are just looking for large corporate >> dollars and don't seem to put realestic timelines or bugets together. >> Having the Associations and sales experience I would like to partner >> with a web designer/designors and create these projects with an exit >> stradegy in place to sell and move on. >> I would appreciatte any ideas of how to >> -Partner fairly and not lose your idea >> - ensure I am involved with someone who can deliver a complete >> product >> - is there a form for this type of arrangement ? >> >> -- >> Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Refresh Austin" group. >> >> [ Posting ] >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy >> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. >> >> [ Unsubscribe ] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> [ More Info ] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin >> > > -- Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Refresh Austin" group. [ Posting ] To post to this group, send email to [email protected] Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy We do not accept job posts from recruiters. [ Unsubscribe ] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] [ More Info ] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin
