I am sorry but I don't understand. Who's marketing positin. Did you mean to respond to a different discusion.
On May 27, 5:42 pm, PJ Christie <[email protected]> wrote: > It's a marketing position, not a developers position. There were many > problems that arose: > > 1. everytime I asked about a person that came up in the history, that > person was let go following a dispute and I couldn't ask them > questions. > > 2. their google webmaster account indicated they were doing business > primarily in Thailand for no apparent reason, and last time I checked, > even though I updated it, it still was caching that way. So there is > no SEO finding the pages tagged as Thailand. > > 3. the affiliate marketing program had not in one and a half years, > driven a single click or sale. And the material looked good. > > 4. they didn't have e-mails in a good list for e-mail marketing, and > wouldn't provide them to me. > > 5. I couldn't really see that the site could process a payment in any case > > 6. they were on a subversion system that was a pain in my ass. For no money. > > Interested? > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Prashant Sheth > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mmm monetized niche!!! Is it still available n open? > > > Regards, > > > Prashant > > 512.917.2308 > > - sent from my iPhone please excuse the brevity > > > On May 26, 2011, at 4:04 PM, PJ Christie <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I went through a test period with a guy in Dallas who had a not very > >> good looking site in a very lucrative niche, one that I knew pretty > >> well. My skills were pretty well aligned with his needs and we set up > >> something that sounded fair. > > >> For no cash, I was offered a gradually larger percentage of the > >> business to max out at 7%. > >> My commitment was established at 8 - 10 hours per week. > >> I received a sliding scale of money based on amount of revenue over an > >> established baseline. > > >> He had strengths. The website was built already and he had good money > >> behind him up to that point. > > >> In negotiating, he refused my request to guarantee that the shares > >> would not be diluted. The contract had a schedule of milestones that > >> could not be met within my available time. 3 days after I signed the > >> contract he pulled the one developer off the project to build > >> something like Facebook from scratch. The deeper I dug the more doubts > >> I had that the product would work and that he placed a premium on the > >> customer relationship. All my suggestions on ways to monetize the site > >> he rejected. > > >> So I bailed 3 weeks in. I was glad for the experience and I probably > >> learned more from the failure than if it had succeeded. > > >> PJ Christie > >>http://www.linkedin.com/in/pjchristie/ > > >> 512-577-4059 > >> blog - pjchristie.com > >> twitter - @growyourbase > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Prashant Sheth > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> WOW, the group's been awfully quiet on this. Ok, I'll take the fall here. > >>> I've seen this request often (as a programmer, web-guy, IT, more), and > >>> even > >>> more often, it falters and goes away. > >>> To answer this, here are the questions to consider: > >>> #1: why would someone have this request? > >>> #2: are ALL your basis covered: admin, legal, marketing & sales, support? > >>> #3: once you've done this, what is the value proposition to your > >>> programmer? what are all the things u are looking for? > >>> #4: what is the market value for these services and why can't u afford > >>> it? > >>> #5: if the person is going to defer their compensation, what's their > >>> upside? is it fair? they are foregoing compensation and benefits for doing > >>> the work with someone else.. > >>> #6: what's the real upside-/ risk to the person: is it worth the upside? > >>> #7: what happens if the biz fails not due to that programmer -person? > >>> #8: if the compensation was reversed, i.e u were paid THAT offer for THAT > >>> much work, would you take it? > >>> If you come from a point of fairness, generally it'll work. Don't > >>> understimate your programmer, and don't try to get something for nothing. > >>> Too often biz "idea-generators" will come from a point of view "oh this > >>> idea > >>> is so unique.. NO ONE has done it..." chances are .. its been done about a > >>> dozen times.. and about a dozen people are doing it at this time. > >>> The idea isn't the money, the execution is... that's why a strong > >>> executive > >>> team is what is always looked for. > >>> if you are ONE person telling a programmer that "build-it and the > >>> customers > >>> will come" you are not reliable.. and the programmer is risking all.. > >>> GENERALLY (not always).. if you have a team, and some measure of > >>> success.. > >>> then there's a better position of reliability. The programmer's goal and > >>> deliverables are tangible.. but as an "idea-person" your deliverables > >>> aren't > >>> defined.. how do u build a business? > >>> Finally, an NDA is about the most absurd thing in the world, if u are a > >>> startup u do NOT have the litigation $ to get someone on an NDA.. its > >>> MOSTLY the execution of the idea that will create a market winner.. > >>> This would be a starting point for a discussion.. after this.. its all > >>> fair-game and there's no limits to the ways things can/will work out. > >>> Regards > >>> Prashant > > >>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Greeeenr <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> I have and have had some great ideas. Most have gone on to be > >>>> developed by others and bought by bigger companies. > >>>> My frustration ,not being a programmer, is that many developers are > >>>> not as qualified as they think or pretend to be. > >>>> Many web developing companies are just looking for large corporate > >>>> dollars and don't seem to put realestic timelines or bugets together. > >>>> Having the Associations and sales experience I would like to partner > >>>> with a web designer/designors and create these projects with an exit > >>>> stradegy in place to sell and move on. > >>>> I would appreciatte any ideas of how to > >>>> -Partner fairly and not lose your idea > >>>> - ensure I am involved with someone who can deliver a complete > >>>> product > >>>> - is there a form for this type of arrangement ? > > >>>> -- > >>>> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>>> "Refresh Austin" group. > > >>>> [ Posting ] > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >>>> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > >>>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > >>>> [ Unsubscribe ] > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> [ More Info ] > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > >>> -- > >>> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Refresh Austin" group. > > >>> [ Posting ] > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >>> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > >>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > >>> [ Unsubscribe ] > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected] > > >>> [ More Info ] > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > >> -- > >> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Refresh Austin" group. > > >> [ Posting ] > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > >> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > >> [ Unsubscribe ] > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] > > >> [ More Info ] > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > > -- > > Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Refresh Austin" group. > > > [ Posting ] > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > > We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > > [ Unsubscribe ] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > [ More Info ] > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Refresh Austin" group. 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