It's a marketing position, not a developers position. There were many problems that arose:
1. everytime I asked about a person that came up in the history, that person was let go following a dispute and I couldn't ask them questions. 2. their google webmaster account indicated they were doing business primarily in Thailand for no apparent reason, and last time I checked, even though I updated it, it still was caching that way. So there is no SEO finding the pages tagged as Thailand. 3. the affiliate marketing program had not in one and a half years, driven a single click or sale. And the material looked good. 4. they didn't have e-mails in a good list for e-mail marketing, and wouldn't provide them to me. 5. I couldn't really see that the site could process a payment in any case 6. they were on a subversion system that was a pain in my ass. For no money. Interested? On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Prashant Sheth <[email protected]> wrote: > Mmm monetized niche!!! Is it still available n open? > > Regards, > > Prashant > 512.917.2308 > - sent from my iPhone please excuse the brevity > > > On May 26, 2011, at 4:04 PM, PJ Christie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I went through a test period with a guy in Dallas who had a not very >> good looking site in a very lucrative niche, one that I knew pretty >> well. My skills were pretty well aligned with his needs and we set up >> something that sounded fair. >> >> For no cash, I was offered a gradually larger percentage of the >> business to max out at 7%. >> My commitment was established at 8 - 10 hours per week. >> I received a sliding scale of money based on amount of revenue over an >> established baseline. >> >> He had strengths. The website was built already and he had good money >> behind him up to that point. >> >> In negotiating, he refused my request to guarantee that the shares >> would not be diluted. The contract had a schedule of milestones that >> could not be met within my available time. 3 days after I signed the >> contract he pulled the one developer off the project to build >> something like Facebook from scratch. The deeper I dug the more doubts >> I had that the product would work and that he placed a premium on the >> customer relationship. All my suggestions on ways to monetize the site >> he rejected. >> >> So I bailed 3 weeks in. I was glad for the experience and I probably >> learned more from the failure than if it had succeeded. >> >> PJ Christie >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/pjchristie/ >> >> 512-577-4059 >> blog - pjchristie.com >> twitter - @growyourbase >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Prashant Sheth >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> WOW, the group's been awfully quiet on this. Ok, I'll take the fall here. >>> I've seen this request often (as a programmer, web-guy, IT, more), and even >>> more often, it falters and goes away. >>> To answer this, here are the questions to consider: >>> #1: why would someone have this request? >>> #2: are ALL your basis covered: admin, legal, marketing & sales, support? >>> #3: once you've done this, what is the value proposition to your >>> programmer? what are all the things u are looking for? >>> #4: what is the market value for these services and why can't u afford it? >>> #5: if the person is going to defer their compensation, what's their >>> upside? is it fair? they are foregoing compensation and benefits for doing >>> the work with someone else.. >>> #6: what's the real upside-/ risk to the person: is it worth the upside? >>> #7: what happens if the biz fails not due to that programmer -person? >>> #8: if the compensation was reversed, i.e u were paid THAT offer for THAT >>> much work, would you take it? >>> If you come from a point of fairness, generally it'll work. Don't >>> understimate your programmer, and don't try to get something for nothing. >>> Too often biz "idea-generators" will come from a point of view "oh this idea >>> is so unique.. NO ONE has done it..." chances are .. its been done about a >>> dozen times.. and about a dozen people are doing it at this time. >>> The idea isn't the money, the execution is... that's why a strong executive >>> team is what is always looked for. >>> if you are ONE person telling a programmer that "build-it and the customers >>> will come" you are not reliable.. and the programmer is risking all.. >>> GENERALLY (not always).. if you have a team, and some measure of success.. >>> then there's a better position of reliability. The programmer's goal and >>> deliverables are tangible.. but as an "idea-person" your deliverables aren't >>> defined.. how do u build a business? >>> Finally, an NDA is about the most absurd thing in the world, if u are a >>> startup u do NOT have the litigation $ to get someone on an NDA.. its >>> MOSTLY the execution of the idea that will create a market winner.. >>> This would be a starting point for a discussion.. after this.. its all >>> fair-game and there's no limits to the ways things can/will work out. >>> Regards >>> Prashant >>> >>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Greeeenr <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have and have had some great ideas. Most have gone on to be >>>> developed by others and bought by bigger companies. >>>> My frustration ,not being a programmer, is that many developers are >>>> not as qualified as they think or pretend to be. >>>> Many web developing companies are just looking for large corporate >>>> dollars and don't seem to put realestic timelines or bugets together. >>>> Having the Associations and sales experience I would like to partner >>>> with a web designer/designors and create these projects with an exit >>>> stradegy in place to sell and move on. >>>> I would appreciatte any ideas of how to >>>> -Partner fairly and not lose your idea >>>> - ensure I am involved with someone who can deliver a complete >>>> product >>>> - is there a form for this type of arrangement ? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Refresh Austin" group. >>>> >>>> [ Posting ] >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>> Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy >>>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. >>>> >>>> [ Unsubscribe ] >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> [ More Info ] >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin >>> >>> -- >>> Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Refresh Austin" group. >>> >>> [ Posting ] >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy >>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. >>> >>> [ Unsubscribe ] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> [ More Info ] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin >>> >> >> -- >> Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Refresh Austin" group. >> >> [ Posting ] >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy >> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. >> >> [ Unsubscribe ] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> [ More Info ] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > -- > Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Refresh Austin" group. > > [ Posting ] > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > [ Unsubscribe ] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > [ More Info ] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > -- Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Refresh Austin" group. 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