"grunting in their ape-like speech..."

> It doesn't matter if no language period is really like that, it's just a
fucking 
description of a fantasy language in a fantasy story...<

It's also imagery and mood.  "...grunting in their ape-like speech..." makes
his opponents sound more savage and intimidating, and also dehumanizes them
somewhat for the eventual kill. I'm not defending Howard's racism (or
non-racism, whatever the case may be) in anything more than this sentence...
But I think this sentence is much more of an obvious author's device than an
intended slur on the darker races. 

Shane Guy


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> Gary Romeo writes:
> >like the guttural tongue of an ape.  De Camp went on
> >to explain how no African language is really anything
> >ape-like.

> Must be referring to this paragraph:
>
>     But they attempted no reprisal, nor did they accept Conan's urgent
> invitation to approach within reach of the bloody chain in his hand.
> Presently, grunting in their ape-like speech,

There goes de Camp again, popping off instead of fantasizing. It doesn't
matter if no language period is really like that, it's just a fucking
description of a fantasy language in a fantasy story.. It is not a racial
slur, unless you want to think that. All you have here is people who happen
to be black who have a language that has grunts and barks and whatever else
and sounds similar to an ape. I've heard people who sound like dogs, and
others that sound like snakes. So what. Don't read in what isn't there.

Scotty Henderson

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