If my life is in danger, I am going to use any frequency that I have to get 
help. I don't care if it is a remote broadcast link frequency for a radio 
station! But that's me.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "La Rue Communications" 
<laruec...@...> wrote:
>
> I forgot to add something, kind of crucial to my point at the end back 
> there..... if my life was in jeopardy then. Is there a frequency that Law 
> Enforcement monitors for non emergency situations? For the public sector? Or 
> would it be any officer who knows how to build their own scanners? Let me 
> reclarify - if I was in an accident, and my radio was in reach over my cell 
> (i.e. my cell was in my pocket, or got knocked under the seat), and I had a 
> life threatening injury, what kind of response would that evoke?
> 
> John Hymes
> La Rue Communications
> 10 S. Aurora Street
> Stockton, CA 95202
> http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Maire-Radios 
>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:30 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
> 
> 
>     
> 
>   you should not even think of doing that.
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: La Rue Communications 
>     To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>     Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:10 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
> 
> 
>       
> 
>     So if I had a UHF Saber, and programmed it to a Police frequency for the 
> purposes of TX EMERGENCY info only like 911, then its required to have 
> authorization? What if I was involved in a wreck and my radio was the only 
> thing in reach over my cell?
> 
>     John Hymes
>     La Rue Communications
>     10 S. Aurora Street
>     Stockton, CA 95202
>     http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: kd6aaj 
>       To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>       Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58 AM
>       Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
> 
> 
>         
> 
> 
>       Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you 
> even have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell 
> radios preprogrammed with those freqs.
> 
>       and there is an EXCEPTION:
> 
>       Title 47: Telecommunication
>       PART 90-PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES
>       Subpart N-Operating Requirements
> 
>       § 90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation.
>       (a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not 
> accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly 
> authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part 
> authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing 
> unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be 
> construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station 
> licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including 
> all transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation 
> of those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the 
> licenses of those stations.
> 
>       (b) Except for frequencies used in accordance with §90.417, no person 
> shall program into a transmitter frequencies for which the licensee using the 
> transmitter is not authorized.
> 
>       and:
> 
>       § 90.417 Interstation communication.
>       top 
>       (a) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other 
> station without restriction as to type, service, or licensee when the 
> communications involved relate directly to the imminent safety-of-life or 
> property.
> 
>       (b) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other 
> station licensed under this part, with U.S. Government stations, and with 
> foreign stations, in connection with mutual activities, provided that where 
> the communication involves foreign stations prior approval of the Commission 
> must be obtained, and such communication must be permitted by the government 
> that authorizes the foreign station. Communications by Public Safety Pool 
> eligibles with foreign stations will be approved only to be conducted in 
> accordance with Article 5 of the Inter-American Radio Agreement, Washington, 
> DC, 1949, the provisions of which are set forth in §90.20(b). 
> 
>       [43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 62 FR 18933, Apr. 17, 1997]
> 
>       -------------------------------end of CFR regs---------------
> 
>       So, what's to stop someone from saying they programmed a freq for 
> emergency use only? Why else have the exception, unless you are expected to 
> have an "unauthorized" frequency programed in your radio?
> 
>       So, the exception (90.417) clearly makes 90.427 un-enforceable UNLESS 
> you can prove intent to operate on the "unauthorized" frequency for 
> NON-emergency communications. The school was operating on the frequency, but 
> they don't say what kind of communication was involved.
> 
>       --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl <wd8chl@> wrote:
>       >
>       > In February, a large two-way radio dealer was issued a Notice Of 
>       > Violation (NOV) by the FCC for adding a frequency into radios that 
> the 
>       > customer was not licensed for. The Notice stated that Section 
> 90.427(b) 
>       > prohibits programming into a transmitter frequencies the licensee 
> using 
>       > the transmitter is not authorized for.
>       > 
>       > Make sure your customers are licensed for the frequencies you put in 
>       > radios you sell!
>       > 
>       > Information from Mission Critical Magazine, May 2010. FCC enforcement 
>       > case NOV 201032900008.
>       > ---------------------
>       > Jim Barbour
>       > Transcore
>       >
>


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