Hi Leo, all,
I can’t support the document at this stage, because the points I mention. Possibly they can be accommodated and then I will be happy to support. To state it clearly: Note that my disagreement with the discrimination at the participation of the TF is no a blocking to my support position. On this regards I’m still unable to find the discussion of that participation in the minutes/mail archive, so that needs to be clarified. I will try to re-read all the mail archive today, not just because this, but also in case any of my objections is related to the TF discussions and I could have a different perspective or point to something else. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 29/3/21 10:32, "ripe-list en nombre de Leo Vegoda" <[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió: Dear RIPE Community, I'd like to thank everyone who has already commented on this draft update to the Code of Conduct so far. I have been keeping track of the comments so the TF has a good idea of what changes we need to make to the draft. I've tabulated them below and it would be good if people could let me know if I have misunderstood what they meant. Also, some people have commented but not stated if they support the daft as is, or would support the draft with a minor change. I've placed a question mark next to names where I'm not sure what a person's position is. It would be great if you could clarify your position. Many thanks, Leo Vegoda On behalf of the RIPE Code of Conduct TF CommenterSupportComment or Delta Eileen Gallagher✓Add: acknowledgments of earlier work done by others when presenting new workAdd: thanking people for their contribution as an example of positive behaviourComment: RIPE NCC might want to incorporate the CoC into contracts with venues Randy Bush✓Keep the CoC tight Vesna Manojlovic✓Add: definition of the CoC TeamAdd: call to actionNit: Add date and authorsNit: Change “for more than quarter of a century” to “since 1989”Nit: make the URL ripe.net/cocNit: Rename "Behaviour" title to "Inclusive Behaviour" or another alternativeNit: "people protected" -> remove bullet points, make it a CSV line of text Gert Doering✓— Maximilian Wilhelm✓— Daniel Karrenberg✓Focus more on principles and make it even clearer that the lists are examples and not comprehensiveDo not give the PC a special role Nit: Change “national laws” to “laws”Nit: ONly talk about roles and organisations in the community in general termsStated that the obligation to report crimes is very limited JORDI PALET MARTINEZ?Nit: Number all sectionsRationale must balance inclusivity against freedom of speech and cultural differencesInclude all ways of communicating over the InternetDoes not understand why the PC needs to be consultedDoes contracted workers include subcontractors?Wants the RIPE NCC staff to always intermediate if a report is made to the police and understands that there could be liability if people know of an incident and do not report itAdd protection for those who do not speak English as a first languageDoes not think "calling people names" is clear for non-native speakersRephrase “Deliberately outing private details about someone without their consent”Rephrase “Pushing someone to drink or take drugs”Add a prohibition against spamForbid using language a non-native speaker might misunderstandSimilarly, the CoC Team should accommodate cultural differencesWants the process in the same document Sasha Romijn?Question about how the team would determine if an act should be reported to the police and a preference for that to be controlled by the subject of the act Jim Reid?Supports Sasha on police report issue Sander Steffann?Supports Sasha on police report issue Gergana Petrova?Clarification on making a police reportEchoes the question about the role of the PC (see above) Rob Evans?Trusted Contacts training gave him the understanding that there is no obligation to make police reports. Trusted Contacts are confidential contacts Fearghas Mckay?Confidentiality and control are important in helping people have the confidence to make a report ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
