jlt1947 wrote: > the following discussion mostly applies to Classical Music libraries > (FLAC, DSD, MP3) and SORT type tags...... > > Hello, > > this seems to be the place (newbie here) for sharing experience, and > wondering about the intricacies of name tag sorts in LMS - Here's my > experience with Classical album tracks: usually 1 composer, but several > Album Artists (e.g. 1 soloist + 1 conductor + 1 orchestra, or a duet, > trio, etc.....). > > starting from a situation where all composer and artist names in tags > had been recorded as "<First> <Last>" in my music library, and wishing > to have LMS display them in alphabetical order of LAST names first, > here's what I did, half unsuccessfully I must say: > > for COMPOSERS(usually 1 per track): > I added a COMPOSERSORT tag (tool: Foobar2000, Mp3tag or both together, > Foobar has a nice library management, Mp3tag has a bettter manual > tagging interface), and populated that tag with "<Last>, <First>" names. > This produced a totally satisfying result in the LMS GUI (or > Squeezelite-X, or Orange Squeeze and the like), with the proviso that > the new COMPOSER list is sorted by last names BUT still displayed (as > originally recorded) as "<First> <Last>" names. Not bad, just takes > getting used to looking at the right end of each line, but it's still > rather pleasant to have these names listed as they usually appear > everywhere (<First> <Last>), rather than as some classroom listing > (<Last>, <First>). > > Note: in some instances, there may be 2 composers per track (e.g. > Bach/Busoni or Beethoven/Liszt, or Mussorgsky/Ravel, etc....) - I have > found that if I enter 2 names in the COMPOSERSORT field (with the > adequate separator in between), LMS gets lost and doesn't know how to > correctly "link" the "<First> <Last>" items in the COMPOSER field to the > corresponding "<Last>, <First>" names in the COMPOSERSORT field; so the > result is inconsistent with the overall composer sort, names appear > wherever they can ! Really too bad ! Yet such instances are > rare....... (not a big decision to keep the 1 composer that was the more > "meaningful" of the 2.) > > for ALBUM ARTISTS: > based on the decent result of the Composer proceduree above, I did the > same thing with Album Artists, using the ALBUMARTISTSORT tag. I > discovered soon enough that DSD tracks are mishandled by both Foobar and > Mp3tag (can't handle more than 1 artist in the tag), but the worst was > that LMS was totally mishandling even FLAC tracks which contained > multiple Album Artists (same issue as multiple composers above). THe > result was a total mess ! I had to delete all the ALBUMARTISTSORT fields > I had painstakingly created...... > > So I wonder why there isn't an adequate syntax in tag management which > would unambiguously associate pairs of names, or "sets" of names more > generally....... Also, I wonder if maybe I should brutally update all > the artist and composer names in the library to put them in the "<Last>, > <First>" format, which would settle the matter..... > > Your comments and suggestions arre most welcome !
I do the same; albumartistsort, composersort and I have also added conductorsort. Everything works as expected (also with dsd and multiple albumartists). I am using mp3tag and use \\ as a separator. I do not have multiple composers for 1 track, so do not know about that. I always thought that LMS uses the sort tag if it is present in 1 of your files. Is it possible to leave the composersort blank in the file where you have 2 composers and set the composersort for both of the composers in another file? Maybe good if you can show the tags of a track as an example and mention what is not working? Living: EtherRegen -> Ultrarendu -> Benchmark DAC2 HGC -> Benchmark AHB2 -> ATC SCM19 v2 & Sennheiser HD650 Kitchen: SB Touch -> Audio Pro Addon T10 gen2 Kids rooms: SB Booms Bedroom: SB Boom & SB Radio Controls: iPeng, Material Skin & LMS via internet Server: Windows 10 Pro with LMS 7.9.3 Spare: 2 SB Touch, 1 SB3, 2 SB Radio ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Blackfiction's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113834 _______________________________________________ ripping mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/ripping
