2013/12/12 Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]>

> Just a tiny note due to overload ;)
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Radu Gheorghe <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'll leave it to Otis to give more details, because he's an Apache
> > committer, but I believe there's a misunderstanding here.
> >
> > An Apache project can still be backed up by a commercial company. Lots of
> > projects are, like Solr, Flume (another logging product!) and so on. The
> > main advantage I see is that it's easier for the community to contribute
> > and drive the project forward. It's a model that seems to work for
> > open-source software, and lots of projects who got in there are doing
> very
> > well - very active, growing, lots of people offering
> > consulting&support&professional services, building more complex products
> on
> > top of them, packaging them in various ways, etc
> >
> > I think this is an idea that would help drive more contributions and
> > hopefully solve the 24 hours/day problem that keeps popping up lately,
> more
> > and more as rsyslog gets more attention. To prove the "attention" theory,
> > let's look at some trends for rsyslog and some other products that came
> up
> > in discussions lately:
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=rsyslog%2C%20logstash%2C%20syslog-ng&cmpt=q
> >
> > And the mailing list traffic:
> > http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.rsyslog
> >
> > Maybe going to Apache would be a crazy idea in the sense that it requires
> > following that procedure. And people already have too little time. Maybe
> a
> > less crazy idea is just to put it on GitHub or somewhere similar where it
> > would be easy to just send pull requests.
>
>
> Well... done so 6 month ago ;) This is the initial blog post with some
> progress:
>
> http://blog.gerhards.net/2013/05/moving-to-github.html
>
> Was announced at several places. Overall feedback is "not bad, but no real
> difference".
>
>
Judging from the answers like "that would ROCK", I'd say it looks like a
good idea from other people's perspective, too :)

I would just do that if it's not much effort, and talk about Apache-ness
some more - as I personally don't know if it will help and by how much. I'm
thinking costs vs benefits.

Regarding costs: @Rainer: which parts are currently GPL? Who are the
authors? Can't they be contacted and asked nicely, for the sake of the
project, to change the license? @Otis: do you know what other costs (in
terms of work&time) are required to get a project like rsyslog in and
through the Incubator <http://incubator.apache.org/>?

Regarding benefits: @Otis can you say some more? I think I'll confuse
people more with my limited knowledge.

Wait, I found two interesting links that may help:
On community development: https://community.apache.org/contributors/
On how ASF works: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
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