Dear Friends,
  I understood & really appreciate Monoj Kamraji's advice to use RTI at the 
SIC. But, may be due to my ineptitude on the subject, I fail to understand the 
'pichkari' concept of Mr. Roy. As I was given to understand "It(RTI) enhances 
the accountability of the Government, improves decision-making, provides better 
information to elected representatives, enhances Government credibility with 
its citizens, AND PROVIDES A POWERFUL AID IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION"  So 
I hope you will appreciate that combat/fight mode is incororated within the 
prelude of the Act. And I hope you will also appreciate with what  Frederick 
Douglas once said that "Those who profess to favour freedom, & depreciate 
agitation, are men who want crops without ploughing the ground".
  I don't know much about other States, in West Bengal, the Right to 
Information is presently the Fight for Information, that'll continue untill 
established.
  In Solidarity,
  ~MALAY~

sroy1947 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          Dear Group

If we see the title of Malay's post, he is asking for advice on how to
"COMBAT". Manoj Kamra is also in the "Combat" mode. IMHO these are not
combat issues - if we try combat using a piddling little "weapon" like
RTI we will lose. RTI is now like a pichkari used for Holi.

The only role left for RTI - is what it is originally intended for -
to get information to citizens. How we use the information is beyond RTI.

We should instead concentrate on Combating ourselves, to refrain from
asking stupid / invalid questions to PIOs in RTI, to plan our RTI
requests carefully, and to use every mistake of PIO/PA to our advantage.

Finally, we should run very far away from RTI activists, NGOs and
other foreign financed pimps who are agitating RTI as a magic bullet
for remedying corruption. Penicillin was similarly touted as the
silver bullet for syphillis, it became ineffective due to gross
overuse and the virus / system got resistant and learnt to counter it.

Sarbajit

--- In [email protected], "Manoj K. Kamra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Sh.Malay,Sh.Pai,Sarbajit Royji,
> 
> In my opinion,detailed RTI applications for such matter to SIC can 
> be useful to some extent without any big external effort.
> 
> On every such decision/pending case at SIC,there can be a separate 
> RTI application---like copy of rule for not imposing penality for 
> giving false reply;copy of notesheet of postponed dates of hearings 
> showing justification,PIO presence,if any.;copy of causelists of 
> last two months,receipt&dispatch register(which will reveal 
> deliberate idleness).
> 
> Ultimately,second appeal hearings of PIO of SIC by SIC penalising 
> its own PIO(or giving false decision to protect him) can be breaking 
> news item and can compel SIC to improve its working.
> 
> regards
> Manoj K.Kamra
> 
> --- In [email protected], "sroy1947" <sroy1947@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Malay/ Manoj
> > 
> > The situation in WB is beyond repair. The state is now a Police /
> > Fascist State and these issues cannot be solved through RTI.
> > What is even more worrying is that this virus seems to be
> > spreading to other parts of India.
> > 
> > This issue will only be solved if President's Rule is imposed
> > on such States, but with the Centre dependent on these fascist
> > forces it seems unlikely in the short term.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Manoj Pai <manojpai@> wrote:
> > >
> > > To cut a long story short, I deviate slightly from the
> > > thread and wish to ask.... Has the Public Authority -
> > > the Municipality in your case, implemented Section 4
> > > of RTI Act? If not, that should a strong ground in
> > > your favour.
> > > 
> > > I would also insist that all RTI Activist should now
> > > focus on on Section 4 implementation and strongly
> > > impress on all Public Authorities for suo-motu
> > > declaration be made immediately. This should solve
> > > over a majority of the problems.
> > > 
> > > The PAs cannot plead ignorance now. They had over two
> > > years time for this.
> > > 
> > > Best wishes
> > > 
> > > Manoj Pai
> > > Ahmedabad
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Malay Bhattacharyya
> > > <bhattacharyyamalay@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Dear Friends,
> > > > The conspicuous dismal performance of the West
> > > > Bengal Information Commission is a known fact to
> > > > all, by now. Hopefully due to this, as expected, we
> > > > are regularly receiving complaints in writing from
> > > > different parts of West Bengal, that the Government
> > > > Officials are threatening the RTI Applicants (mostly
> > > > the BPL Community)of dire consequences if they file
> > > > RTI applications. Some senior bureaucrats even went
> > > > on showing visiting cards of the Hon'ble SCIC & the
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> __________________________________________________________
> _______________
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> > >
> >
>



                         


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