Roger, Bob, Peter, Simon and anybody who is still interested!

First off the histogram is one of the most important things to check 
when shooting.  It is basically a digital map of that image showing the 
range of shadows and highlites.  It comes in real handy when determining 
what will show properly.  For instance if your shooting a dark Pennsy 
GG-1 near a dark building but you pose a bride dressed in white next to 
those items you'll want to know what will reproduce in the shot, what 
will be lost and what will be saved.  The usual thing to do is say--Wow 
that's dark scene, I'll open up a stop or two and shoot--which is what 
your camera's meter is liable to do.  If you do that, you will likely 
overexposure the bride and the bride's father won't pay you for the 
shot.  The histogram would show a 'spike' where the white would be and a 
low level of information in the shadows.  If you 'open up' too much the 
brides dress and it's corresponding spike will go beyond the 
graph--meaning you've lot detail.  If you overexpose with digital you'll 
never recover the image--the color negative that you probably shot back 
in film days was designed to accept a lot of overexposure and still be 
printable.  With digital, if it's over exposed, better luck next time.

When it comes to RAW and working with it, I did a whole day seminar that 
solved tons of problems, so it does take some learning time and practice 
time to really understand how it works.  One of the advantages of using 
the Adobe system (Adobe is somewhat like MS--considered pretty close to 
God himself) is that you do a DNG conversion first--that Digital 
Negative is becoming the standard of the industry.  The Digital Negative 
Converter is a free download from Adobe I believe.  Once you have the 
negative it goes into the RAW converter.  This is where a lot magic 
happens!  You can make adjustments to the RAW file without destroying 
the original data--impossible in the past!  For instance you can crop an 
image creative a JEPG and email it.  A week later you can pick up that 
same DNG, put in back into the RAW converter create a high end color 
image in TIFF format to be used for a large poster.  So its very much 
like making several trips to the darkroom or photo lab.  So keeping the 
RAW file or DNG is just like storing a piece of film that can be used 
over and over again without throwing away data.  Peter is incorrect in 
stating that editing in TIFF retains all the data.  If you have to make 
a radical color change or if you try to save a poor exposed image you 
will notice a unfortunate change in the histogram (there it is again).  
Often times when you have to make these changes the histogram will look 
like a comb.  It will have spikes of detail next of open areas; and the 
slang term is called combing.  The open areas contain no data, because 
you threw it away often resulting in posterization of the image.  Now he 
is correct in stating that you can save the image many times without 
loss of quality however.

My recent updating of computers hopefully will keep me in the loop in 
processing many large files in rapid fire time span.  We did things like 
arrange hard drives into a RAID, we will take some more and put them 
into a Drobro.  This new box has 'time machine' built into the Snow 
Leopard--man we come a long way from Mac and cheese!

Bob Werre
BobWphoto.com



On 10/22/10 7:38 PM, shabbona_rr wrote:
>
> That's one reason I haven't succumbed to DCC. It's one more digitized 
> headache I can live without, and I would rather use my obviously 
> limited brain capacity on more productive pursuits.
>
> Knowing how much time I spend on electronic nincompoopery anyway, I 
> don't know how some of these people get so much done, yet, I know they 
> do, because we see the results of their efforts every day.
>
> The other day, on some website, someone was raving about the value of 
> histograms in improving photographs, so I looked it up. I might as 
> well have been up against a ten foot thick glass wall. I could 
> visually see people happily applying information from histograms to 
> improve their pictures, but I had no idea what they were doing, or how 
> they got to the other side of that glass wall!
>
> On the other hand, I FNF for the day was installing a microswitch to 
> kill the North Yard storage tracks at Terminal District when the 
> switch is lined against them. It worked and I feel great. Life is good!
>
> "S"tring Bob
>



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