Well said John! Nothing wrong with AF it just won't bring scalers to "S". 

Butch Holtgrieve
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... but coming to this conclusion does nothing for those not in S.  The problem 
we have is in making an effective statement to the other SCALES that S is NOT 
just AF and that there are some real modelers amongst us... and real MODELS as 
well, not just all toys.  Until we get THAT message out there EFFECTIVELY... 
nothing is going to change.  But the paradox is that something is going to have 
to change to get that message out there. 

John Degnan 
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