From: Alan Lambert Jim, Please disreguard this post. I will still use you if I see a car offered that I want, Meaning I will go full scale at home and keep my train club high rail stock. I was just trying to drum upsome new business for you. Thanks, Alan
________________________________ From: Alan Lambert <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:51 AM Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} SR gon in S scale? Fine, You just lost me .I was going to go scale but thanks to you I will stay high rail. I was trying to drum up more business for you from my side but you see the dark side. Go to the STOT yahoo group and you will see what I mean. We as high rail want new cars that are modern and thought you might help as a producer.You worry about production numbers. Not everyone wants your cars. The scale guys are bairly keeping you going from what I see from your website. To restate what I started with, I will change couplers and keep high rail wheelsj just like Brooks Stover and his railroad. My own opinion. Thanks, Alan ________________________________ From: smokymtn28805 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} SR gon in S scale? The entire point to producing my resin rolling stock and diesel kits is to be as prototypically accurate as possible. I have produced the H10-44 and both 44-tonners with hi-rail wheelsets because there is room for the larger flanges and thicker treads. However, there is no such room under my freight car kits. To offer AF-compatible wheelsets means compromising (read: removing) a lot of detail that I spend a bunch of time researching, designing and patterning. I am not willing to make that compromise. If a modeler wants to remove the corner steps and a good portion of the underframe and bolster to accommodate larger wheelsets, that's his choice. Scale modelers make up over 85% of my S scale sales. Removing such detail would kill those sales and that's just not good business. Granted, I may be losing some sales from the hi-rail crowd but, at most, I'd only pick up a few more sales while losing a large portion of scale sales. Jim King SMMW --- In [email protected], Alan Lambert <alanlambert64@...> wrote: > > From: Alan Lambert > I was not comparing, I was just giving the lengtth of the American Models > condola. I like what Jim is doing but he needs to run more than what he does > per run. If he did the high rail guys I talk with all the time might give him > a shot .I know we would have o furnish our own wheels and couplers and make > miner adaption for the bolster plates, but there are some that would do that. > My opinion. >                                                                         > Thanks, >                                                                                      > Alan > Yes i'm High rail but I get half of my ideas from the scale side. > > > ________________________________ > From: Donald <donald_macdougall@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:00 PM > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} SR gon in S scale? > > > >  > > No disrespect to American Models, > However comparing AM and SMMW kits is like American Flyer of old and SHS of > today and then some. The kits don't just look some what similar to prototype, > they look like the real deal. > Don MacDougall > Scale Modeler > UK > > --- In [email protected], Alan Lambert <alanlambert64@> wrote: > > > > From: Alan Lambert > >           Lone Star Flyer Club > >           Arlington, Texas > > All, > > The American Models condola measures at 52 ft. I have one and we need > > some longer. I would goo for a drop end also. > >                                                > > Thanks, > >                                                             > > Alan > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: pickycat95 <pickycat95@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:16 PM > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} SR gon in S scale? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Jim King has floated proposals for two kinds of gondolas - several weeks > > ago a high-sided one that I think was used in coal service. The other one > > from a few days ago that in general shape looks something like the AM > > version. I haven't had a chance to measure the length of the AM offering > > but in details it is rather different than what Jim King has proposed. > > Ben Trousdale > > > > --- In [email protected], Alex Binkley <alex.binkley@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi William: > > > I've never seen an AM freight car that looks anything like what Jim is > > > offering. There was Quality Craft kit many years ago. This is a hi side > > > gon not the standard one that AM offers. > > > cheers > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: William Laffan > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:41 PM > > > Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} SR gon in S scale? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim: > > > > > > I am sure that the kit would be up to your usual high standards. > > > > > > Unfortunately, it appears to duplicate an existent product done by > > > American Models, which practically every S scaler has multiples of. > > > > > > How about doing a 60' drop-end gon? The only prior example of that was > > > a relatively short run brass one (PRR) done a few years back by Bill Lane. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William E. 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If you are not the intended > > > recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact > > > the sender by reply email or telephone, and delete all copies of this > > > message > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf Of SMMW > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:21 AM > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; S Trains > > > Subject: {S-Scale List} SR gon in S scale? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of my S scale rolling stock offerings, except the Barber trucks, > > > were created in HO before being converted to S. An HO kit that I > > > produced last year has not been offered to S scale so I thought I'd > > > remedy that now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to this link: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com/HO_gondolas.html > > > > > > > > > > > > The 2 SR 52'-6" gons at the top of the web page have not been mentioned > > > before so if there is interest, now's the time to chime in. For the > > > purists out there, these Pullman-Std. cars were built only for the > > > Southern (as far as I can determine), however, they are VERY close in > > > detail, rib count and length to ACF's version which a LOT of roads owned > > > (visit www.tangentscalemodels.com to view the HO ACF paint schemes). The > > > primary spotting differences between the P-S version and ACF are the ends > > > and end sills; ACF ends were available as a drop-down option and ACF end > > > sills were angled. > > > > > > > > > > > > The HO cars have sold reasonably well since it's never been produced in > > > HO. It's a "steam-era" car (1 batch built in 1953 delivered in Roman, 1 > > > batch in 1958 delivered in Block) that ran well into the 90s in MOW > > > service. I shot 2 in the mid-80s still wearing very beat up Roman > > > lettering. > > > > > > > > > > > > The proposed S scale kits would be available as a 1-pc body with > > > separate urethane underframe, brass weight, etched tie down U-loops that > > > run the length of the car on both sides and decals. The etched fret also > > > includes the brake platform. I think an "econo-kit" option is applicable > > > for this one since ladders are short (easy to scratchbuild) and > > > trucks/couplers/Grandt AB brakes are readily available. The remaining > > > parts are round and flat wire (for steps) and miscellaneous styrene > > > strips (ladders). Depending on how many kits are reserved, I can > > > probably sell either decal option kit for around $60. Decals and etched > > > parts are VERY expensive and the latter requires new artwork and minimum > > > sheet order quantity. A mini-CD containing 22 pages and TONS prototype > > > pix completes the kit (a full-size CD is available upon request for Mac > > > users). > > > > > > > > > > > > This kit would follow the SAL B7 car which is now being designed in HO > > > and moving along well. Please reply off-list if you are interested in > > > either/both of the SR gons. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim King > > > > > > Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc. > > > > > > Ph. (828) 777-5619 > > > > > > <www.smokymountainmodelworks.com> > > > > > >
