Put in sump pumps. John Armstrong
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From: Alan Lambert
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old structures/new structures
From: Alan Lambert
Well put,
Depends on the area's watertable as to where basements are. That and type of
soil, ( clay) that we (Texas ) have to deal with.
Thanks, Alan
From: Carey Probst <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old structures/new structures
A lot of Florida is the same way. Has a lot to do with the high water
tables. Clearwater's high point being about 6 ft above sea level.
In NY where I used to live basements were common and my well was 340
feet deep.
Carey
Carey Probst
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On 3/12/2012 11:38 AM, Alan Lambert wrote:
> From: Alan Lambert
> Lone Star Flyer club
> Arlington, Texas
> Bob,
> I can relate to the lack of basements in models. It must be a Texas
> thang. You know we don't have basements In Fort Worth or the whole
> state for that matter. One thing I really miss. I guess that is where
> scratch building comes in. Add our own basement. Come up to our lo.cal
> train shows sometime At Plano we were on the local CH. 11 news from
> unloading til we had the layout up and running. Plugging this years
> show's.
> Thanks ,
> Alan
> *From:* Bob Werre <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 AM
> *Subject:* Re: {S-Scale List}old structures/new structures
>
> Friends,
>
> I also have been somewhat overwhelmed with the quality and quantity of
> structure kits in our favorite scale. Back when I started my layout
> it was pretty much FinesKinds, Mini-structures, and Leigh Valley. And
> like everybody at the time, I inherited the basic Mini-structures
> single story station and I built the Leigh branchline station. It
> didn't take me too long before discovering that everybody else had
> those same structures. But over the years we've added so many neat
> buildings. I enjoy building structures so if you add up all the false
> fronts on my layout I bet I'm in the 150-200 range. So I have a 1:1
> ratio between cars and structures (that was for Jim King). I probably
> have a dozen car kits to build and only two structure kits waiting in
> line.
>
> I'll agree with Jim here, and say simple buildings will work in most
> situations. I too have one Bar Mills buildings...love it, but one
> goes a long way. I often stop along roads less traveled, stop in
> small towns and photograph all the neat and varied buildings on
> mainstreet. I did that when coming back from Bob Jackson's layout in
> Illinosis, I did it in Fort Worth near the stockyards, covered some
> neat buildings with Bill Click a few years back in some East Texas
> villages. I photographed some basic buildings near my hometown in
> South Dakota that garnered an award with a local graphics society. I
> look at all the detail that you can add to a kit from Plasticville on
> up, to make it look like it's been there a long time.
>
> However, one thing most kits/final buildings seem to lack is
> provisions for a basement. Many areas have basements and I've only
> seen one, the Monon Shop provided one on his Bob's Barbershop kit.
> I'm talking about a raised building with small windows near ground
> level and around the perminter. Often there was an outside stairway
> leading down to the basement level. That stairway usually had a pipe
> safety railing and the local guys would sit on that railings--a great
> place to add character!
>
> One thing I wish for is a windmill. I've seen an etched brass version
> in HO while I have two of the earlier Woodland's scenic's soft metal
> versions. Even though windmills differ vastly in height these don't
> even match the smallest I've seen, so they only work really far in the
> distance for S. A windmill would work for any isolated water tank
> until the late steam era, and many farms still have and use them
> today. I feel one would have to do a tremendous amount of work to
> solder one together and I need 2-3 on my layout...so that remains on
> my wish list!
>
> Bob Werre
>> Guys:
>>
>> At the risk of growing the thread, my random, non-critical thoughts
>> on others' thoughts:
>>
>> The elephant in the room that seems to be so often overlooked, is
>> that we are very small numerically speaking, with widely varying
>> architectural needs and wants While a lot of guys on this list
>> complain about how little is available in structure kits, I marvel at
>> how much there actually is. If you were to add up all the S scale
>> offerings, past and present from various structure manufacturers,
>> I'm sure it would number into the hundreds.
>>
>> Personally, I enjoy scratch building specific (to my needs)
>> structures, but I do buy the odd kit if I think I can make it fit the
>> scene I want to create. When considering a kit, I prefer simple,
>> typical structures.
>>
>> I love the look of Bar Mills structures but but too many on my layout
>> would make it look like a theme park. I have purchased their "One
>> Kit" because it's a clever concept I can probably use in the future
>> without have to scare up a lot of scratch building materials
>>
>>
>> Back to the typical, I will be ordering Altoona's branch line water
>> tank. It's close enough to what I need. Typical sells, At least to me.
>>
>> As for those who can't find a structure kit specific to their needs,
>> try scratch building. The fact that you're willing to tackle a kit
>> at least means you have no" tool allergies"
>>
>> My two cents
>>
>> Cheers'
>> Jim Martin.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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