From: Alan Lambert
 
John,
Down here in Texas Most of the barns  hold Bales of  hay for livestock. Most 
old  country buildings, Homes were like that. That created the crawl spaceunder 
the house. Usually no more than a 4 foot  crawl space at that. depended on the 
house location.
                   Thanks,
                                Alan
 

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 From: John <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old structures/new structures
  

 
   
 
 
They make their liquor in the barn, or out in the 
woods down south.  But in the basement up north. 
  
The singing in the churches down south gets so loud 
it raises the building up off the ground. So they just put stones under the 
corners.          BTS take 
note: 
  
John Armstrong 
----- Original Message -----  
>From: Alan  Lambert  
>To: [email protected]  
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:38  AM 
>Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old  structures/new structures 
>
>  
>From: Alan Lambert 
>           Lone  Star Flyer club 
>           Arlington,  Texas 
>  
>Bob,  
>I can relate to the lack of basements in models. It must be a Texas  thang. 
>You know we don't have basements In Fort Worth or the whole state  for that 
>matter. One thing I really miss. I guess that is where scratch  building comes 
>in. Add our own basement. Come up to our lo.cal train shows  sometime At Plano 
>we were on the local CH. 11 news from unloading til we had  the layout up and 
>running. Plugging this years show's. 
>                                Thanks ,  
>                                               Alan
>  
>
>________________________________
>From: Bob  Werre <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21  AM
>Subject: Re: {S-Scale  List}old structures/new structures
>
>
>  
>Friends,
>
>I also have been somewhat overwhelmed with the quality 
  and quantity of structure kits in our favorite scale.  Back when I 
  started my layout it was pretty much FinesKinds, Mini-structures, and Leigh 
  Valley.  And like everybody at the time, I inherited the basic 
  Mini-structures single story station and I built the Leigh branchline 
  station.  It didn't take me too long before discovering that everybody 
  else had those same structures.  But over the years we've added so many 
  neat buildings.  I enjoy building structures so if you add up all the 
  false fronts on my layout I bet I'm in the 150-200 range.  So I have a 
  1:1 ratio between cars and structures (that was for Jim King).  I 
  probably have a dozen car kits to build and only two structure kits waiting 
in 
  line. 
>
>I'll agree with Jim here, and say simple buildings will work in 
  most situations.  I too have one Bar Mills buildings...love it, but one 
  goes a long way.  I often stop along roads less traveled, stop in small 
  towns and photograph all the neat and varied buildings on mainstreet.  I 
  did that when coming back from Bob Jackson's layout in Illinosis, I did it in 
  Fort Worth near the stockyards, covered some neat buildings with Bill Click a 
  few years back in some East Texas villages.  I photographed some basic 
  buildings near my hometown in South Dakota that garnered an award with a 
local 
  graphics society.  I look at all the detail that you can add to a kit 
  from Plasticville on up, to make it look like it's been there a long 
  time.
>
>However, one thing most kits/final buildings seem to lack is 
  provisions for a basement.   Many areas have basements and I've only 
  seen one, the Monon Shop provided one on his Bob's Barbershop kit.   I'm 
  talking about a raised building with small windows near ground level and 
  around the perminter.  Often there was an outside stairway leading down 
  to the basement level.  That stairway usually had a pipe safety railing 
  and the local guys would sit on that railings--a great place to add 
  character!
>
>One thing I wish for is a windmill.  I've seen an 
  etched brass version in HO while I have two of the earlier Woodland's 
scenic's 
  soft metal versions.  Even though windmills differ vastly in height these 
  don't even match the smallest I've seen, so they only work really far in the 
  distance for S.  A windmill would work for any isolated water tank until 
  the late steam era, and many farms still have and use them today. I feel one 
  would have to do a tremendous amount of work to solder one together and I 
need 
  2-3 on my layout...so that remains on my wish list!
>
>Bob Werre  
>
>  
>>Guys: 
>>
>> 
>>At the risk of growing the thread, my random, non-critical   thoughts on 
>>others' thoughts:   
>>
>> 
>>The elephant in the room that seems to be so often overlooked, is  that we 
>>are very small numerically speaking, with widely varying   architectural 
>>needs and wants  While a lot of guys on this list  complain about how little 
>>is available in structure kits, I marvel at how  much there actually is.  If 
>>you were to add up all the S scale  offerings, past and present  from various 
>>structure manufacturers, I'm  sure it would number into the hundreds. 
>>
>> 
>>Personally, I enjoy scratch building specific (to my needs)  structures, but 
>>I do buy the odd kit if I think I can make it fit the scene  I want to 
>>create.  When considering a kit, I prefer simple, typical  structures.  
>> 
>>
>> 
>>I love the look of Bar Mills structures but but too many on my  layout would 
>>make it look like a theme park.  I have purchased their  "One Kit" because 
>>it's a clever concept I can probably use in the future  without have to scare 
>>up a lot of scratch building 
materials
>>
>>
>> 
>>Back to the typical, I will be ordering Altoona's branch line  water tank.  
>>It's close enough to what I need.  Typical sells, At  least to me. 
>>
>> 
>>As for those who can't find a structure kit specific to their  needs, try 
>>scratch building.  The fact that you're willing to tackle a  kit at least 
>>means you have no" tool allergies" 
>>
>> 
>>My two cents 
>>
>> 
>>Cheers' 
>>Jim Martin.   
>>
>> 
>>  
>>
>
>
> 
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