From: Alan Lambert
 
John,
Would take one the same size as the house foudation without burning up the 
motor. We would have constsnt seepage if you know what that is.
                     Thanks,
                                   Alan
 

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 From: John <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old structures/new structures
  

 
   
 
 
Put in sump 
pumps.         John 
Armstrong 
----- Original Message -----  
>From: Alan  Lambert  
>To: [email protected]  
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:13 
PM 
>Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old  structures/new structures 
>
>  
>From: Alan Lambert 
>  
>Well put, 
>Depends on the area's watertable as to where basements are. That  and type of 
>soil, ( clay) that we (Texas ) have to deal 
with. 
>                      Thanks, Alan 
>
> 
>
>________________________________
>From: Carey Probst <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:05  PM
>Subject: Re: {S-Scale  List}old structures/new structures
>
>
>  
>A lot of Florida is the same way. Has a lot to do with the high water 
>tables. Clearwater's high point being about 6 ft above sea 
  level.
>
>In NY where I used to live basements were common and my well was 
  340 
>feet deep.
>
>Carey
>
>Carey Probst
>
>Member, M.I.T. 
  Educational Council
>
>S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF
>
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  regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
>
>the 
  right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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>On 
  3/12/2012 11:38 AM, Alan Lambert wrote:
>> From: Alan Lambert
>> 
  Lone Star Flyer club
>> Arlington, Texas
>> Bob,
>> I can 
  relate to the lack of basements in models. It must be a Texas 
>> thang. 
  You know we don't have basements In Fort Worth or the whole 
>> state for 
  that matter. One thing I really miss. I guess that is where 
>> scratch 
  building comes in. Add our own basement. Come up to our lo.cal 
>> train 
  shows sometime At Plano we were on the local CH. 11 news from 
>> 
  unloading til we had the layout up and running. Plugging this years 
>> 
  show's.
>> Thanks ,
>> Alan
>> *From:* Bob Werre <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> 
  *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: {S-Scale 
  List}old structures/new structures
>>
>> Friends,
>>
>> I 
  also have been somewhat overwhelmed with the quality and quantity of 
>> 
  structure kits in our favorite scale. Back when I started my layout 
>> 
  it was pretty much FinesKinds, Mini-structures, and Leigh Valley. And 
>> 
  like everybody at the time, I inherited the basic Mini-structures 
>> 
  single story station and I built the Leigh branchline station. It 
>> 
  didn't take me too long before discovering that everybody else had 
>> 
  those same structures. But over the years we've added so many neat 
>> 
  buildings. I enjoy building structures so if you add up all the false 
>> 
  fronts on my layout I bet I'm in the 150-200 range. So I have a 1:1 
>> 
  ratio between cars and structures (that was for Jim King). I probably 
>> 
  have a dozen car kits to build and only two structure kits waiting in 
>> 
  line.
>>
>> I'll agree with Jim here, and say simple buildings will 
  work in most 
>> situations. I too have one Bar Mills buildings...love 
  it, but one 
>> goes a long way. I often stop along roads less traveled, 
  stop in 
>> small towns and photograph all the neat and varied buildings 
  on 
>> mainstreet. I did that when coming back from Bob Jackson's layout 
  in 
>> Illinosis, I did it in Fort Worth near the stockyards, covered 
  some 
>> neat buildings with Bill Click a few years back in some East 
  Texas 
>> villages. I photographed some basic buildings near my hometown 
  in 
>> South Dakota that garnered an award with a local graphics society. 
  I 
>> look at all the detail that you can add to a kit from Plasticville 
  on 
>> up, to make it look like it's been there a long 
  time.
>>
>> However, one thing most kits/final buildings seem to 
  lack is 
>> provisions for a basement. Many areas have basements and I've 
  only 
>> seen one, the Monon Shop provided one on his Bob's Barbershop 
  kit. 
>> I'm talking about a raised building with small windows near 
  ground 
>> level and around the perminter. Often there was an outside 
  stairway 
>> leading down to the basement level. That stairway usually 
  had a pipe 
>> safety railing and the local guys would sit on that 
  railings--a great 
>> place to add character!
>>
>> One thing I 
  wish for is a windmill. I've seen an etched brass version 
>> in HO while 
  I have two of the earlier Woodland's scenic's soft metal 
>> versions. 
  Even though windmills differ vastly in height these don't 
>> even match 
  the smallest I've seen, so they only work really far in the 
>> distance 
  for S. A windmill would work for any isolated water tank 
>> until the 
  late steam era, and many farms still have and use them 
>> today. I feel 
  one would have to do a tremendous amount of work to 
>> solder one 
  together and I need 2-3 on my layout...so that remains on 
>> my wish 
  list!
>>
>> Bob Werre
>>> Guys:
>>>
>>> At 
  the risk of growing the thread, my random, non-critical thoughts 
>>> 
  on others' thoughts:
>>>
>>> The elephant in the room that 
  seems to be so often overlooked, is 
>>> that we are very small 
  numerically speaking, with widely varying 
>>> architectural needs and 
  wants While a lot of guys on this list 
>>> complain about how little 
  is available in structure kits, I marvel at 
>>> how much there 
  actually is. If you were to add up all the S scale 
>>> offerings, 
  past and present from various structure manufacturers, 
>>> I'm sure 
  it would number into the hundreds.
>>>
>>> Personally, I enjoy 
  scratch building specific (to my needs) 
>>> structures, but I do buy 
  the odd kit if I think I can make it fit the 
>>> scene I want to 
  create. When considering a kit, I prefer simple, 
>>> typical 
  structures.
>>>
>>> I love the look of Bar Mills structures 
  but but too many on my layout 
>>> would make it look like a theme 
  park. I have purchased their "One 
>>> Kit" because it's a clever 
  concept I can probably use in the future 
>>> without have to scare up 
  a lot of scratch building materials
>>>
>>>
>>> Back 
  to the typical, I will be ordering Altoona's branch line water 
>>> 
  tank. It's close enough to what I need. Typical sells, At least to 
  me.
>>>
>>> As for those who can't find a structure kit 
  specific to their needs, 
>>> try scratch building. The fact that 
  you're willing to tackle a kit 
>>> at least means you have no" tool 
  allergies"
>>>
>>> My two cents
>>>
>>> 
  Cheers'
>>> Jim 
  Martin.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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