They make their liquor in the barn, or out in the woods down south.  But in the 
basement up north.

The singing in the churches down south gets so loud it raises the building up 
off the ground. So they just put stones under the corners.          BTS take 
note:

John Armstrong
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alan Lambert 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old structures/new structures


    

  From: Alan Lambert
             Lone Star Flyer club
             Arlington, Texas

  Bob, 
  I can relate to the lack of basements in models. It must be a Texas thang. 
You know we don't have basements In Fort Worth or the whole state for that 
matter. One thing I really miss. I guess that is where scratch building comes 
in. Add our own basement. Come up to our lo.cal train shows sometime At Plano 
we were on the local CH. 11 news from unloading til we had the layout up and 
running. Plugging this years show's.
                                 Thanks , 
                                                Alan

    
  From: Bob Werre <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 AM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List}old structures/new structures



    
  Friends,

  I also have been somewhat overwhelmed with the quality and quantity of 
structure kits in our favorite scale.  Back when I started my layout it was 
pretty much FinesKinds, Mini-structures, and Leigh Valley.  And like everybody 
at the time, I inherited the basic Mini-structures single story station and I 
built the Leigh branchline station.  It didn't take me too long before 
discovering that everybody else had those same structures.  But over the years 
we've added so many neat buildings.  I enjoy building structures so if you add 
up all the false fronts on my layout I bet I'm in the 150-200 range.  So I have 
a 1:1 ratio between cars and structures (that was for Jim King).  I probably 
have a dozen car kits to build and only two structure kits waiting in line. 

  I'll agree with Jim here, and say simple buildings will work in most 
situations.  I too have one Bar Mills buildings...love it, but one goes a long 
way.  I often stop along roads less traveled, stop in small towns and 
photograph all the neat and varied buildings on mainstreet.  I did that when 
coming back from Bob Jackson's layout in Illinosis, I did it in Fort Worth near 
the stockyards, covered some neat buildings with Bill Click a few years back in 
some East Texas villages.  I photographed some basic buildings near my hometown 
in South Dakota that garnered an award with a local graphics society.  I look 
at all the detail that you can add to a kit from Plasticville on up, to make it 
look like it's been there a long time.

  However, one thing most kits/final buildings seem to lack is provisions for a 
basement.   Many areas have basements and I've only seen one, the Monon Shop 
provided one on his Bob's Barbershop kit.   I'm talking about a raised building 
with small windows near ground level and around the perminter.  Often there was 
an outside stairway leading down to the basement level.  That stairway usually 
had a pipe safety railing and the local guys would sit on that railings--a 
great place to add character!

  One thing I wish for is a windmill.  I've seen an etched brass version in HO 
while I have two of the earlier Woodland's scenic's soft metal versions.  Even 
though windmills differ vastly in height these don't even match the smallest 
I've seen, so they only work really far in the distance for S.  A windmill 
would work for any isolated water tank until the late steam era, and many farms 
still have and use them today. I feel one would have to do a tremendous amount 
of work to solder one together and I need 2-3 on my layout...so that remains on 
my wish list!

  Bob Werre  

      
    Guys:


    At the risk of growing the thread, my random, non-critical  thoughts on 
others' thoughts:  


    The elephant in the room that seems to be so often overlooked, is that we 
are very small numerically speaking, with widely varying  architectural needs 
and wants  While a lot of guys on this list complain about how little is 
available in structure kits, I marvel at how much there actually is.  If you 
were to add up all the S scale offerings, past and present  from various 
structure manufacturers, I'm sure it would number into the hundreds.


    Personally, I enjoy scratch building specific (to my needs) structures, but 
I do buy the odd kit if I think I can make it fit the scene I want to create.  
When considering a kit, I prefer simple, typical structures.  



    I love the look of Bar Mills structures but but too many on my layout would 
make it look like a theme park.  I have purchased their "One Kit" because it's 
a clever concept I can probably use in the future without have to scare up a 
lot of scratch building materials




    Back to the typical, I will be ordering Altoona's branch line water tank.  
It's close enough to what I need.  Typical sells, At least to me.


    As for those who can't find a structure kit specific to their needs, try 
scratch building.  The fact that you're willing to tackle a kit at least means 
you have no" tool allergies"


    My two cents


    Cheers'
    Jim Martin.  


      








  

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