Hi John, Thanks, but even if your "condiments" are steak and lobster, it ain't gonna happen! I sincerely doubt that Frank has been doing much of anything towards actually making these couplers a reality, the last I heard he had decided to give up on the investment casting process and bite the bullet by having die-casting molds cut. That was quite a while ago, and now he seems to be back in investment casting mode.
I fear that he is just stringing everyone along on this, and sooner or later you'll probably reach the same conclusion. I hope I'm wrong, for your sake, but after more than 25 years in S scale, I will not wait any longer for couplers, especially since the Kadees are available and work pretty well. By the time Sergent S scale couplers do come out (if ever), I will not want to re-equip those cars I already have equipped with Kadees. Just for the record, when I added the line "Enough is Enough" to the message header, I was referring to the excuses coming from Sergent, not your updates, which I actually find useful, since contacting Sergent Engineering directly is all but impossible. Hang in there, Bill in FtL --- In [email protected], Scaler164@... wrote: > > > > Fear not, Bill... I have a rather large supply of condiments to go on those > words of yours when the time comes for you to have to start eating them. I > have told Bill Lane this, and I will now tell you the same thing... when a > manufacturer has discovered a problem with a manufacturing process, it is > their responsibility to fix the problem or find a better way to produce their > product. I respect and appreciate all that Frank Sergent is doing to > guarantee us a product worth waiting for. If you cannot, then go ahead and > invest in Kadee's lousy excuse for a coupler... and that is exactly what > you'll end up with. And then when the Sergent coupler happens, you'll > either decide to sell the Kadee stuff or learn to be as happy with them as > you can be. > > > > Being i n S scale for... how many years has it been now, Bill ?... i t seems > to me that you (and everyone else in this scale) would have learned by now to > have  the patience of Job... > > > > > John Degnan > > Scaler164@... > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bill Nielsen" <wrangler@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:43:02 PM > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough is enough! > > Hi John, > > You are correct, we are going to get more than we dreamed, and that "more" is > more of the same BS from Sergent. He mentions doing many shank styles, but > it's funny that Kadee has managed to produce all of their S, On3, and On30 > products with the same castings (shanks and all). Sorry, but I have developed > a low tolerance for BS in recent years. > > I am a member of both an HO and On30 modular clubs, in addition to having a > small S scale home layout, and I have been waiting for Sergent to produce S > couplers for far too long now. I had even been thinking about trying them in > HO, but now that is not going to happen, because if I am going to commit to > any new couplers, I need to know that the manufacturer is also going to be > committed to his product (and his customers), and be a reliable source of > that product, which clearly Sergent is not. Kadee is and always has been an > example of company who is so committed, and that is why they have owned the > model train coupler market (in all scales) for over 50 years now, while no > one else has come close. > > Too bad, Sergent couplers seemed like a great idea, but without being able to > back that idea up with a reliable supply, Sergent Engineering will not be > getting any of my money. > > Bill in FtL > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "John Degnan" <Scaler164@> wrote: > > > > Ok gang, here is the latest news on the Sergent Couplers... straight from > > Frank today : > > (Please don't read or comment if this does not interest you) > > > > > > > >  Hi John, > > > >  Well, I'm sorry to say that I won't have more couplers ready by > > convention time. I'm still struggling with the investment cast products and > > at this point I am convinced that the S scale coupler(s) will have to be > > investment cast because they will require multiple shank styles (and > > probably multiple head styles as well). The investment cast option will > > allow me to address a more diverse audience (Sn3, On3/On30, plus std gauge > > with shank styles that allow easy adaptation to existing equipment). > > > >  I'm located in Knoxville which is about 100 miles north of Chattanooga. > > I work a real job weekdays, but you are welcome to stop by on Saturday the > > 11th perhaps. My basement shop is typically a mess which I am sure you will > > forgive me for. I do ask that you come alone. There are some things you > > will certainly see that I do not want potential competitors to find out > > about until I am ready. > > > >  Thanks, > >  Frank > > > > It appears that we are going to be getting much more than I ever dreamed! > > > > > > John Degnan > > Scaler164@ > > Scaler187@ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
