As both an NASG member and NMRA life-member, and also as one of the people involved in getting the NMRA to adopt the NASG track and wheel standards (over 20 years ago) for "Fine Scale S", in order to have consistent standards between the two groups so that manufacturers could produce "S" scale products that would be compatible and interchangeable, I would caution against trying to change or "can" any current "Fine Scale" standards without the input and direction of both the NMRA and NASG Engineering departments. Several of the involved manufacturers (S Helper/MTH, Lionel, American Models, River Raisin, and PBL) should probably also be included.
Also, when considering any changes to any sets of "S" scale standards, please consider the effect such changes would have on existing equipment being run on existing layouts. No one wants the carpet yanked out from under them, especially when they have invested thousands of hours (and dollars) in their layouts and equipment. As far as I know, equipment built to the current NASG/NMRA Fine Scale standards is cross-compatible for both standard and narrow gauge "S". As for Proto-64, having one set of numbers makes sense, but I wonder just how many people are really using any of those dimensions for actual operating layouts or modules? I certainly don't think we should eliminate the existing S Fine Scale standards in favor of Proto-64, even if one set of P-64 numbers can be agreed upon. Regards, Bill Nielsen NMRA L3808 --- In [email protected], "scale S only" <scalesonly@...> wrote: > > Hi TC -- > > Bob Sherwood (see him on the nasg website under about and engineering chair) > should be the one to answer your proposal, at least for now. I will email > him directly after this to see if he is still active as the engineering chair > (I havenât seen or heard from him in three years). Even if he is not, Jim > Kindraka, Don Thompson and Dan Navarre all need to be involved as they know > the various standards and how your proposal might affect S products. Still, > if this is an improvement and can be implemented, the NASG will take it on. > > Thanks for sending and donât let it drop through a crack. I am still the > western VP until the convention in August, but I have a lot to do over the > next few months, and to be honest, this is not high on the priority list > right this minute. Relatively few modelers will be affected in the short > term by this as opposed to other, more widely distributed issues that the > NASG has to manage as quickly as I can get them resolved. > > Good to have met you at the Flagstaff meet. Always neat to have a face to > go with the words! > > Have fun! > Bill > > ------------------------------- > > Bill; > Expanding upon the stuff we talked about over the phone. > I have sent a message to Ed McCamey at the NMRA referent to the previous > discussions he and I had about code 88 wheels in "S" and P64. > There are currently 3 sets of stds for P64 and this is confusing to say the > least. I propose we can the other 2 and adopt the tested ones from the NMRA. > Further I propose we adopt the stds for High Rail and Narrow Gauge from the > NMRA or better as we now have non for this and are spossed to be for ALL "S" > modelers. > There are no cast in stone stds for Sn42 but most of us use H0. I propose all > narrow gauge stds except P64 use code 88 wheels. I do not know what Sn3 > currently uses. > I also think we should add a couple of RPs. One for Extra-fine (near-proto) > std gauge. And another for 3/16 AAR. > Most all of this has been engineered if not fully tested. I have spread > sheets for all but 3/16 AAR and will have that soon. The RP for ExFine is > basically the work done by desPlains with some additions by Ed. > Congratulations & Best O Ruck, > TC Carr > > Talmadge C 'TC' Carr > Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest > mailto:group_list%40dapenguin.net > > On Jul 1, 2013, at 8:39 PM, scale S only wrote: > > > Seriously, anyone who has CONSTRUCTIVE comments on how to improve the > > operation of the NASG, I am willing to listen. Just send me an email... > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
