On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Rob Beezer <[email protected]> wrote: > > +/- 0 to logging. I can argue both sides. > > On the one hand, I know I have seen things on #sage-devel that I think > would be better off not being posted and indexed - in particular, a > flamer and a naive-sage-support-poster being critiqued. Nothing > necessarily wrong with that, mostly folks blowing off steam, but > better I think to be "of the moment" than on the Internet Archive. I > imagine logging will have some influence on the informality of the > discussions (which I would miss). > > But, as has been demonstrated the past couple of days, a lot of > valuable information flows by. I often cut out tidbits to save for > later - such as when Citro and Alexander were doing release management > together. Others cut/paste from IRC onto tickets when the discussion > is technical, serious and applicable. > > Is it not relatively easy for an individual to log by themselves > locally? Maybe not an ideal compromise, but still a middle ground. > But of course, that doesn't give the new developer any history. Maybe > Harald is proposing a formal logged channel and an informal non-logged > channel, which would be another middle ground. > > Disclaimer: 100% of my IRC experience is on #sage-devel >
For the Sage project I think it would *best* if we changed our behavior on #sage-devel and make the #sage-devel logs public and searchable. The benefit to the project overall is that less gets discussed "in secret", process -- such as release management -- gets archived, etc. If people want to blow of steam or behave in a less than archivable way, they should do so elsewhere (e.g., #sage-flame). Also, by making the #sage-devel logs public, many more people will benefit from what happens there. I would go so far as to recommend that we auto-email the logs each day to sage-devel. Note that typically less than 20 people are logged into #sage-devel at any time, and there is no posted log, so the people that benefit from #sage-devel are about 2% of the subscribers to the sage-devel mailing list, which isn't much. William --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
