Hi (cousin) Ajay, I like your sense of humour! It matches mine!! (almost )
Patsy ________________________________ From: Ajay D'Cruz <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 12:06:05 PM Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Saligao-related issues I think I should put an end to the topic. There is a Child Abuse Helpline. It is well publicised and displayed on buses, etc. It is a 4 digit number which is easy to remember. But I don't remember the number .:-) Hope this helps any child, so please forward this to any 12 children you know after inserting the 4 digit number not mentioned above and your own phone number. Lets make this a better planet for children. (this para is in jest, hence please ignore this papa, since i added this because my email was rather short, and missing the fanfare that is otherwise present , as in elephant, ostrich, etc:-) ) Happy Feast! Best regards, Ajay D'Cruz On 4/28/10, ANNETTE D'SOUZA <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Discuss all you want, Patsy & other SaligaoNetters... "religious, political, > social, economic" & a whole host of other issues...I have never been against > discussion, or against people having their say, opinions, views... I have > reached the age & stage where I am well able to accept the latter, & > discuss. ....However I am surprised to note that you expect us to just > ignore the rules of what you call "Saligao-related" nonsense laid down on > this Forum. Do please get the rules changed using your persuasive tactics & > reasoning powers & we will follow suit ...- discussion of any and every > topic under the sun on SaligaoNet. I look forward to that..... In case you > are not aware yet .... GoaNet is a good forum to discuss various issues. > > > > By the way, Patsy, are you into mind-reading now?..... how would you know my > thoughts on care, protection of children or adults or animals for that > matter just because I wished that we SaligaoNetters adhere to the rule - > "Saligao-related" topics? > > > > As you said there are groups discussing various issues around the world & it > is no different in my small space of my world. This particular issue that > Dilip touched on has been a point of disucssion since last year or perhaps > before, (so you & Dilip are a bit late as it is) but as I mentioned above, I > do stick to rules laid down - can you envisage any system, school, > organisation, government etc. succeeding if their rules are not adhered to? > > > > As for your statement - "This has to do with basic issues of personal safety > and protection" - have you forgotten that these issues in general & in > particular have been around since time immemorial? & the world is still > dealing with them, sometimes succeeding but not always - I am sure you are > reading enough about the same on the newspaper every morning. > > > > With regard to the caption The Elephant in the Room ...... to cover all > aspects of this issue & prospective issues, perhaps we could tack on - > "Blinkers On"! > > > > We've had the Elephant, the Ostrich,... why not the Horse? Poor things! > all these animals/birds are God's creatures also & I dont like maligning > them as I care for these (vulnerable?) as they are unable to speak for > themselves and just have to accept whatever is meted out to them. ...Just > for the record, I am no activist - Human Rights or Animal Rights - just a > human sharing the Planet Earth with others & I would like to stay that way, > preferably in peace & harmony. > > > > > > Happy Feast to one & all...May the Mother of God bless & protect us all, > always. > > > > Annette > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:16:00 -0700 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] The Elephant in the Room....????? Ostrich head > inthe Sand???? > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Sorry....a little late in posting my comments on this topic. (Am actually > on vacation right now!) But as Dilip rightly says, this serious issue is > being discussed by all kinds of groups all over the world - especially > anyone interested in some positive action and outcomes. > > Every point that Dilip has made is extremely valid, and the degree to which > we participate or want to participate in a discussion of this kind (on any > forum), is a clear and direct indication of our interest in wanting to > protect the most vulnerable members of society - our children! We need to > be cautious about having completely blind faith in anyone. Unfortunately, > that is how the vulnerable are taken advantage of, anywhere....in case we > don't know already!! There is nothing wrong with wanting to be absolutely > reassured that our children receive the protection they deserve. And not > wanting to discuss matters like these because they are either "religious" or > "political" issues......I can't really make any sense of that at all. And > as far as the 'Saligao-related' nonsense goes.....I can only say how > disappointed I am that that thought would even come to the mind of anyone > who genuinely cares about children or youth. This has to do with basic > issues of personal safety and protection. > The "Elephant in the Room" caption for this issue could not be more apt! > > Patsy > > > > From: dilip dacruz <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 12:56:51 PM > Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] The Elephant in the Room....????? Ostrich head > inthe Sand???? > > > > > > > > So there genuinely is an elephant in the room that we daren't talk about... > and some of us move very quickly to keep it that way. > One says it's not a Saligao issue: didnt know there were no children in > saligao, or that saligaokars had no children elsewhere. Come on Annette! > > Melvin claims that having such a discussion would be religious or political > when in fact it is only about protecting children - our village children - > whether they have or have not been victims. (please note, Fred, no one is > guilty at present) > > And the rest of us bury our heads in the sand and discuss other matters of > great importance (religious feasts and youth soccer). How ironic! > > Just wanted to test the water and I've come to the conclusion that it's cold > - cold with fright. > > PS Thanks for the spoiler Albert, I had no idea what a trumpet looked like > until your email came along. > PPS Fred, is this one going to get through or is it too close to the bone? > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:44:07 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] The Elephant in the Room....????? Ostrich head > inthe Sand???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, > Fully agree with you that unless Saligao related other issues should not be > discussed or persons should not seek answers on this village website > specially if it is relating to politics and religion. > Let the village gossip prevail. > Melvin > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: ANNETTE D'SOUZA > Date: 4/19/2010 3:45:42 AM > To: Saligaon Foxy news > Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] The Elephant in the Room....????? Ostrich head > inthe Sand???? > > Hmm! I have questions, opinions, views on this issue & many others but > unless Saligao-related (that is the rule on this forum isnt it?) .....they > will remain with me! & from past experience it is better that religion & > politics is left out else we have everybody calling everybody names.... & > the issue gets left behind... & then the Moderator descends on us too. ...No > offense Rico & all the Fathers of SaligaoNet... Guess Rico finally managed > to divert the "crap" that got into our mailboxes till a few days ago. > > Hope you get your answers, Dilip!...even if not on this forum! How about > joining GoaNet or GoaNews. Rico can get you on those anytime...I think.... > and you will have a full mailbox too...can get your teeth (or mind) into > everything....I think... > > Have a good day..one & all > > Annette > > PS: Hope all are safe & sound at home & not stranded somewhere around the > world due to the "volclanic ash" spewed out. > > > > > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SALIGAONET] The Elephant in the Room > Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:24:30 +0400 > > > > > > > Brethren, > > we've all heard about parishonal child abuse in Canada, Australia, Ireland, > France and Germany. The matter is spreading globally, and not unexpectedly. > I came across an article in "The Independent" (London) that shocked me. It > was about possible parishonal child abuse in Malta, a bastion of > catholicism, just like Goa. > > Quote: "The tiny Mediterranean state, the last place in Europe where > divorce is not possible, is among the most devout in the Catholic world. But > the paedophilia crisis is raging here as well, with news that 25 of the > island's 855 priests face abuse allegations." > > http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/faith/pope-ventures-out-of-rome-ndash-but-victims-of-church-abuse-lie-in-wait-1947233.html > > Isn't it time this group addressed the elephant in the room? At what point > will one of us spineless ones actually stand up and ask about the welfare of > our own? When will we enquire about the welfare and protection of our young > people in Goa, Saligao included? Or are we going to continue to do the > ostrich trick and just keep our heads buried? Well, Im not ashamed and not > afraid to ask the questions. Here they are and I'd be grateful for any > answers/comments/ insults(!): > > Q1: Are there any policies in place that afford transparent protection to > the young lads in our seminary, schools or other places that deal with > children, catholic or otherwise? > > Q2: Have there ever been any cases of alleged child sexual abuse reported in > Saligao, and from such institutions in particular? If not, do we think > that's a troubling finding? or are we reassured? > > Q3: Is there a transparent, advertised process by which the vulnerable can > seek help? A telephone line, a contact person, an NGO etc > > Does any one in this group have answers/opinions on these issues? Or are we > all in the dark....and like it that way? Surely we should not be ashamed to > talk about these matters. Discussion is never harmful to people or > organisations. > > I was relieved to learn that the RC church in India had at last taken a > very, very small step to deal with the problem - they are having a > conference to discuss it.....well we have to start somewhere I guess, even > if its 15 years too late. > > http://in.christiantoday.com/articles/catholic-church-to-bring-guidelines-to-deal-with-sexual-abuse-by-clergy/5273.htm > > > [email protected] > > > > > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. > -- > This message comes via the Google Groups "Saligao-Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net?hl=en > Please post regularly to keep the e-village active! > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. 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