Is the topic still books & Library?...and Saligao?

 

Are there really Catholic Exorcists in Goa? Really? I will take your word for 
it, Dilip.  I know only of the People in Goa who "take out" Evil Eye using red 
chillies, salt & saying the Apostles Creed whilst doing so.  I think there is 
some reference in the Bible on this but dont quote me please. 

 

The first time I came across schizophrenia in a Goan I knew way back in 1982, 
the treatment took the form of tablets which were administered by a Doctor at 
the Goa Medical College..... although at that time, some Goans thought it was 
"madness" of the first order. Those people are now living normal lives or as 
near as normal since schizophrenia can be controlled but not cured..... or am I 
wrong in what I have come across? 

 

Where did that sentence come from - first time I have heard or read about it, 
"Congress for Catholics & BJP for Hindus".....strange!  But we have to play the 
"wait & watch" game.

 

Moderators, co-Moderators,  all the paras seem "off topic" to me, so I guess 
they will get axed even though they are replies to previous mails.  I have no 
issues either way.....

 

Ta ra

Annette 

 



From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] BOOKS
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 15:22:24 +0000






Dear Friends
Some vested interest has created a sort of phobia that congress is for catholic 
people and BJP is for the hindus. In the begining lots of people from across 
the border came to tell people that Gujerat is burning because they know we 
goans will be carried away by the words that flow from sacred mouth. I went on 
the net to really find out about Gujerat and found that what was said was not 
even half way true. There are villages in gujerat that looks like cities .Even 
Delhi may lack what I saw. Computers in the school, every house in a particular 
village had toilets . Schools were clean and internet facilities in the village 
etc etc some of the villages were green with fields showing bumper crops. What 
we see in Goa is people build houses in fields and others just sit at the tinto 
and criticise. Our mouths are always open. we never investigate and that is why 
some people fool us with stories that are not true.





Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 17:24:38 +0400
Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] BOOKS
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]




All I ever seem to achieve when I attempt to generate intelligent conversation 
is to awaken the arch-creationists  and their editor-in-chief.  
Modi's clean-up campaign we hope will help the village. But his election was 
not to be applauded. 
Were he to be successful in his endeavour to improve infrastructure and control 
corruption, the village will benefit directly... but we were directed to take 
that conversation elsewhere. How petty!

I take no blame for the suspended animation of the site; as many have said, we 
need to broaden the boundaries of conversation.

And when we publish loudly made statements that irritate every fibre of logical 
thinking such as 'God gave us clean air', our arch-creationists and their very 
silent editor should expect a little feedback. Here it is: 
1. when earth was first formed its atmosphere was not conducive to life. Do our 
children know this? Do they know just how 'polluted' the atmosphere was when 
single-cell organisms first appeared?

2. Creationists must surely believe God created pollution too...plastic bags, 
toxic fumes and all. Or is there some arbitary allocation process at work that 
only creationists understand? Are our children thought to question things in 
these ways or do we think a Enid Blyton and book of prayer library will suffice?

No dear editor. My selection of books is not bait but necessity. It is loudly 
proclaimed creationist noises that make it important to broaden the boundaries 
of this group, and to introduce books of science into the library which would 
otherwise only consist of Enid Blyton and a couple of bibles. 

And having just read Pope Francis' speech to Catholic exorcists - yes, 
exorcists- in Rome, I personally wont waste my time reading him any more, even 
though he was recommended by our controller. Catholic exorcists still 'treat' 
schizophrenia in Goa and Brazil by exorcising spirits. They'd be gaoled if they 
tried those nasty tricks in secular scientific societies nowadays.

More balance and a less prescriptive editorship, please. 



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From: "Frederick FN Noronha *  फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: 28 October 2014 17:31
To: "saligaonet" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] BOOKS








Hi Dilip,

Just a few suggestions. Hope you find these as polite as your mail...

Saligao-Net is dependent for its posts on all its members. That includes you. 
So if you take a dig at inactivity and obituaries, then it means we are all 
(including you) are not doing enough. Please step on the gas!

Just btw, Saligao-Net is also active on Facebook. I guess younger, 
Facebook-prone members find that a more convenient place to cyber-meetup. Are 
you there?

Any books are food for thought. But four books are far from sufficient to build 
a library. And a priority before the SI (apart from gaining more members), is 
to get an active library going. Agreed, this is a tough job.

As for your offer (bait?) of Dawkins and Hitchens, I must concede I'm not great 
fan of them. They come across as teenagers who have just discovered the impact 
of their disbelief. A Pope Francis, a Leonard Boff, a Tissa Balasuriya or even 
a Fidel and Frei Betto in discussion, do more for me to raise questions about 
the role of religion and society. Agreed, this is a matter of personal taste. FN



On 27 October 2014 12:52, dilip dacruz <[email protected]> wrote:



I see Saligaonet has lapsed into suspended animation once more, pending the 
next obituary. Thought I'd ignite things a bit by seeking suggestions for books 
I can donate to the Club Library. I shall be in town shortly and have 4 books 
that I think young village minds (and some elderly ones too) will gain much 
reward by studying. They are by Dawkins and Hitchens, and I am sure will be 
displayed in places of great prominence and received with much gratitude.

Any other suggestions? Please keep it polite.

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