On 03/19/2013 03:32 AM, Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics 
Planning) wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Can I make one last ditch attempt to organize a conference call/IRC session, 
> anything where we can have a forum of open discussion between the main 
> parties?
>
> Again, I don't mind organizing it.
>
> J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philipp Enoeckl [mailto:philipp.enoe...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 19 March 2013 10:08
> To: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Project merge
>
>
> Am 2013-03-19 08:06, schrieb Steve A:
>> Fulvio hasn't really looked at my project as far as i can tell, and i
>> get the impression he is not interested.
>>
>> So perhaps we can close this thread.
> Well, i am just a user, but it makes me really sad and frustated, there 
> apparently will be no merge.
> I do think, scid needs and deserves an active maintainer, active development 
> and an active community!
>
> Right now, people "in charge" didn't even care enough to update the homepage. 
> How will you get attention for building an active community, if you let the 
> world believe, the project is dead already? Until today, i thought, you don't 
> have the permissions to alter the homepage, but looking at the homepage 
> today, i find a new screenshot!
> Don't get me wrong, i am really grateful, i can use somebode elses work, but 
> honestly: something has gone completely wrong here in the last few years and 
> i don't mean the code.
> There is also no real homepage, no wiki, no documentation, no nothing.
> (There is the basic tutorial from 2003, written by Shane, of course)
>
> I am a user, i said:
> My only "contribution" to it would have been one line to make building scid 
> easier. Well, actually that one line never made it into the configure file 
> [because nobody cared], so my contribution is really zero.
> Yes, i once offered to help elsewhere (update tutorial, start a wiki...), but 
> i never even got a reply, so either there are just too many volunteers 
> around, i am - in the eyes of sb - just too stupid to help, or just nobody 
> cared (again).
>
> I really don't get it: you just let scid die (harsh words, i know), you don't 
> care about anything except code lines (which are "hidden" and not even linked 
> to the homepage), but the moment, somebody else wants to take over and has 
> proven himself to put good effort in this software (and not just code, just 
> compare the 2 homepages), there is a big uprise and promises, that there will 
> be changes, an update, a community, heaven on earth and whatnot.
>
> Yes, i am really grateful, developers let us users use "their" software.
> And yes, i also think, we would really need somebody like Steve.
>
> Right now it seems, things will stay as they are and the developers are 
> happy. Good for them, fine with me, i understand, its "their" software and 
> they can do whatever they want. It is just so frustating, when you see, it 
> could be so much better, if people would put their ego aside.
>
> As a user, the moment, scidvspc gets the docking mode, i will switch and i 
> think, i will not be the only one. Scid has the "brand" (simply much more 
> people know scid than scidvspc), scidvspc will be better( i think, with 
> docking feature, there is no real doubt about it), it would just make so much 
> sense to combine these projects from a user point of perspective.
>
> Just my 2c, i hope, i haven't been too personal, in case sombebody feels 
> insulted, i apologize. Really: to me, it is not so much about code lines and 
> maybe a don't appreciate that work as much as i should, but when it comes to 
> the "rest" nobody IMHO wants to take care of except Steve.
>
>
>
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Why bother? It is evident that Fulvio isn't moving forward.

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