I was too and my Mom wanted to marry him, but I remember there were many who initially thought the casting was way off base
-----Original Message----- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Meta Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:57 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* I was a near instance Picard fan, mainly because he was the total opposite of Kirk. If Kirk had been killed at anytime during TOS, I'd have leaped for joy.:) I really didn't like him until the movies appeared. Watching the movie today I found myself really liking this Kirk, much to my surprise.:) Quinto was outstanding,IMO. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@...> wrote: > > One more thing, Do any of you remember when people torn down TNG during its > premier. How about Picard. He is now among some more beloved than Kirk, > yet many were prepared to start a rebellion when the series premiered. I > think some of the traditionalists will eventually adapt and learn to > separate enjoy and gripe. Griping can be fun > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Justin Mohareb > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:46 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but a lot of people have decided that, sight unseen, they're not going > to like this film. > > > > I, personally, don't have the time or energy to debate or cajole or even, at > this point, care. > > > > Let them stew in prejudice and nostalgia. > > > > That leaves more seats for the rest of us. > > > > Justin > > On 10-May-09, at 10:15 AM, Adrianne Brennan <adrianne.bren...@...> > wrote: > > And yet, me and many others who ARE Trek fans--heck, been a Trekkie all of > my life--*loved* the movie! > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@...> > wrote: > > That, sir, is a DAMN good point. But then, I return to Abrams' own words. > > "If you're a Star Trek fan, you won't like this movie." > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 08:36:17 -0000 > > From : "sincere1906" <sincere1...@...> > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > Okay. Getting real Trek geek here... > > SPOILERS! > > SPOILERS! > > SPOILSRS! > > > Where are the Temporal Authorities? In a Deep Space 9 episode, we got to see > guys from the future who monitor time. I figure they must be able to remain > unaltered outside the timeline. Shouldn't some alarm (or however they're > notified) have gone off somewhere as soon as that giant Romulan ship showed > up and started rippling through the time line? > > Jes thinkin aloud... > > Sin > > > > -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" wrote: > > > > Okay it's 4am, I saw the new Trek movie about 8 hours ago and am just > getting in after a night of debauchery. So I might be writing this on a Red > Stripe buzz, but here goes... > > > > S P O I L E R S ! ! ! > > > > I liked the movie. As a movie, it was good. The plot was decent. There was > well-paced excitement, humor, etc. The cast was relatable. I thought > everyone did a great job playing their roles--even down to Chekhov. So as a > movie, good. I give it 3 stars out of four. > > > > The larger question, what I suppose matters the most on a group like this, > is was it good Trek? > > > > On this, I'm truly torn. > > > > First off, I knew they said get ready to forget everything you know about > Trek, but damn...I didn't know they were this serious! Thanks to that > Romulan ship coming through a black hole and killing Kirk's father, the > timeline that we know from that point on has been severed. The Butterfly > effect has created a host of new phenomenon--right down to a love affar > between Uhuru and Spock--which never seemed to exist before. This was a bold > and daring move. The writers of this new Trek world have an entire alternate > reality on their hands. They can do anything. And with Vulcans reduced to a > virtual minor colony the entire course of the Federation could be altered, > not to mention the balance of power in the Alpha Quadrant. They should call > this "Ultimate Star Trek!" There's a sense of loss here knowing that the > Trek reality that I've long called home no longer exists (or exists in some > other timeline). For all we know future figures like Picard might never have > been born. For the ! > first time I can recall, we have a Trek spin off that cannot fit into the > larger Trek universe. That will take some getting used to. > > > > > Second, where a part of me is concerned, is I'm trying to figure out where > this new story fits into Roddenberry's vision. Even with all its faults, the > original Trek world was one that took radical positions--a Russian main > character, a black main character, etc. I don't see this Trek taking any > such bold moves. I don't see a vision here, even as we stand in the midst of > a time almost as socially and politically challenging as the 1960s. Nothing > illustrated this more than seeing product placement ads for Nokia, Budweiser > and Jack Daniels. Pardon me for using a cross-sci-fi swear word, but "what > the frack!?!" Earth endures eugenics wars, a nuclear holocaust, a > post-atomic court of horrors, new regional powers (the Northern Alliance, > etc), and somehow Nokia emerges unscathed!?!? The Trek world I knew seemed > to always posit that humanity had come to the verge of destroying itself, > and upon First Contact, from the ashes of the old world they built a new > one--eliminat ing povert! > > y, war, hunger, disease and systems that move far beyond capitalism and > socialism. In this new Trek reality, I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk had a > credit card! Trek has often been faulted at being overly utopian in the > past, which I agreed could obscure reality. But this Trek has characters so > much like us, I don't understand how they can possibly be enlightened. > Normally Trek folks look back on our era the way we would at someone stepped > out of the 12th century. Can't see them however debating the philosophical > merits of the prime directive. > > > > My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't have some > universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of principles, but a > Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and the movie crowd can > clap on cue. 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