I'm sorry, you'll have to find out for yourself. Justin
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@lycos.com> wrote: > That's one constant I've been hearing in every review I've heard from people > who've seen this, that Urban's McCoy was truly a thing of beauty. One guy I > know even called it "channeling DeForrest Kelley". > > Spoil one thing for me, though. Does Urban-as-McCoy say The Line? > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 17:13:27 -0000 > > From : "B. Smith" <daikaij...@yahoo.com> > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Well I'm late to the party but I have to say that I really, really, really > enjoyed the new movie. It was definitely a good time at the movies and it > delivered in a big way. The people in the theater actually applauded at the > end the movie. > > I think all of the main actors did really well in their roles with the > exception of Eric Bana who was sort of just there. The biggest surprise for > me was Karl Urban taking the McCoy role and running with it. Simon Pegg was > hilarious as Scotty. Chris Pine was a fun, rakish young Kirk. I liked Zachary > Quinto's take on a younger less in control Spock. Zoe Saldana did a lot with > her role and the Spock-Uhura romance made sense in the altered timeline. > > One of my favorite bits was the scene with Kirk and Uhura's roomate. That got > a huge audience reaction. > > The fate of the Kelvin was an epic opening scene. And seeing the Enterprise > in space the first time was gretted with cheers of joy. > > One plot point I loved was that: > > S > P > O > I > E > R > S > > B > E > L > O > W > > Kirk's altered timeline was merely a side effect of Nero's quest to hurt > Spock for the destruction of Romulus. > > And I have to say seeing Kirk come onto the bridge in the gold tunic at the > end was just awesome. I marked out like a little kid when I saw that. > > I had my concerns about what Abrams and Co. were going to so but they knocked > out of the park. I'll definitely watch it again. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" wrote: >> >> Okay, Martin, I was with you all the way up to the Gabrielle Union in the >> "old school" Uhura uniform comment but, to paraphrase Ozzie Osbourne, you >> have just taken a ride on the bloody crazy train! >> >> (Uh, gentlemen, that Gabrielle Union home delivery of the DVD IS something I >> might be interested in!) >> >> ~rave! >> >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: >> > >> > Not even if you were to buy me the Special Edition DVD when it came out, >> > wrapped that in C-notes and had it hand-delivered to me by Gabrielle Union >> > in an old-school Uhura uniform. (Let 'em doubt my sincerity NOW.) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- >> > >> Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* >> > >> Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 16:14:32 -0700 >> > >> From : "Tracey de Morsella" >> > >> To : >> > >> > >> C’mon, not even on DVD, the Internet or cable? >> > >> > >> > >> > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On >> > Behalf Of Martin Baxter >> > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:39 PM >> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Fate, I'm on the record. Best I can do is to give it a lot of thought. In >> > recent months, I've resisted seeing a lot of movies I was told I *had* to >> > see, almost all of which turned out to be crap. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- >> > Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* >> > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 12:18:23 -0700 (PDT) >> > From : Augustus Augustus >> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > Martin, >> > >> > Tracey and Bosco are correct. Just go and see it and enjoy it for what >> > it's worth. my wife and i saw it last night, and we both liked it, and >> > trust me. when i saw she liked a sci-fi movie, that is a feat! >> > >> > Fate. >> > >> > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Tracey de Morsella wrote: >> > >> > From: Tracey de Morsella >> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* >> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 2:48 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Martin: >> > >> > Why can’t you see it absorb it, enjoy it if possible and then >> > come home and complain about the inconsistencies, Like Galactigus did >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com >> > [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bosco Bosco >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:01 AM >> > >> > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com >> > >> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Dude >> > >> > >> > >> > This movie is GREAT. Miss it if you must but it's GREAT. Did I mention it's >> > frakin GREAT. I really think you're cheating yourself by taking a stand >> > against without having seen it. Seriously. >> > >> > >> > >> > God that movie was GREAT. >> > >> > >> > >> > Bosco >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Martin Baxter >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > From: Martin Baxter >> > >> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* >> > >> > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com >> > >> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:45 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Adrianne, I've never thought of Doctor Who as a reboot, merely a >> > restart. The nature of the show itself allows for far more flexibility in >> > storytelling. The same can be said for Trek, but there are established >> > events that formed the show's collective mythos. IMO, those events are >> > being juggled, solely to make money. Yes, it's the Way of All Things. I >> > don't have to accept it. >> > >> > >> > >> > I won't. I'll NEVER see this movie, not on cable, not on free TV, not even >> > if someone were to send it to me, wrapped in C-notes. I'd send it right >> > back. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------[ Received Mail >> > Content ]---------- >> > >> > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* >> > >> > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 11:43:31 -0400 >> > >> > From : Adrianne Brennan >> > >> > To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com >> > >> > >> > >> > I dunno. I don't see what they're doing as being any different from the >> > >> > reboot of Doctor Who, except with more major canonical differences. >> > >> > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ >> > >> > http://www.adrianne brennan.com >> > >> > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: >> > >> > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html >> > >> > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: >> > >> > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html >> > >> > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: >> > >> > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > In a message dated 5/10/09 4:24:35 AM, sincere1906@ gmail.com writes: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't have >> > some >> > >> > > universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of principles, >> > but a >> > >> > > Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and the movie crowd >> > can >> > >> > > clap on cue. Too early to make that judgment before the next film, so >> > we'll >> > >> > > just have to wait and see... >> > >> > > >> > >> > > MHO >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Sin/Black Galactus >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I was about to stay silent on this but the paragraph above prompted me >> > to >> > >> > > put my .02 cents in. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > What Sin/Black Galactus stated is something I call "The Galactica >> > >> > >> > > Syndrome". That is you got a show based on a earlier project that >> > while >> > >> > > forming it's own audiance base is shunned by most-if not all of the >> > >> > > orignials show's base. Shows like this usually don't have that much of >> > a >> > >> > > long shelf-life being period 'flashes in the pan". >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Pre-new movie Star Trek (OST, ST:NG, ST:DS9, ST:V) while set either/or >> > >> > >> > > different time periods, situtations, characters, etc. could have went >> > this >> > >> > > way. Their was something about those shows (and the movies based on >> > them) >> > >> > > that fans from other shows could like and this brought in many fans >> > from >> > >> > > those shows. Which in turn made the great. However the flipside of >> > this is >> > >> > > that it produces 'lazy' exicution, that eventually results in bad >> > products >> > >> > > which angers and drives of the fans of those shows. Forcing efforts to >> > >> > >> > > bring new life into those shows. Sometimes successful, sometimes not. >> > It >> > >> > > depends on how much cannon they 'break' when doing it to make the show >> > >> > >> > > new/hip to make it acceptable to both new/old fans. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > This, IMO is why Enterprise was not well recieved by the pre-new movie >> > Star >> > >> > > Trek community. It broke too much cannon, and many of the stories >> > weren't >> > >> > > that good. Which is also why it didn't get that many new fans (IMO if >> > it >> > >> > > wasn't for the ST name Enterprise would have been canciled in it's >> > first >> > >> > > season). >> > >> > > >> > >> > > while the new Battlestar Galactica was a somewhat hit. It was not so >> > by >> > >> > > many fans of the old series who concider it broke too much cannon (and >> > the >> > >> > > fact it's creators also had 'lazy exicution' sydrome judging from it's >> > later >> > >> > > episodes) and this IMO the show will probally fade over time. And in >> > my >> > >> > > opinion I see the new Star Trek movie and it's alternate timeline will >> > while >> > >> > > finding intial popular support will eventually go the way of new BG as >> > it's >> > >> > > new fans will stick to this movie. While fans of pre-new movie ST will >> > >> > >> > > eventually ignore it and continue on, asking for more stuff in the >> > pre-new >> > >> > > movie ST background. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > But hey it's only my opinon. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > -GTW >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > ************ ** >> > >> > > The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 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