Nonononononono... I called first.
---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 17:01:11 -0000 From : "ravenadal" <ravena...@yahoo.com> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Okay, Martin, I was with you all the way up to the Gabrielle Union in the "old school" Uhura uniform comment but, to paraphrase Ozzie Osbourne, you have just taken a ride on the bloody crazy train! (Uh, gentlemen, that Gabrielle Union home delivery of the DVD IS something I might be interested in!) ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: > > Not even if you were to buy me the Special Edition DVD when it came out, > wrapped that in C-notes and had it hand-delivered to me by Gabrielle Union in > an old-school Uhura uniform. (Let 'em doubt my sincerity NOW.) > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 16:14:32 -0700 > From : "Tracey de Morsella" > To : > > Câmon, not even on DVD, the Internet or cable? > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Martin Baxter > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:39 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > > > > > > > Fate, I'm on the record. Best I can do is to give it a lot of thought. In > recent months, I've resisted seeing a lot of movies I was told I *had* to > see, almost all of which turned out to be crap. > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 12:18:23 -0700 (PDT) > From : Augustus Augustus > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Martin, > > Tracey and Bosco are correct. Just go and see it and enjoy it for what it's > worth. my wife and i saw it last night, and we both liked it, and trust me. > when i saw she liked a sci-fi movie, that is a feat! > > Fate. > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Tracey de Morsella wrote: > > From: Tracey de Morsella > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 2:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin: > > Why canât you see it absorb it, enjoy it if possible and then > come home and complain about the inconsistencies, Like Galactigus did > > > > > > > > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bosco Bosco > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:01 AM > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude > > > > This movie is GREAT. Miss it if you must but it's GREAT. Did I mention it's > frakin GREAT. I really think you're cheating yourself by taking a stand > against without having seen it. Seriously. > > > > God that movie was GREAT. > > > > Bosco > > > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > From: Martin Baxter > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:45 PM > > > > > > > Adrianne, I've never thought of Doctor Who as a reboot, merely a > restart. The nature of the show itself allows for far more flexibility in > storytelling. The same can be said for Trek, but there are established > events that formed the show's collective mythos. IMO, those events are > being juggled, solely to make money. Yes, it's the Way of All Things. I > don't have to accept it. > > > > I won't. I'll NEVER see this movie, not on cable, not on free TV, not even > if someone were to send it to me, wrapped in C-notes. I'd send it right > back. > > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail > Content ]---------- > > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 11:43:31 -0400 > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > > > I dunno. I don't see what they're doing as being any different from the > > reboot of Doctor Who, except with more major canonical differences. > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > http://www.adrianne brennan.com > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath > > > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/10/09 4:24:35 AM, sincere1906@ gmail.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't have > some > > > universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of principles, > but a > > > Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and the movie crowd > can > > > clap on cue. Too early to make that judgment before the next film, so > we'll > > > just have to wait and see... > > > > > > MHO > > > > > > Sin/Black Galactus > > > > > > > > > I was about to stay silent on this but the paragraph above prompted me > to > > > put my .02 cents in. > > > > > > What Sin/Black Galactus stated is something I call "The Galactica > > > > Syndrome". That is you got a show based on a earlier project that > while > > > forming it's own audiance base is shunned by most-if not all of the > > > orignials show's base. Shows like this usually don't have that much of > a > > > long shelf-life being period 'flashes in the pan". > > > > > > Pre-new movie Star Trek (OST, ST:NG, ST:DS9, ST:V) while set either/or > > > > different time periods, situtations, characters, etc. could have went > this > > > way. Their was something about those shows (and the movies based on > them) > > > that fans from other shows could like and this brought in many fans > from > > > those shows. Which in turn made the great. However the flipside of > this is > > > that it produces 'lazy' exicution, that eventually results in bad > products > > > which angers and drives of the fans of those shows. Forcing efforts to > > > > bring new life into those shows. Sometimes successful, sometimes not. > It > > > depends on how much cannon they 'break' when doing it to make the show > > > > new/hip to make it acceptable to both new/old fans. > > > > > > This, IMO is why Enterprise was not well recieved by the pre-new movie > Star > > > Trek community. It broke too much cannon, and many of the stories > weren't > > > that good. Which is also why it didn't get that many new fans (IMO if > it > > > wasn't for the ST name Enterprise would have been canciled in it's > first > > > season). > > > > > > while the new Battlestar Galactica was a somewhat hit. It was not so > by > > > many fans of the old series who concider it broke too much cannon (and > the > > > fact it's creators also had 'lazy exicution' sydrome judging from it's > later > > > episodes) and this IMO the show will probally fade over time. And in > my > > > opinion I see the new Star Trek movie and it's alternate timeline will > while > > > finding intial popular support will eventually go the way of new BG as > it's > > > new fans will stick to this movie. While fans of pre-new movie ST will > > > > eventually ignore it and continue on, asking for more stuff in the > pre-new > > > movie ST background. > > > > > > But hey it's only my opinon. > > > > > > > > > -GTW > > > > > > > > > ************ ** > > > The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 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