Re: (313) K Hand

2003-07-23 Thread Ian
I've always been partial to Come on Now Baby on Beyond the Third Wave
(Astralwerks).  Do You Love Me on Pure Filth works well into a mix too.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/K-Hand

On 7/23/03 12:17 PM, J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i like one k hand track out of all i've heard - the one on True Spirit. it's
 beautiful. did any of the early acacia stuff approach anything like that?
 the later stuff sure didnt seem to...any tips kj?
 
 Well if you think that 'Detroit History' is outstanding, you probably think
 that her other material is brilliant, personally i think that Detroit
 History is a horrible album and one of the worst Tresor records in a long
 time but i do love her early material on Acacia, especially the house stuff
 she did.
 
 KJ
 
 
 On woensdag, jul 23, 2003, at 17:43 Europe/Amsterdam, Cobert, Gwendal
 wrote:
 
 Currently digging through not-so-recent Tresor releases - this K Hand's
 album, Detroit History, is really good... funky, a bit industrial, gritty,
 tons of nice ideas, absolutely perfect for my tastes in techno... I also
 really liked her K7! appearances ; I've seen on Discogs.com that she has
 plenty of releases on Ausfahrt, are they as good ? and are the 12 on
 Acacia worth tracking down, I already have the Acacia classics vol 1 CD ?
 Gwendal



Re: (313) the B-52´s (Was: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds)

2003-07-28 Thread Ian
On 7/28/03 11:48 AM, Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And does anyone why carl craig put mesopotamia on his obsessive
 compilation, and why theo parrish also plays this track? Is it in someway
 related to 313?

Just part of the wonderful mix of hot tunes in Detroit at the time.

Dan Sicko made an interesting point in one of his presentations (and I
paraphrase) the black kids were all learning how to sing the backing wails
from Mesopotamia, while the white kids were learning how to chant
Bow-wow-wow Yipee Yo Yipee Yay!
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Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of (performing)

2003-08-02 Thread Ian
On 8/1/03 10:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe it is just a LiteBrite - but if my LiteBrite allowed me to manipulate
 music by moving colorful glowing pegs around on a board - hell yeah, I'd
 use it. ;D

Similar, say, to the massive patch bays that Tangerine Dream used to plug
pegs in and out of circa 1973?   ;-)(Minus the glow of course.)
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Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Ian
On 8/7/03 9:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 It ain't nothing new and if it hasnt set
 the world alight in 12 years I can't see CDs becoming the new vinyl in a hurry

I'm not arguing against Stewart, but you do have to recognize that one of
the things that has changed significantly in the last 12 years is the ease
and low-cost of burning _anything_ you desire to a CD.  This gives the
format more appeal for some.

How much do dub plates cost nowadays?
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(313) First song with power on...

2003-08-16 Thread Ian
Royal Oak Michigan
7:07pm

Electric Kingdom

Ah, sweet music...
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Re: (313) playlist WNUR Chicago - 22 August 2003

2003-08-29 Thread Ian
I haven't danced so hard reading a playlist in a long time.  My compliments
to the Doctor.  Was this recorded, by chance?
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On 8/29/03 9:59 AM, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Clinically Inclined
 22 August 2003
 10:30pm - 1:00am CDT
 live stream www.wnur.org during showtime / 89.3 FM in Chicago
 
 
 10:30pm - 11:30pmMatt MacQueen
 
 jeff mills - untitled C - 009 F - axis
 causes and forces - backlash - soil.sole ep - moving
 macho cat garage - pus*y jazz - the muffler strut - down low
 raiders of the lost arp -  funk 005 (original mix) - Pigna
 gerald mitchell - celestial highways - metroplex
 TV-99-AD - koffie is a dj - follow the beat - techno tourists
 dark energy - black strategy - hidden in plain sight - ur
 splinterfaction - ultrasim ep - digital soul
 arne weinberg - beauty in decay  - beauty in decay - down low
 peter ford - ambo - untitled - ifach
 sb project - xtra edit 2 - the message ep - cosmic
 sb project - xtra edit 1 - the message ep - cosmic
 dj flint - bang  skeet - i owe some people money - dance mania
 bc basstronic - vol. 2 - secret mixes/fixes
 jeff mills - ride the rhythm - steampit ep - purpose maker
 jeff mills - the fly guy - our man in havana - purpose maker
 rhythim is rhythim - beyond the dance (bizarro mix) - transmat
 balil - nort route - planet e
 
 
 11:30pm - 1:00amdr. siska
 
 rhythim is rhythim - strings of life (buzz/transmat)
 soofle - how do you plead? (fragile)
 steve tang - overcast - travelling down a different avenue (emphasis)
 sterac - intersphere - get lost (multiplex)
 terry brookes - mindmachine - breaking cycles (deepart)
 substance - centralized - central remixed pt 6 (central)
 moodymann - silence in the secret garden (peacefrog)
 madcap - balk acid - third person (music for speakers)
 electric birds - stem - strata ep (inc.us)
 pub - surgery (ampoule)
 taksi - dezent (taksi)
 maurizio - m7 (m)
 photek - t-raenon (version) (op-art)
 derrick may - wildtime rmx
 reese  santonio - the sound (kms)
 
 
 peace
 



Re: (313) Recommend...

2003-09-12 Thread Ian
On 9/12/03 12:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Future Sounds of Jazz vol 3 (I think that's the new one - comes with little
 3D glasses) - got eveything from jazzy techno to deep techno
 
 it's on Compost

The latest is vol. 9, with the glasses.  I've not heard it yet, but the
series overall is quite nice.
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Re: (313) OT: Moby

2003-09-18 Thread Ian
Save your money.  Listen to your favorite 313 tunes and visit here:

http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/saishin-e.html


On 9/18/03 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dude - it's like Laser Loggins!
 
 MEK
 
 
  
 Jari Tolkkinen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   313
 313@hyperreal.org
 nt.oulu.fi cc:
 Subject:  (313) OT: Moby
 09/18/03 11:57 AM
  
 
 A bit offtopic (hey it's the latest craze right?):
 
 http://www.amnh.org/rose/dome/?src=h_h
 
 Where is that planetarium anyway?



Re: (313) Acid Jazz discog?

2003-11-17 Thread Ian
On 11/17/03 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Slow day on the list
 looking for a discography of Acid Jazz records - anyone know where I can
 find one (for the label - not the genre)?

http://www.acidjazz.co.uk/cat.htm
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Re: (313) Kraftwerk UK Eire Tour

2003-11-25 Thread Ian
On 11/24/03 12:58 PM, Tom Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just wondering where the 'Werk might hang out on their Friday off in London?
 Any ideas? :-)

Judging by the Detroit show...anywhere there's a velvet rope, pool table,
good cocktails, and nubile young ladies for hire.  Motor anyone?  :)
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(313) Need PF recommendation

2003-12-07 Thread Ian
I'm taking advantage of the peacefrog.com 3 for 2 CD deal, and wanted advice
on which of the following you folks would consider most essential (mind
you--I have most of the PF releases not listed here):

Anthony Nicholson - Dance Anthology Volume 2 (PF089CD)
Charles Webster - Born On The 24th Of July (PF097CD)
Chris Brann - Deep Fall (PF071CD)
David Alvarado - Mayasongs (PFG010CD)
Furry Phreaks - Want Me (Like Water) (PFG006CD)
Neil Landstrumm - Brown By August (PF040CD)
Norma Jean Bell - Come Into My Room (PFG15CD)
Paul Johnson - Bump Talkin (PF041CD)
Paul Johnson - Feel The Music (PF056CD)
Planetary Assault Systems - Atomic Funkster (PFG008CD)
Stasis - Inspiration (PF028CD)
Stasis - From the old to the new (PF046CD)
Underground Evolution - Primordial Passage (PF090CD)
Various Artists - Deletions Vol. 1 (PFEC01)
Wamdue Kids - These Branching Moments (PF059CD)

Thanks, and keep those best of 2003 lists comin'!
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Re: AW: (313) Theo Parrish Mix

2003-12-09 Thread Ian
On 12/9/03 1:02 PM, Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 can anyone help out with the track-id of the last track theo's playing
 in part2? it's the original beyoncé and jay-z used for crazy in love,
 as far as i know it's from the chi-lites, but which track?

Are You My Woman? (Tell Me So) - 1970
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Re: (313) various

2003-12-16 Thread Ian
On 12/15/03 11:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jezebel Spirit by
 Brian Eno and David Byrne from My Life in the Bush of Ghosts. The Jezebel
 Spiritre-edit is really really good.

I am very intrigued by this.  Any non-vinyl way to hear it?
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Re: (313) various

2003-12-16 Thread Ian
On 12/16/03 12:07 AM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 12/15/03 11:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jezebel Spirit by
 Brian Eno and David Byrne from My Life in the Bush of Ghosts. The Jezebel
 Spiritre-edit is really really good.
 
 I am very intrigued by this.  Any non-vinyl way to hear it?

I mean the re-edit of course.  Got the original 21 years ago.  Still
brilliant.
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Re: (313) Detroit Technology archives

2003-12-23 Thread Ian
On 12/22/03 6:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 shame they don't have the final technology program. the one where carl got
 all drunk and talked smack for an hour. and i think he playeda little
 music.

Also conspicuously missing is the Paris the Black Fu and the Undercity
Dwellers edition.  This was during Paris's first big
Detroit-Techno-takes-itself-too-seriously phase.  I believe little if any
music was played, just an hour of Black Fu craziness, with Brian G and
Billeebob in the mix.  As I recall it pissed more than a few people off at
the time.
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 on 23/12/03 6:23 AM, Matt MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Every once and awhile you stumble across some nice web archives from
 the past that didn't get rinsed out when a server crashed or a domain
 name expired or a start-up folded (R.I.P.  Groovetech)... but here are
 some good Real Audio sets from the Detroit Technology show from 1999
 
 http://www.theplayground.com/static_music/



Re: [313] closer to the edit tour

2001-08-21 Thread Ian
on 8/21/01 4:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Richie Hawtin will go on tour to promote his new ´closer to the edit´ album:

 October 30, 2001 - Birmingham, UK
 October 31, 2001 - L Enfer Club Paris, France

Well.  No Jak'O'Lantern for Devils' Night.  What will the trick-or-treaters
do this year?  
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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-22 Thread Ian
on 8/21/01 8:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well?

I have heard of Prince referred to as Little Richard Hendryx, the black
Bowie, and Repo-Elvis before, but I don't think he's the tap root of techno.
A major feeder line maybe.

Consider that Mojo played a lot of Prince to a Detroit radio audience that
was especially appreciative.  Prince proved the P-funk hypothesis.

Some building block tracks might include Controversy and Erotic City, but
there is that whole rock star thing that isn't quite in line with
techno...

You feelin' alright Mike?
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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread Ian
on 8/23/01 6:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for example, I recently learned that Alleys of Your Mind is just Dr. No
 by Ultravox and what were they into?? It sounds like funk to me as one source.

You must mean Mr. X, off of Vienna (1980).  Classic New Wave.
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[313] Live shows

2001-08-30 Thread Ian
I'm a bit surprised no one mentioned the Metro Area set at the SereNgeti
Ballroom post DEMF.  Awesome tight sound and a beauty of a mid-tempo groove.
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Re: [313] i win

2001-09-19 Thread Ian
on 9/18/01 6:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 theo parrish's 'summertime is here' is based around a sample from sun ra's
 'that's how i feel' from the arkestra's lanquidity album!

Still looking to find this Sun Ra release in CD format online.  Any tips?
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[313] Magazine Fodder

2001-10-02 Thread Ian
Check the latest issue of Hour magazine to see what fashion templates Paris,
Stacey, Derrick, Carl, and Godfather (!) are wearing this fall.

And congrats to Derrick May for making Crain's Detroit Business Top 40 under
40.
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Re: [313] Magazine Fodder

2001-10-04 Thread Ian
on 10/4/01 11:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tell us more. What is Hour magazine?

Their website is under construction, but there are a couple of opinions
here:
http://www.epinions.com/mags-Hour_Detroit_Magazine

Basically Hour is a glossy oversized monthly about Detroit and it's suburbs,
funded by ads from fur stores and plastic surgeons.

Not the place you typically see photos of underground dj's...
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Re: [313] UR question

2002-01-15 Thread Ian
on 1/15/02 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 techno question: do you know which UR/X-102 record it is that has the
 sample of the guy talking about the big bang, that starts off: four
 and one-half billion years ago, the planets were formed in a great
 cloud of swirling gas and dust alan oldham/t-1000 used to play it
 on wdet, but i don't know the name of it... ?

X-102 Disvovers the Rings of Saturn   Tresor-4
The intro is not on the CD.  Classic Early 90s banging proto-trance
Hood/Mills material, complete with orchestra Stabs, and 'ardcore pitch
modulated sawtooth waves.  Titan, C-Ring, and Ground Zero (Alan used
to kick this hard) are favorite tracks from the CD.
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Re: [313] Larry Heard

2002-01-21 Thread Ian
on 1/20/02 10:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The only thing I know by  Larry Heard is the CD Dance 2000 Part 2.   It's
  interesting work.  Are the other CD's like that?

Sherman, it's time for the Way-Back machine...

Your best bet might be to find his Les Parrains de la House compilation on
a French label.  May still be in print.  Larry's output as Mr. Fingers and
Fingers Inc. was instrumental in the heady days of Chicago acid house, in
the late 80s.  Many of these tracks can still kick in the right hands...

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=Aryf4zfsoeh4k

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Re: [313] stacey pullen - electric relaxation

2002-01-24 Thread Ian
on 1/24/02 5:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's melancholy but upbeat at the same time ... By the way, cd owners, do
 you find that it is 'quieter' than normal, certainly than more recent stuf
 you may have, or do I have a (audio!) equipment problem?

More likely related to EQ than  anything.  The CD release does not appear to
be lower in overall volume, but has tons of high frequency stuff, and is
pretty soft on the bass end.   If your system is geared in the opposite
fashion, or if you simply dig bass, it might appear to be quieter than other
CDs.
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Re: [313] Kirk Degorgio

2002-01-24 Thread Ian
on 1/24/02 11:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 anyone can point me for a good degiorgio mix on the net?

I've been unsuccessful here, but you owe it to yourself to hunt down the
Checkone mix compilation (2CDs) he did.  Lovely stuff.
1997: x:treme records xtr22cdm
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Re: [313] change the style!

2002-01-28 Thread Ian
on 1/27/02 11:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (apologies to Son of Bazerk)
 
 All this talk of Mills and house just made me remember when he was making
 industrial music ...
 
erm...weren't there a few early hip-hop releases on those Wizard sets, too?

My favorite dj sets ever have been those when someone decided to break rules
and spin outside the genre lines.  After all, it's called a mix for a
reason right?
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Re: [313] about the members

2002-01-31 Thread Ian
Why not?
Me:
36 years young
Manage web development for Big 3 automaker
Detroit metro
Rampant techno CD collector
313 subscriber for 7 years

Let me see your list elders!
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Re: [313] about the members

2002-02-03 Thread Ian
on 2/3/02 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remember getting into an argument on the IDM-l with someone who couldn't
 understand why anyone into IDM would find James Brown relevant.

I hope you didn't miss the opportunity to remind them of Lassigue Bendthaus
and the covers on Pop Artificielle.

ob313 tie-in--Carl Craig drops this on his onsumotahasheeat mix comp, and
the crowd at DEMF 2  went nuts when I:Cube brought SuperBad in to the mix.
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[313] Turntablism on NPR

2002-02-08 Thread Ian
If you are interested, you can hear online an NPR radio piece on Turntablism
live on 

www.wdetfm.org

or archived about 5 hours from now on

www.npr.org

The piece may begin in a few minutes from now (approx. 17:10pm EST)
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Re: [313] broken beat/nu jazz mxes?

2002-02-11 Thread Ian
on 2/8/02 8:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know if there are any mix CDs commercially available within this
 very loose genre?

Over a nice meal, Otto turned me onto the Truby Trio DJ Kicks CD.  Review
here:

http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/t/trubytrio-dj.html

Unrelated but also worthwhile is the Kirk Degiorgio Check One mix on two CDS
from 1996.  I think it was released on Applied Rhythmic Technology.
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Re: [313] gary numan

2002-02-13 Thread Ian
on 2/13/02 9:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i was listening to telekon last night and even more impressed than usual,
 have any 313 artists used obvious numan samples? i know there were a
 collection of remixes that came out about 4/5 years ago - the only one i
 remember is dave clarkes cars.

Personally, I'd like to lobby for a Designer Music version of  We Are So
Fragile or Films.

Samplespotter.com only lists two instances of the use of Cars--Armand Van
Helden's Koochi and Ma$e's No Matter What.
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Re: [313] Fw: Hall Oates

2002-02-14 Thread Ian
on 2/14/02 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At any rate, there have been a few apparently unauthorized Hall  Oates
 remixes over the years. I have one that samples I can't go for that,
 taking mostly the bassline, and heavilly filtering the vocal. Disco Dubs
 Volume 1 was the name of the record, with a green label in a clear plastic
 sleeve. 

Check Assault's Sex on the Beach for another fine use of this sample.
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Re: [313] tod sines and charles noel.

2002-02-15 Thread Ian
on 2/15/02 5:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 todd sines...all i have to say is go see him any opportunity you have...his
 live pa is phenomenal in my personal opinion.

I seem to recall that paxahau.com has live and dj sets by Mr. Sines from
October 2000.  Check the archives.  And I've enjoyed every set I've heard by
Charles--great guys.
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Re: [313] fortina recordings.

2002-02-15 Thread Ian
on 2/15/02 5:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 did any one knows anything about them? klaus nomi?
 y.

I know nothing about Fortina.  Berlin label maybe?

Klaus Nomi gets name checked quite a bit by the Euro-Disco and Italo aware.
He was a pretty out there German performance artist in NY in the early
eighties.  Great operatic falsetto take on some cover tunes.  I think he may
have recorded a version of I Feel Love.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=B9hpsa9lgb23k
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Re: [313] DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin

2002-02-18 Thread Ian
on 2/18/02 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Incidentally, any updates on when the film on the first DEMF is coming out?
 Or has it shown already?

Rita from Pilot Pictures responded to this question at the Cranbrook seminar
a couple weeks ago.  It seems that legal clearances are the last stumbling
blocks to getting a distributor for The Drive Home (www.thedrivehome.net).
When you have footage of a DJ spinning at an event like this, you need to
get clearances from not only the DJ, but every owner of every track that is
being played.  Ever stop to think how many tracks got played at the DEMF?

We saw a 15 min preview of the film, and it looks rewarding (although a bit
more hip-hop was featured in that 15 mins. than I expected).  I'm looking
forward to the release.

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Re: [313] Electroclash rant/discussion ?s

2002-04-04 Thread Ian
on 4/3/02 9:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It doesn't surprise me that this is booming in NYC. A city that is a revolving
 door for fads,fashions and anything seeming European.
 
 Or perhaps I'm just taking it all too seriously.
 

No, you're taking it like Detroiter.  Despite the underground re-cycling
aesthetic that birthed it, this is already smacking of marketing.  Is
electro-clash the new electronica?  Let's see.  Funny that a
preponderance of New York's new invention came from Detroit.

Adult. now will have to work that much harder to stay on the fringe.
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Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up

2002-04-12 Thread Ian
on 4/12/02 12:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any news of internet broadcast? (pleease let it be so)

This would require the support and funding of a sponsor (a la Ford in 2001,
and Groovetech in 2000).  Unsure yet about who might have the resources this
year.
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Re: [313] boom

2002-04-12 Thread Ian
on 4/12/02 1:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh, and George Clinton closing the main stage on Sunday from 10.00pm
 onwards: that means he's only got two hours, barely his warmup time! Expect
 the main stage to remain open until 2am at least...

Well, there's always the weather factor, which can definitely affect timing.
;-)

I saw the P-Funk show last night.  Laid-back and in yo face at the same
time.  Hell, the band grooved almost an hour before George even appeared on
stage to do a little Cosmic Slop.  Bop-Gun, Flashlight, If anybody gets
funked up, Atomic Dog--all the faves.  Should be a highlight of the festival
at any rate.
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Re: [313] watch eminem video online

2002-05-07 Thread Ian
On 5/7/02 2:25 PM, scotto you know [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 with all the talk about eminem lately on the list about his video I found a
 link. it's very batman.
 
 http://launch.yahoo.com/destinations/promotions/eminem/

Sorry, but you cannot use this application on a Macintosh.

Intolerant MF.
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Re: [313] Trance Atlantic vol 1 CD

2002-05-13 Thread Ian
On 5/13/02 5:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone else have
 other TEX/TA box sets still sitting in their collections?

Got em all.  I remember being soundly ridiculed by friends when I forked
over my Record Time allowance on these.  Regardless, there are a few
unreleased gems (Eddie Fowlkes' Lodge Freeway) hidden among the throwaways
(Wink's Just a Track).  Funny how Trance wasn't such a shameful term
back then.  The booklets are interesting documents of the times as well.

Thanks for the reminder.  I guess I'll be reliving the early nineties for a
few days now.
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Re: [313] This funny

2002-05-15 Thread Ian
On 5/14/02 5:50 PM, Matthew L. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW... the URL for DEMF 2000 (www.demf.org) doesn't point to a site
 anywhere, but is registered to someone named Jani Anderson in Detroit?  Is
 this someone on the list?

Jani Anderson was one of the founders of Sigma6, a digital artists
consortium in Detroit from 1995-1999.  The company survived corporate
acquisitions and the bursting dot-com bubble--now operating as i33
Communications, doing large scale web sites and complex net applications for
happy clients.

313 Relevance?  Check the archives.  Jani, now no longer with the company,
heads up OMOA Records in Detroit.  i33 continues to volunteer its services
on the DEMF website, in no small part because it has a passion for the music
and the community.
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RE: [313] now Caberet + Detroit/ UR at DEMF

2002-05-21 Thread Ian
I think Sean nailed the definition on the head a few posts 
ago. Cabarets are popular among the older crowd in Detroit. 
Rather than having to spend their Friday and Saturday nights 
dancing with 18 year old kids at the club, they rent out 
spaces throughout the city and create their own party. Like 
Sean said getting all dressed up and B.Y.O.B'n it. Dancing 
all night long to old school and house, and most recently 
booty.

So, UR having their own cabaret doesnt seem that far fetched, 
they are just providing a place for the older crowd ( not 
necessarily age-wise, but maybe widsom-wise, i.e. not raver 
kids) to do their thing Friday night.


ID
 Original message 
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:42:02 +0100
From: Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: [313] now Caberet + Detroit/  UR at DEMF  
To: 313@hyperreal.org

Apols if this is FAQ type of questionive seen a few 
referances to detroit techno/electro and caberet... I think 
someone once wrote/said'to truly understand bootie, you 
have to understand the Detroit caberet scene' but I have 
never understood the link

just to clarify my understanding...in the UK a caberet 
act would be old crooners in tuxes and ladies dressed in 
glittery custumes doing song and dance...all glitz and 
glamour...sort of thing youd find on a world cruise...uk 
ppl...Jane Macdonald anyone ? arf !!

...I mean UR at a caberet (as i undersatnd it) seems 
surreal...Hope I dont sound like a crazy foo'..

So the question iswhats a caberet in Detroit ??

Rav

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 From:keleigh casper [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent:Monday, May 20, 2002 9:36 PM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: [313] UR at DEMF
 
 there are two UR events. a cabaret friday night and FOR 
THOSE WHO KNOW II 
 saturday night--with the location for the sat event being 
announced friday 
 at the cabaret.
 
 
 

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RE: [313] now Caberet + Detroit/ UR at DEMF

2002-05-21 Thread Ian
I think Sean nailed the definition on the head a few posts 
ago. Cabarets are popular among the older crowd in Detroit. 
Rather than having to spend their Friday and Saturday nights 
dancing with 18 year old kids at the club, they rent out 
spaces throughout the city and create their own party. Like 
Sean said getting all dressed up and B.Y.O.B'n it. Dancing 
all night long to old school and house, and most recently 
booty.

So, UR having their own cabaret doesnt seem that far fetched, 
they are just providing a place for the older crowd ( not 
necessarily age-wise, but maybe widsom-wise, i.e. not raver 
kids) to do their thing Friday night.


ID
 Original message 
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:42:02 +0100
From: Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: [313] now Caberet + Detroit/  UR at DEMF  
To: 313@hyperreal.org

Apols if this is FAQ type of questionive seen a few 
referances to detroit techno/electro and caberet... I think 
someone once wrote/said'to truly understand bootie, you 
have to understand the Detroit caberet scene' but I have 
never understood the link

just to clarify my understanding...in the UK a caberet 
act would be old crooners in tuxes and ladies dressed in 
glittery custumes doing song and dance...all glitz and 
glamour...sort of thing youd find on a world cruise...uk 
ppl...Jane Macdonald anyone ? arf !!

...I mean UR at a caberet (as i undersatnd it) seems 
surreal...Hope I dont sound like a crazy foo'..

So the question iswhats a caberet in Detroit ??

Rav

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 From:keleigh casper [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent:Monday, May 20, 2002 9:36 PM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: [313] UR at DEMF
 
 there are two UR events. a cabaret friday night and FOR 
THOSE WHO KNOW II 
 saturday night--with the location for the sat event being 
announced friday 
 at the cabaret.
 
 
 

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[313] Most Played Track at DEMF

2002-05-25 Thread Ian
If I had to pick (and I don't really),

Janet Jackson/feat. Carly Simon, You're So Vain

And it has a funky beat--I can really bug-out to it.
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[313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-27 Thread Ian
On 5/27/02 12:56 PM, Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Radioboy/Herbert was totally mad, destroying products from corporate Icons
 like McDonalds, Gap, and Starbuck. I think he was using the Roland VP sampler,
 live to sample in his acts of mayhem.  His hyperactive, lurching stage
 presence was riveting to watch.

Agreed.  As Radioboy, Herbert may have the most mercurial stage prescence
I've seen.  The delight you feel is the unbridled joy of destroying those
Icons.  To be honest, I disliked the Radioboy material as downloads, but the
tracks really come to life when you see the performance, and realize how
subject to chance the sounds are.

 And Richie Hawtin has nothing on him for
 volume. I had foam plugs in and it was still loud.  I thought something was
 falling from the ceiling and hitting my forhead, but it was the sound from the
 PA hitting my skin.

I'm not too sure about this.  Linda and I managed to score double-sided
passes and crept off to watch Rich from his stage for an hour or so.  I
should have taken you up on the plugs, Kent.

Control was the archetypal Richie Hawtin experience.  The smoke and blue
strobes remove your visual sense, the volume effectively renders your ears
useless.  All you're left with is the intensity of the bass, which regulates
your breathing, and Richie deciding when you inhale and exhale.  This forced
surrender was fun for me once, but it left me a little cold last night.
There literally was no tonal content, and very little variation in the
beats.  From my perspective, no real groove or funk.
 
 Shake was Shake, which is to say a just about perfect musicians' DJ.  He
 was all over the place genre-wise but always with an ear for heartbreakingly
 beautiful melody.

I knew I missed something while I was next door.  Dammit!  Fortunately, when
we left at about 6am, we decided to pop back in to see how Carl was wrapping
things up.  Stevie Wonder's Another Star was the perfect antidote for my
mood, and a great melody to have ringing around in your head as the morning
sun illuminates the sewer steam on the drive home through Detroit.
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Re: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-29 Thread Ian
On 5/29/02 5:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A few years ago, the city (or maybe even state) condemned the earth (not
 the building- but the actual land) as toxic.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/PHA/packard/pac_p1.html
 
 Think about that and all the late nights we spent sitting on the Packard
 floor. Ouch!

Anyone who was there is familiar with the term Packard Sneeze.
Gross.

Here's the freep articles:
http://detnews.com/2000/detroit/0011/22/s06-151894.htm
http://detnews.com/2000/detroit/0011/22/s06-151895.htm

And more:
http://www.motorcitylives.com/packard1.html
http://detroityes.com/industry/indpacdoor.htm

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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread Ian
On 5/29/02 10:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 4:41 PM -0400 5/29/02, scotto wrote:
 also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic techno
 not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
 lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
 for like 3 or 4 minutes.
 
 not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'.
 Link is actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of
 them.  it's a track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of
 his favorite records.

Thank you so much for this ID.  I don't care if Rich played it Monday, but
I've heard it at *so* many parties and always wondered what it was.

Audiogalaxy is nice.  (this is usually where someone points out that I
already own it on a CD comp...)
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(313) My Culture..My Music...

2003-01-10 Thread Ian
Damn,

I guess its time to take those Leroy Burgess and Patrick 
Adams records I have down to Record Time, and trade them in 
for some Lynyrd Skynyrd and Whitesnake records. You know. For 
some stuff I can feel.

ID


(313) Mayday (or Labor Day)

2003-01-17 Thread Ian
Techno star Derrick May has been offered a contract to produce the Detroit
Electronic Music Festival, the Free Press has learned. 

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/newsandreviews/dmf17_20030117.htm
-- 
Ian



Re: (313) Mayday (or Labor Day)

2003-01-17 Thread Ian
Scratch that subject line.  It should have read Mayday (or Memorial Day).
Guess who's over-excited?

On 1/17/03 7:50 AM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Techno star Derrick May has been offered a contract to produce the Detroit
 Electronic Music Festival, the Free Press has learned. 
 
 http://www.freep.com/entertainment/newsandreviews/dmf17_20030117.htm



Re: (313) Mayday / DEMF / Memorial

2003-01-17 Thread Ian
On 1/17/03 2:49 PM, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Maybe we'll get a better poster for it too. I say
 it's time Kenji got to respresent detroit.

WORD.



Re: (313) more demf stuff...

2003-01-28 Thread Ian
On 1/28/03 7:27 AM, Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Metrotimes also has an article about this:
 http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518
 
 A spokesman of Kilpatrick says:
 
 If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit
 International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation.

D.I.E.M.F.?
Die M-F?

That's precious.



RE: (313) sleep music

2003-01-28 Thread Ian
Alot of the titles mentioned are very sleepy,

However, has anyone mentioned DeepChord?
I find their production to be very relaxing.

Maybe I am too rhythmic of a sleeper. :)


ID


 Original message 
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:42:07 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: (313) sleep music  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org

Can I second Black Buildings most heartily, heard the 
*whole* album 
recently rather than the vinyl EP and it is awesome (thanks 
Ken), 
does anyone know if the whole album got a vinyl release?

Records I have inspected the inside of my eyelids to:

Global Communication - Remotion
FSOL - Lifeforms
Doc Scott - Mixmag Live (mentioned earlier in the DB 
discussion)
Steve Reich - Drumming
Fripp  Eno - Evening Star
KLF - Chill Out
Mills - Every Dog Has It's Day Vol. 3
Lonnie Listion Smith - Visions Of A New World

The last one is also amazing if you're tripping heavily 
(.I'm told)

BTW, does anyone have any contact details for Alex Patterson?

Dan


The boy and the Tree - Susumu Yokata
Black Buidlings - Detroit Esc Company

both can be amazingly complex and and on another listen  
quite minimal and
simple, i think it depends on how your brain is wired at 
the moment of
listening. but i cant sleep with music on. If anyone has 
any further
recomendations of Susumu Yokata I would gratefully receive 
them.

Many Thanks

Rav


(313) DEMF

2003-01-30 Thread Ian
Maybe thats the solution!

If the city wants to make money off of the DEMF, perhaps they 
should step in and schedule a few prize fights on the main 
stage. You know, Vegas it up a bit.

Scheduled Bouts:

Carol Marvelous Marvin V. Carl Intergalatic Craig

Heavyweight Bout:
Kwame Kilpatrick V. Tommy Hearns (I'd pay to see this one)

And then top it off with:

The Creative Rumble

6 man tag team match featuring last years Creative Board V. 
This year's team. (Beware of a few heels!)

Can anyone tell how busy I am at work?


ID


Re: (313) wdet?

2003-02-24 Thread Ian
On 2/24/03 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 what's up w/ wdet internet broadcasting?
 
 they are repeating some message over and over but i can't really understand

http://www.wdetfm.org/content/listen_live.php

No more streaming music.  Blame the RIAA.
--
im



(313) Re: WDET no longer webcasting

2003-02-25 Thread Ian
Liz Copeland from WDET-FM asked that I direct anybody concerned about the
station's recent webcasting freeze to her site for an update:

http://www.audiointerference.com/

Included are links to contact your elected officials to protest.

Liz also asked me to pass along her appreciation to any of you who have
enjoyed the stream in the past, tuning in from outside the SE Michigan
radius.

Even more here for those interested:
http://www.rice.edu/cb/sos/
--
IM






Re: (313) Net radio live streams - techno/experimental

2003-03-07 Thread Ian
On 3/6/03 8:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, can someone point me to some 24 hr. live streams on the net? Some
 detroit or some more experimental stuff would be great! And no realplayer
 please!

Not sure what your setup is, but there are lots of mp3 streams running 24/7.
Search on Shoutcast or Live365 for your interests.  I just stumbled across
Aeonflux radio on Shoutcast

http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3851461file=filenam
e.pls

Anyone else have a favorite bookmarked out there?
--
im



Re: (313) one more cd tip.

2003-03-08 Thread Ian
On 3/7/03 11:58 PM, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anya Stang wrote:
 
   You might be able to find it
 on eBay if your [sic] lucky!
 
 2 users (humpelmann and daijen) have it on SoulSeek ...

WAITAMINNIT!  You're NOT A Mac guy?  WTF?  (p.s. Howya been?)
--
im



Re: (313) one more cd tip.

2003-03-08 Thread Ian
On 3/8/03 12:08 AM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (p.s. Howya been?)

Okay, that's my first sorry, not meant for the list post in 7 years.
Apologies.
--
im



Re: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-03-10 Thread Ian
On 3/9/03 8:36 PM, Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was there.  It was my first time seeing the movie and I liked his version
 alot.  It added alot to the film, especially considering the topic of
 machines and automation.  The repetitive beats complimented the theme
 nicely.

I also made the trip out to Detroit Historical for this.  Jeff's edit of the
film is pretty substantial, from an original running time of about 2.5 hours
to just over an hour or so (the Moroder version was 80 minutes).  The first
10 minutes are transformed from a series of motion shots of the city to more
of a layering of stills.  I found that dialogue was pared back to the
minimum necessary to retain the basic plot.

The soundtrack married well, particularly scenes in the Fredersen Garden,
the workers at the machine, and Futura's cabaret dance.  I found myself
wishing that Jeff would compose additional and varied tracks to fill out the
original length of the film, because I feel it suffered from heavy editing.

The Techno exhibit was nicely done for the space allowed.  Particularly
liked the wall of bios, and the original Tom Thewes piece for DEMF 2000.
It's more brilliant than I remember.  If you're going to visit for DEMF this
year, make sure to stop in at the museum.
--
im



Re: (313) festival sites

2003-04-03 Thread Ian
On 4/2/03 10:41 AM, Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps a Sigma6/Appnet/Commerce One/i33 employee named VanLoo or Malbon
 could verify this?

Thanks for remembering all our permutations through the years, Rob!

The truth shall set you free.  Here it is from the man who has maintained
Detroit electronic music festival sites for the last 3 years, going on four:

-- Forwarded Message
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:01:04 -0500 (EST)
 Subject: Re: FW: (313) festival sites
 
 Here is the story as it actually happened.
 
 I teamed up with Carol and the Pop Culture Media folks in early
 2000 about doing the website for the first DEMF.  We registered
 demf.org (the main site) and demf.net and used those domains for the first
 year's festival.  At the time, DEMF.com was registered by someone in
 Argentina I believe.
 
 The second year of the festival saw a turn in strategy for the website.
 Carol was interested in using electronicmusicfest.com, org and net because
 it was a more generic name.  This would open up the site to be used in
 conjunction with an event(s) in Detroit or wherever.  This was to be the
 main site for the empire of *EMF sites.  There was almost no interest in
 using demf.org the second year.  I kept demf.org online through the second
 year because it was still seeing a fair amount of traffic from old links
 from the first year.  I let the demf.org and .net domains expire after the
 second year because they were no longer needed and the business had no use
 for them.  It seems the domains were snatched up fairly quickly by random
 techno fans.
 
 ElectronicMusicfest.com was used exclusively during the third year of the
 DEMF.
 
 All domains (demf.org, demf.net,
 electronicmusicfest.com, .net, and .org were never owned by Carol or Pop
 Culture.  They were registered by other individuals)
 
 The official website for Movement: Detroit's Electronic Music Festival is
 
 http://www.movementfestival.com
 
 look for a new site to launch in mid April with lineup, et al.
 
 I don't believe that Transmat owns DEMF.com.  It seems to be leased from
 some domain broker in Scotland judging by the registrar records.
 
 This chapter in DEMF website history has been brought to you by:
 
 
 Bryan Bickel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging

2003-04-11 Thread Ian
I find myself waiting for Otto to chime in here (the man has a doctorate in
issues relating to supply and demand after all).  But I don't want to put
him on the spot.  ;)  So here's my humble opinion:

Unfortunately, this may be the result of fallout from the heavyhanded
tactics of the record industry.  Let me try to clarify.

Underground Artist X forms a label and minimizes supply as an artistic
statement or business decision (whichever, does not matter).  Greedy Fan Y
decides to cash in on higher demand by bootlegging.  Greedy Fan Y is
breaking the law.  Y could have asked for licensing rights and given a cut
back to artist X.  

But artist X will not do business with Y, in part because of a complete
mistrust fostered by the record industry's history of ripping off artists.

This is the pure (albeit ugly) nature of free markets, no?  Survival of the
opportunist?  I am NOT condoning bootlegging.

The piece that's missing is the free flow of information from the willing
buyer to the copyright owner.  This is what a lot of artists are trying to
figure out lately.  Of course I am not taking into account the economics of
vinyl production and single copy distribution.

Final thoughts:  If that pre-order deepchord CD was available from their
site, I'd order now.  I am about to own a legit copy of Beltran's 10 Days
of Blue after waiting 6 years to hear it.
-- 
im



(313) Content for a change

2003-04-17 Thread Ian
If near Detroit, listen to WDET tonight for the latest Focus:Electronic:

 Wednesday night/Thursday morning, April 17th
 In a country where creative expression has become a national treasure, France
 has been a leader of electronic producers for decades. From early electronic
 experiments ala musique concrète to deep house, techno, ambient, trip hop and
 jazz/world-influenced rhythms, there are many facets of the French sound to
 explore. Some featured artists (just to name a few) are
 Jean-Michel Jarre, Air, St Germain, i:cube and Laurent Garnier.
 
 focus:electronic is a monthly radio series on WDET-FM 101.9 Detroit hosted by
 Liz Copeland with guest co-host Clark Warner. It is heard on the 3rd Wednesday
 night/Thursday morning of each month, 12:30 AM until about 2:30 AM (Eastern
 Time).

If you dislike American foreign policy, listen to support French culture.
If you are boycotting the French, then buy all these releases to destroy
them in public.  ;-)

Even more importantly, protest to congress the fact that WDET no longer
broadcasts music programming due to CARP restrictions.  Instructions here:
http://www.audiointerference.com/
-- 
im



Re: (313) More great rumors I heard

2003-04-18 Thread Ian
On 4/18/03 12:29 PM, Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dale Lawrence will be riding a donkey and wearing a sombrero travelling Hart
 Plaza as Senor Hernandez, Mercenary at Large. Flat autographs: $5,
 Everything else: $10

One out of eleven ain't bad, Rob.  ;-)
-- 
im



(313) Movement Update

2003-04-21 Thread Ian
I've just heard that the official date for announcing the lineup is 5/2.
It's unlikely that the website will see updates until then.
-- 
im



Re: (313) Broken Beat Requests

2003-04-23 Thread Ian
On 4/23/03 12:53 PM, Cyhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 check out Argo's BrokenBeat Radio, from Philly...
 http://www.beleza-music.org/vivid/bb_radio.html

Very nice!  Great office music.  I noticed a couple other stations on
live365 that mention broken beat:

http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?genre=searchsearchdesc=broken%
20beat

Those are next on my playlist.
--
im



Re: (313) Live set

2003-05-01 Thread Ian
On 4/30/03 7:00 PM, Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gorgeous.  This is really excellent.
 
 I think I know some of these tracks ;)

 Download: http://emoticon-headspace.net/audio/tom_churchill_live_apr03.mp3
 (30 meg, 128 kbps MP3)

Agreed, this is a nice set.  Really captured the 313 feel, Tom.  Almost one
for the FAQ!  Got a tracklist?
-- 
Ian



Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson

2003-05-02 Thread Ian
On 5/1/03 8:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For anyone interested Kevin Saunderson's next mix installment Deep Cyberspace
 Radio Volume 3 is now available to order from his website www.worldofdeep.com

Are there tracklists available for any of these releases?  I assume they're
CDRs.  Can anyone confirm?
-- 
im



Re: (313) SoHo store Ipod picts

2003-05-05 Thread Ian
On 5/5/03 1:28 PM, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 rich ran the gamut with his set. it was smooth
 though. I didnt appreciate how smooth it was until the
 guy after him went on and sounded incredibly chunky
 and unfocused. The guy went from straight up house to
 get yer freak on. BUT from what i understand rich is
 no stranger to the ipod, so he had that advantage.

I happened to make it out to Somerset on Friday, and listened to a couple of
fellas from Ghostly (can I get a DJ ID?).  I was under the initial
impression that all the tracks being played were supposedly available in the
iTunes Music Store.  This allows the Kraftwerk I heard, but certainly not
Justus Köhncke's Was ist Musik?.  Using licensed tunes only would have
hampered Richie's set.

For the Mac-challenged among you, Apple is working on an iTunes release for
Windows.  Until then, the iPod is perfectly compatible with MusicMatch
software.
-- 
im



Re: (313) heads-only techno? nah

2003-05-05 Thread Ian
Does Derrick May still drop French Kiss in every set?  :)

On 5/5/03 4:55 PM, a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has Traci Lords been successful?  :)
 
 
 On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 20:17 Atlantic/Reykjavik, Cyclone Wehner
 wrote:
 
 I don't know, maybe if we make it more overtly sexy that will overcome
 the
 lyric thing. Sex sells everything, right? ;)
 
 -
 Fundamentally, no form of instrumental music will ever be what Rock
 and Hiphop
 are.  The best comparison, really, is Jazz. Largely instrumental
 music,
 popular
 with a relatively small percentage of the population.  But Jazz has
 penetrated mass consciousness to the point where people know what it
 is, and
 there's some respect for it.
 
 On Tue, 6 May 2003, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 I think they mean in terms of impacting on pop culture in the US in
 the same
 way.
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) Movement Sponsors

2003-05-09 Thread Ian
On 5/9/03 1:26 PM, Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Clear Channel, Direct TV, General Motors  a private investment group take
 combined $250 million stake in XM satellite radio (1999)
 Learn more at
 http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/press_release_1999_06_08.html another
 one http://www.digitalaudioguide.com/features/satellite_radio.htm
 
 And they still want me to believe that artists who will play at the festival
 cannot be paid because no sponsor has been seriously take a commitment???
 Calling all propaganders around, now you really really must have a deep
 think about where you are going to...with that...

I might be missing something, but what does corporate sponsorship of  XM in
1999 have to do with XM sponsoring Movement in 2003?  Surely there's no
conspiracy here.  

Some guesses at the reasons for sponsoring XM: Direct TV potentially shares
infrastructure, GM is factory-installing satellite radio players, and Clear
is hedging it's bets on competing technology.  None of these companies has
anything to do with XM deciding to support the festival.  For XM, it's just
a good local marketing opportunity.

I just don't smell the rat here.
-- 
im



Re: (313) so far

2003-05-24 Thread Ian
On 5/23/03 7:41 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I spotted a K Mart Express and we stopped for a minute so I could
 get a windbreaker or rain jacket.  Do you think there was such a
 thing in a store that big?  Na.  Guess it never rains in Michigan!

It's all a matter of perspective, Fred.  Rain is cleaner than sweat.  If
you're getting your groove on properly, let the skies open!

As a side note, this local is gutted.  I'm off to Wisconsin for a
biological family gathering, and back in Hart Plaza for Mills set (maybe).
I hope all the list members who have made it to Detroit document well and
support properly.
--
im



Re: (313) messages

2003-05-29 Thread Ian
On 5/29/03 1:36 PM, Holly MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ok, i figured it out... for some reason i have to REPLY to another
 message from the list to get one through? i can't start a thread myself?
 what's up with that? am i a second class 313-er? blacklisted cause i
 missed DEMF again?

Sounds like your mail client is set up to compose in HTML format, and reply
to plain text messages in plain text format.

313 list dislikes HTML format, but loves plain text.  Change your settings
and you should be squared away.
--
im



Re: (313) OT - cantina band

2003-06-10 Thread Ian
I think you mean Meco Monardo's remake.  I'm embarrassed to admit how
influential Other Galactic Funk was for me.  Another italo-disco thread
anyone?

On 6/9/03 9:10 PM, DJ Entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Star Wars Disco!
 
 
 
 On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:31:28 -0400 (EDT), Dave Pinter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 what is the track that derrick carter plays that samples the cantina band
 from star wars ? i think there's one on juice records but there might be
 others too...? thanx.
 
 probably Cantina: Mos Eisley Medley on Definitive.don't remember the
 release date exactly but probably '97
 
 +dave
 
 



Re: (313) OT - cantina band

2003-06-10 Thread Ian
Okay here's the beans.  I just did a little google on Meco and found this
fan page.  I seriously have never rolled on the floor laughing this hard in
a while.  I thought Meco stopped at Episode V.  Was I wrong...

http://usa.internations.net/mecomusic/sw/index.html

On 6/9/03 9:23 PM, Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I think you mean Meco Monardo's remake.  I'm embarrassed to admit how
 influential Other Galactic Funk was for me.  Another italo-disco thread
 anyone?
 
 
 Nope. My moms used to work for a studio, and I have all sorts of old vinyl
 from that era accordingly. Midnight Run, Saturday Night Fever, Thank God
 It's Friday, etc. Cantina or Cantina Song was definitely fully credited
 to Lucas. It was the same version played in the movie. Perhaps you mean a
 fancy-ass disco remake from that era? If so, spill the beans!



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Ian
On 6/13/03 3:47 PM, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think Plastikman looks
 better with a c as in plastic man (lower case) of course this is just my
 subjective opinion

DC Comics might take issue with that treatment.  BTW it was interesting
stumbling across this:

http://www.plasticman.ca

-- 
Im



Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread Ian
On 6/16/03 1:04 PM, The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-)

Let's not dis the New Romantics, now.  How else would we have gotten
Frequency 7?

Back on topic,
-- 
im



Re: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)

2003-06-23 Thread Ian
On 6/22/03 7:34 PM, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be
 scientifically proven, a
 primitive concept based in tradition.

And so it becomes clear.  You ARE channeling the spirit of Criswell from
Plan 9 from Outer Space.

You see -- your stupid hu-man brains!   Stupid, stupid, stupid!
-- 
Im

We are all interested in the future, for that, my friend, is where you and
I will spend the rest of our lives. 



Re: (313) itiswhatitis records

2003-06-26 Thread Ian
On 6/26/03 12:19 PM, Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 Though I still am looking forward to the new Kirk Degeorgio one done in
 studio/Ableton... haven't heard it yet.  Can someone remind me of the
 label again?

My wishlist says it's on KEEP DIGGIN.

KIRK DEGIORGIO - F.X.MIX.01. (KEEP DIGGIN CD  21 JULY 2003)

Four short weeks for those of us who buy our CDs (most of 'em anyway).
--
Im



Re: (313) time difference

2003-07-02 Thread Ian
On 7/1/03 10:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 peeps
 
 can anyone in or near detroit please tell me how far behind EST detroit is
 ? thanx

Detroit = EST.
--
im



(313) The message in Herbie's LPs (was Re: (313) amp fiddler lovewar)

2003-07-07 Thread Ian
On 7/6/03 7:28 PM, Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 So you jazz fans, how about the top 3-5 must have Herbie Hancock LPs
 or moments ?  Commentary encouraged.

Maiden Voyage is a standout LP and track.  Sublime mid 60s jazz
exploration. The classic Dolphin Dance bookends the album.

Head Hunters is the next must have.  So completely influenced by 60s soul,
and so influential on 70s funk and jazz.  You know the bassline for
Chameleon by heart even if you don't recognize the title.  Trippy synth
solos abound.

I heard Sunlight on a Shake or CC mix and had to track down the 1977
release.  Commercial, mildly funky, and so loaded with antique gear it'll
make your head spin.  Warning:  vocoder in FULL effect.

Most people point to Rockit from Future Shock next.  An electro classic
that's flat-out over-exposed right now.

I haven't really listened to his last two releases enough to find favorite
moments.  That doesn't mean they aren't lurking in there.
-- 
im

P.S.  Get a hold of Sound-System just to hear People are Changing.  It's
a cover of a brilliantly funky Timmy Thomas song.  



Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Ian
On 7/10/03 10:30 AM, Dave Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did Juan also hear 'Planet Rock'?  as this was relased around the same
 time as 'Alley's Of Your Mind' on Deep Space...  I don't know which one
 was first. 

I believe Planet Rock was 1982, shortly after Alleys.  A better
inspiration for Alleys can be found in Ultravox's Mr. X from 1980.

As I hear it, Afrika Bambaataa took inspiration more directly from
Kraftwerk, and spawned dozens of imitators, defining the classic electro
sound.  Pardon the pun, but it's influence may have even cycled back to
Kraftwerk for Tour de France.

Everyone of a certain age and an interest in dance music heard Planet Rock.
It was inescapable in 1982/83.
-- 
im



[313] Roots of Trance (Was Re: LA Weekly Juan interview)

2001-11-05 Thread Ian
on 11/3/01 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would also dispute that Star Dancer is the blueprint for trance;
 there are quite a few releases in my collection that predate it
 (I was playing what we would now call trance in 1994 but quickly got
 away from it, and though I like some of the old tracks the current
 stuff turns my blood to mush).

Not to turn this into a particularly long thread, but what would you
consider to be other midwestern influences on what has become Trance?

The only things that pop into my head immediately are some late 80s Chicago
Acid experiments and Richie's early successes which Deutsche kinder seemed
to embrace, like Substance Abuse, F.U., etc. I suppose there are other
European trends branching out from EBM...
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Re: [313] theorem/ectomorph

2001-11-15 Thread Ian
on 11/15/01 8:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 can someone post me Theorem's Nano track list?

http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/gallery/CD/Theorem_Nano.html

Click the link to Gracenote for CD track listing.
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[313] I'm off

2001-11-29 Thread Ian
Going to test the iPod for a couple weeks in the field.  This technotourist
will report back upon completion of the mission.  Support your local
musicians!
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Re: [313] Motor Rumors

2001-11-29 Thread Ian

I never really thought of Hamtramck as scary.
Any city that has a monument of the Pope is alright with me.
Ive never had any problems around motor, granted I havent 
been there in a while. ah well.
I think its that fear of Detroit spilling over into 
Hamtramck.

2cents.

agci
 Original message 
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:06:23 GMT
From: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Re: [313] Motor Rumors  
To: 313@hyperreal.org

I had the opposite result when I was at the Motor this 
summer.  Gene
Farris was listed (but as far as I know never was there), 
and whoever
was playing bored me to tears, so i went to the Clock for 
late/early
breakfast and went out and flagged down a taxi within 3 
minutes.



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Re: [313] The Great White Hype DJ Story

2002-03-04 Thread Ian
on 3/3/02 4:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've had requests for Santana and Floydthe Floyd I could see...but the
 Santana?? I don't think i could work that in...even if I had it.
 
 That's funny...a while back Giles Dickerson and I had a conversation about
 how funny it was that we had both been playing Santana in our house sets.
 
 It really does work - right tempo, right propulsive groove, wicked
 percussion.

Jingo, right?  This was the track that I recommended to Jay Langa
(backseat DJ that I am), when he was on his French Disco-house kick.  Tres
tribal.
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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Ian
on 3/5/02 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I count 'Deep Space' as my all-time favorite 313 album.

Just a quick story--I spent a frustrating, long Amtrak trip from Detroit to
Chicago several years ago, but was fortunate enough to be seated next to a
fellow music geek.

He was doing his PHD at Michigan in American popular music, pre-jazz.  He
showed some interest in techno, but had trouble knowing how to approach it.
He asked me for a definitive release, and I suggested Deep Space.

I wonder where that guy is now.
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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Ian
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com:

 I wish we did live in colorblind world like that.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Yeah but we'd run all the red lights :)

So I guess you're saying Detroit is colorblind! ;-)
(love those signs downtown that say The Light is RED for a reason!)

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Re: [313] Balihu 002?

2002-03-08 Thread Ian
 There was the 'I Was A Disco Malcontent' album on Oxygen but that's
 basically just a comp of Balihu stuff. And there's also the 'Idealism' album
 on Environ of course...
 
 I think he also has a track on the Freezone 6 comp, but I don't have that...

That track is My 909 Blues, but honestly it's probably the weakest track
on the comp IMO.  Mostly an FM synth retro patch-fest, that reminds me too
much of the theme from Doogie Howser.

Other great stuff on that Freezone release though, from Mark Pritchard, Jack
Jones, Common Factor, Isolee, and the 18th copy of Camping Jazz that I
have on CD.

Sorry for morphing the thread, but any news about a domestic release of
Freezone 7 on CD yet?  Out since 10/31/01 according to crammed/SSR.
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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Ian
on 3/8/02 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3  In other words, the minority is defined by difference from a NORM, and
 that norm in our society exists as the WHITE ADULT MALE.

Don't you ever call me Norm.  ;-)
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Re: [313] Mojo

2002-03-08 Thread Ian
on 3/7/02 5:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 PS Please feel free to use this thread for further Mojo praise.
 
 I hear that.  Does anyone have any old setlists of Mojo / Midnight Funk Assn.
 radio shows?  I know they were on for a long time, just wondered if it's
 possible to dig up anything like this in old radio show logbooks or journals
 or something.  I can name about 20 tracks that I remeber him playing alot, but
 I'd love to see the range of, say, an ENTIRE SHOW from start to finish... how
 long were those shows?

Nice historical blurb here:
http://www.metrotimes.com/19/Dma99/achieve.html

I recall a flash heavy Midnight Funk Association website from over a year
ago.  Good news is, it looks like Mojo still has www.electrifyingmojo.com
registered, but under construction.

As far as a top 20, why don't those of us who remember the show list a few?
I'll get the obvious ones out first:

Kraftwerk, Numbers
B52s, Mesopotamia
George Clinton, Atomic Dog
A Number of Names, Shari-Vari
Model 500, Alleys of your Mind
Visage, Frequency 7
Prince, Controversy
Was Not Was, Out Come the Freaks
Afrika Bambaataa, Planet Rock
The Eurythmics, Sweet Dreams
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Re: [313] Put A New Ear On.

2002-03-20 Thread Ian
on 3/20/02 4:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i am enthusiastic to hear of other members' encounters with the
 rediscovery event.
 
 I go through this with 80's-era Tangerine Dream records about once every 2
 years.
 Not 313, but probably connected enough to warrant mentioning.

I used to listen to Exit quite a bit when it first came out.

Yesterday's rediscovery was In Order to Dance 5 2CD comp from RS.
Brilliant, that one.  1995 was a pretty heady year in techno.
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Re: (313) ot politics

2002-11-06 Thread Ian
On 11/7/02 1:10 PM, James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 what about new zealand. anybody know how recloose is finding it?
 james

West to the Marshall Islands then hang a left?
--
im
(sorry, couldn't resist)



Re: (313) Electro..

2002-11-07 Thread Ian
I don't think I saw mention of Submerge's Origins of a Sound comp, which I
always drop in the player when I need an electro fix.

Off the Detroit tip, I had a lot of fun listening to Mandroid's Electro
Freaks Rehab Clinic a few years back.
-- 
im



Re: (313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...

2002-11-11 Thread Ian
On 11/11/02 8:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2) There's been quite a bit of talk on the list lately about the
 Mojo/Wizard/DeepSpace radio shows. Does anyone know where I could get some
 old mojo/deep space tapes from?

I am in the process of encoding two DeepSpace shows from 1996.  When I have
the files, and a place to post them, I'll let the list know.
--
im



RE: (313) 8-Mile

2002-11-11 Thread Ian
Amen to that.

Im also a little puzzled that no one has mentioned the 
attention that this movie is bringing to the city. Yeah, 
people are crying that it makes the city look like a prison.
But as someone who has seen the film, I thought Detroit 
looked like Detroit, and it was actually kind of cool sitting 
in a major theater going, Wow, I know where that is...
And the fact that he has said in interviews that his purpose 
in the movie was to show the world the real Detroit 
transcends whatever his opinion on techno is. 

ID


 Original message 
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:50:38 -
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile  
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Michael.Elliot-
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org

I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about 
what Eminem thinks
about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder 
over whether
Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile



He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-
techno' just that he
never got into it.

So why the perceivably universal diss that nobody listens 
to techno? That
to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal 
taste.

Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny 
line and a hot
tune.

MEK



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Re: (313) Red Planet compilation

2002-11-16 Thread Ian
On 11/16/02 7:15 AM, Erik Jälevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry if this is a FAQ (I'm new), but is the Red Planet CD compilation that
 came out in 99 readily available?

http://www.submerge.comlists this as still in-stock.

Essential.
--
im



(313) A worthwhile event

2002-11-18 Thread Ian
A yearly event here in Detroit that is well worth the cover 
price!

Good music for a great cause.

ID



Please make plans to attend House for the Homeless 3, a 
benefit for the Capuchin Soup Kitchen in Detroit on Friday, 
November 22. Local House DJ's and performers have generously 
donated their time to raise money for this worthy cause just 
in time for Thanksgiving.

Date: Friday, November 22 (9pm-2am)

Location: 3515 Caniff (space generously donated by Dan Sordyl)

Admission: $10 donation at the door (proceeds to the Capuchin 
Soup Kitchen), 18+ welcome

Performances from (in 2 rooms):

Sound Circle Collective
Dwayne Jensen: Fathom Recordings, Beatdownsounds.com
Delano Smith: Beatdownsounds.com
DJ Genesis: Beatdownsounds.com
John Arnold: Ubiquity, Transmat
Mazz: Citypeoplemusic
Josh Crilley feat. Malik Alston: Truth Manifest
John Stoll: Color Collective
Mathew Boynton: Detroit Bachelor DJ's, Incognito Detroit
Patrick Aaron aka Egghead: Crackly Records

Fashions by Michele Swanson

Hors D'oeuvres prepared by Camillian Cafe in Greektown

3515 Caniff, Hamtramck
Doors open at 9. 18 and over welcome. Admission $10 at the 
door only. 

Cash bar. Additional canned food donations will be accepted 
(cover still applies)

Thanks to our sponsors: Record Time, Camillian Cafe, Real 
Detroit Weekly, Motor Productions, Highway Press, and the 
Patricola Agency

Contact information: Vince Patricola: Cell (248) 417-6089, 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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