[CGUYS] iPod cases
I have a 30GB iPod and need to buy a case for it. It spends most of its time clipped into a bag, slipped into a jacket pocket, or sitting on a table. I charge it via USB (no dock) and also plug a Griffin iTalk microphone into it several times a week and would prefer a case that allow me to do so without de-casing it. Any suggestions please? cb * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] iPod cases
I have a 30GB iPod and need to buy a case for it. It spends most of its time clipped into a bag, slipped into a jacket pocket, or sitting on a lectern. I charge it via USB (no dock) and also plug a Griffin iTalk microphone into it several times a week and would prefer a case that allow me to do so without de-casing it. Any suggestions please? cb * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Subject: [CGUYS] Buying First MAC
Ditto what Betty said. I very recently bought a MacBook Pro and had the same experience. I had also ordered the 4GB RAM kit from datamem and installed it in a snap. She will love the machine. My first Mac was a dual USB iBook some 7 years ago and we still use that machine everyday at work. At some point a few years ago we added a G5 iMac for the kids. We're happy campers. Charles On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:43 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I just bought a MacBook; took it out of the box last night. A Mac [not MAC] has a setup program that runs when you first turn it on after taking it out of the box--my MacBook was fully charged w/3-4 hrs of power--just plug in the iMac. I set the location; it automatically set the time. I have an iTunes account. I typed my login and password, and the program filled out my name, address, and other info for me. When I finished the basic setup, including creating two accounts [one for me and one for testing] and got to the Finder desktop, I launched Safari. The Mac had already found our wifi network by itself, and I was on the Internet to download Firefox and Thunderbird, plus a few other utilities like StuffIt, FinderPop, and Yasu. From the time I opened the box to getting on the Internet to read my email and listen to a web stream, it was less than 10 minutes. My husband took a week to get his Compaq online, and he still can't get it to play web streams with any sound! Your wife will love her Mac. It's so easy to set up and use. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!
What I can't get past is that we, or society is gov't. The federal gov't was built only very specific powers. What it wasn't given remained with the states.. more specifically the people. It's still up to us. So again, what I don't understand is why we seem to want out of our obligations (defined as societal/moral/ etc). Why are we always looking to the state beyond its mandate? We have a very capable, and flexible nonprofit sector constantly experimenting with these issues and more. Gov't loves the NPS as it provides a reliable proving ground. As gov't crowds out the NPS in more arenas, while our civil society will never go away, I worry it will become smaller or less vibrant similar to those in the rest of the world. cb On Sep 23, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Randy wrote: I believe you are correct; hence the logical (and moral) inconsistency of those (mostly liberals and Democrats) who simultaneously demand that WalMart and maybe other employers provide more health coverage while also seeking universal health care, usually through the federal government. Meanwhile, somewhat ironically, Republican Governors in California and Massachusetts have helped move their states towards providing universal health care. The rationale for employer-based health coverage no longer exists, as the circumstances which gave rise to this many decades ago have changed dramatically. If people believe there is an ethical obligation to provide health care coverage for all who want and need it (as I do; at least for legal citizens) than this obligation should fall naturally on society, and therefore on society's main instrument of exercising its explicit obligations - government; not on employers. That is, we should assume this obligation and the costs of doing so, not, as we are wont to do, pass it off onto others, such as large employers. Personally, the model that makes the most sense to me of those I heard about is a single payer system; but I would add a lot of significant sticks and carrots to incentivize behavior likely to lead to good health and thus lower costs, while disincentivizing behavior likely to do the opposite. I would extend this to the radical notion that people who are not able, at least at the moment, to provide for their children should be discouraged - as an ethical matter - from having children they cannot support, and therefore are likely to look to government to assume, in effect, this parental responsibility. Of course, no mainstream politician or public figure would ever dare raise the ethics of having an unlimited right to reproduce irrespective of the consequences of exercising that right, but the issue is both logically and morally linked to the argument that society or someone has an obligation to provide for health care coverage for all persons, particularly those who cannot afford or access it on their own. What does this have to do with computers? Nothing, directly, but since others are discussing this here, this is my 2 cents. Randall - Original Message - From: Matthew Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING I can see an argument that society has an obligation to provide health care to all, and that government is the best means to achieve that. I do not see that the obligation, if extant, should in any way fall on employers. If one accepted that argument, that an economic entity that employs a person obligated to provide healthcare to that person, then every mom and pop enterprise, every individual who ever hired a kid to mow the lawn, would logically and ethically share the obligation, for the size of the employer does not bear upon the obligation, only its practicality. That is not Scrooge refusing to give to charity, for charity by its definition is voluntary, not obligatory. Matthew On Sep 20, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Does Walmart have some inherent obligation to pay healthcare? There Might be a business case to do so...but that does not translate into an obligation. COMMENT: `Are there no prisons?'' asked Scrooge. * *** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at
Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!
Adding to Matthew's comments: The established trend is to use hospitalists. Your doc gets some feedback, etc on your progress, but your inpatient care is directed and managed by the hospital's W-2 employed hospitalist. I'd not call a hospitalist a specialist other than as defined contractually. Another reason your doc may only have privileges at one hospital, besides being an employee of that hospital, is that its often required that the majority of your admissions (51%?) must go to the hospital offering you admissions privileges (remember the hospitalist will take over care for your pt upon admission). A large hospital system owned by a 'religious-charitable organization does this.. so its not a profit/nonprofit split. We left Kansas some time ago. On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Sometimes hospitals also restrict how many doctors they will allow privileges as well. Some very good family practice doctors have no privileges at all, as most anything going on in a hospital involves a specialist. On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: What is sometimes overlooked is that Doctor preference can also be an indicator of what are the better hospitals. If you have a family physician and he only chooses to associate with one particular hospital there must be a reason. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT WARNING!!!! - Tom is right
On Sep 26, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I think too many list members have switched to OS X. Now they don't have any computer problems to gripe about. The rest of you need to get to work -- install Vista or some other harebrained piece of software so we can ponder the consequences. Tom is correct by my experience. I was deep into developing apps on OS/2 for years. Unix before that. When IBM quieted OS/2 a friend suggested I follow the world and install NT4. I did and computer work immediately ceased being a focus in my life. Email was about it for a long time. Sometime in mid 2000, with much angst, I bought my first Mac.. the redesigned white dual-USB iBook, a 500 MHz G3 that is still going strong. I bought it for the new OSX knowing it had *nix in there somewhere. I'd long ago lost most of my *nix skills but was looking forward to having a 'real' OS again. Also knowing several mac users who always seemed quite content helped me take the leap even though I was warned by several Windows people that I'd never be able to exchange a file with them again and was paying more only to be constantly plagued by pox. Moving ahead seven years... I'm working from our household's third Mac, a MacBook Pro, and I haven't looked back nor missed a thing (except for a nifty grocery list app I liked back when: www.tali.com/ slm/) Interesting things have also happened while drinking Apple's KoolAid. When I sit down and open my computer my focus is on my work. To me, my computer 'disappears'. I don't know if this is a unique experience, but I remember that futzing with computer things was a big part of my work. Not that it wasn't enjoyable at the time, but now I enjoy futz directly with my work. Put another way, my work gets most of the mind-share now. The biggest bonus is that I much prefer what I do now over the computer focused stuff I did before. Other things came up when my computer, or the OS etc, left the forefront. This isn't all Mac exclusive or dependent I think. But for me, it did. And I'm glad. ... back to 'work'. Charles * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!
Teaching hospitals are fine.. especially if you're stuck with some 'zebra' of a problem. Although every July and August, given a choice, I'd lean toward the non-teaching, non-govt places. On Sep 26, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Robert wrote: Tom Piwowar wrote: Given the choice of three hospitals and knowing only that one was run by a government agency, one was run by a for-profit corporation, and one was run by a religious-charitable organization, which would your choose? Depends on the government agency. If it is a hospital run by the Federal Emergency Management Agency or the Dept. of Homeland Security, I would choose either a religious or a for-profit hospital. If it is a teaching hospital run by a state university, I would choose the government agency. ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!
You took wrong Mark. I'm a veteran and I know the VA system. Am I to guess you're somehow affiliated with the VA and took exception? I didn't say one couldn't get good care at a VA. I said, given a choice I'd prefer a non-gov't run hospital, except depending on diagnosis. Lots of people seek out care for testicular cancer at Indiana University (Lance Armstrong is a famous one), but they don't go there because its IU. They go to IU because thats where they find Larry Einhorn. The points you mentioned below all relate to efficiency. I answered Tom's question based on my perception of quality of care. A state-run med school affiliated hospital or practice would not be my first choice for routine care. Students need practice and learning opportunities, but I'm under no obligation to provide it personally. Its not relevant that any given VA facility, or the VA on whole while may or may not be the best run hospital system in the country. That the residents managing pt care are supported with barcoded systems, EMRs, and an efficiently purchased formulary is also not relevant to my care decisions. I don't want a resident front-lining my care (especially at the beginning of the year) no matter how efficient the system is said to be. Interestingly, all that most advanced medical software is a current topic of discussion in the churning swirl of medical education. A growing percentage of students is being found unable to compose a patient summary without using the system. Is medical education training techs to follow drop-down lists and history forms? Granted, care directed using a validated system strictly followed will probably reduce malpractice risk. It will also help make appt's quicker so more pts can be seen in a day to help make up for lower reimbursements. But, the argument goes, is that what we want from a physician? I seem to think more and more we do, at least until we get what we're asking for. I just hope the developers have the newest CASE tools and use some of that artificial intelligence and fuzzy logic to build the systems. cb On Sep 30, 2007, at 10:57 AM, Mark Corrigan wrote: On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote: Any except the gov't hospital. What government hospital are you talking about? I take it that you are not a veteran and no nothing about the VA. The VA is the biggest hospital system in the world and provides very good care for the less money than any other hospital in the US. The VA is not constrained by the latest medicaid/medicare bill that prevents bulk bidding for medicines. As a consequence the VA pays the least amount for medicine of any hospital in the US. The VA is the most computerized and has the most advanced medical software of any hospital in the world. The VA was using bar code scanners to scan patients and pass meds 10 years ago. This makes it virtually impossible to have a medication error. Doctors do not hand write orders at the VA. All orders have do be entered into a computer. Hand written orders are the number one reason for medication mistakes . They kill some where in the neighborhood of 100,000 people per year in the us. All hospital in this country have problems (including the VA), but please don't knock the best run hospital system in the country (which happens to be government run) to private hospitals. By the way the VA is not Walter Reed which is a army hospital for active duty soldiers. And one of Walter Reed's biggest problem's came about because they privatized their janitorial staff with a subsidiary of Haliburton. For profit and nonprofit are equal except if you're a high risk OB/ sick mother case and would prefer the mother be saved by sacrificing the baby should it come to that. In that case you'd want to avoid certain religious affiliated hospitals. On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Given the choice of three hospitals and knowing only that one was run by a government agency, one was run by a for-profit corporation, and one was run by a religious-charitable organization, which would your choose? * *** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header
Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]
and probably easier for you too since you wouldn't be there pushing her and hand-holding.. Maybe you would both have time to get a new hobby. g cb On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Mason Miller wrote: This would all be easier, not for you, but for her, on a Mac. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her doctor did not prescribe an important new treatment because keeping up with medical advances was too much trouble? You have a fiduciary responsibility to make the best selection for her, not for you. If I did not push her into this, she would not do it at all. I foresee a very lot of hand-holding. Better that than her spending $1200 and never using it at all. Instead of taking upon yourself the responsibility to sort out the messes why not get a computer that won't have the messes? You can then direct your efforts to the real challenge: teaching her how to use the computer. I wouldn't know how. Nor do I want to spend the necessary hours on her machine to figure it out. Considering all of this, I think she'd be safest with a cable connection behind a firewall Depends on what is more reliable in her area. I think DSL is usually more reliable. Not in this area. We're all too far from the phone co to get DSL, but we all have cable available. all desktop icons hidden except for a word processor, My Documents, Firefox and a stand-alone email icon. What does she need a word processor for? Because she likes to write. She has occasionally written articles and submitted them for publication. She has always written in longhand and had someone else type them for her. What does she need an email program for? Because she will understand that better. I don't want to have her launching a whole bunch of stuff at once. Her grown kids and grands are far away, and she will want to receive photos. I want a mail program that will detach the photos and file them, so at least I can find them. Keep it simple. Set her up with Gmail. If she must print out a letter she can type it in Gmail and print from there. I would have the computer automatically launch FireFox and make the home page Gmail. Put some icons at the bookmarks toolbar for the other things she needs. Keep it simple. That's what I plan to do. Manually launch a browser with a blank page and teach her to use bookmarks. And not confuse it with her email. With a very basic understanding of how it really works, she just might progress. By setting up magic in the beginning, she has no hope of learning. I deal with too many people like that all the time. Sue * *** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * *** ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the
Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]
This lady might benefit from a resource like SeniorNet. She might find a peer group. She'll learn things, maybe completely new things that will develop new interests for her to pursue. Who knows.. soon after Sue gets the PC set up the lady may go online, order a Mac, pull it out of the box, and be online in 15 minutes and doing all those cool things the Mac Guy does in the Switch commercials! Then maybe she'll join a local MUG and start doing presentations in Keynote, build a blog on day trips for the 70+ crowd, publish that book, and go on Oprah! This link says it all in a fifteen item list that seems to cover Sue's points of concern. http://www.apple.com/getamac/ cb On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her doctor did not prescribe an important new treatment because keeping up with medical advances was too much trouble? You have a fiduciary responsibility to make the best selection for her, not for you. If I did not push her into this, she would not do it at all. I foresee a very lot of hand-holding. Better that than her spending $1200 and never using it at all. Instead of taking upon yourself the responsibility to sort out the messes why not get a computer that won't have the messes? You can then direct your efforts to the real challenge: teaching her how to use the computer. I wouldn't know how. Nor do I want to spend the necessary hours on her machine to figure it out. Considering all of this, I think she'd be safest with a cable connection behind a firewall Depends on what is more reliable in her area. I think DSL is usually more reliable. Not in this area. We're all too far from the phone co to get DSL, but we all have cable available. all desktop icons hidden except for a word processor, My Documents, Firefox and a stand-alone email icon. What does she need a word processor for? Because she likes to write. She has occasionally written articles and submitted them for publication. She has always written in longhand and had someone else type them for her. What does she need an email program for? Because she will understand that better. I don't want to have her launching a whole bunch of stuff at once. Her grown kids and grands are far away, and she will want to receive photos. I want a mail program that will detach the photos and file them, so at least I can find them. Keep it simple. Set her up with Gmail. If she must print out a letter she can type it in Gmail and print from there. I would have the computer automatically launch FireFox and make the home page Gmail. Put some icons at the bookmarks toolbar for the other things she needs. Keep it simple. That's what I plan to do. Manually launch a browser with a blank page and teach her to use bookmarks. And not confuse it with her email. With a very basic understanding of how it really works, she just might progress. By setting up magic in the beginning, she has no hope of learning. I deal with too many people like that all the time. Sue ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iMac monitors
My 15 MBP has the matte screen. Its not as matte as the older white iBook screens, but is nothing like the new glossy. I'm very happy with my choice. I work with lots of overhead light and the reflections on other glossy screens is distracting to me. The glossy is nice and makes for a beautiful display, but I couldn't take the reflection. If that issue is important to you its worth clarifying before purchase. A trip to an Apple store or other retail place, or to see a friend's new iMac is what I'd do. cb On Oct 2, 2007, at 10:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just helped a friend pick out a portable Mac (bought a Macbook Pro with a 15 monitor). The Macbook Pro came with a choice of monitors -- matte screen or glare screen. My friend chose the matte screen. My guess (my hope!) is that the iMacs also come with a choice of screens. The glare screen looks annoying. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wife just got a 24 iMac. monitor is superb. has stupid gloss finish, so if bright lights around, can have reflection problems. the rest of the world has matt finish. i think early imacs have matt finish. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Business Cards [Was: Printing pains and computer...
I was in a Staples recently and noticed their sample book of cards. Seems they keep one, assuming the customer says ok, to show their work. I'm not a typesetting sort.. The cards were glossy without raised type (they had a more concise term for that). They can put a color logo and any text you want, however you want it. They didn't require massive numbers of cards to print. They print in the store and it looked like a while you shop or hang out and wait timeframe. I forget the price details, but thought it sounded cheap for a box of basic cards. cb On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: And, just when you think you've figured out a solution for how to get some business cards together on very short notice (without spending much moola) by learning how to print them yourself, of course the printer or something or many things involved decide not to cooperate, and even play a bad joke, by making it almost appear at one point that its actually working. I have read that Staples and Office Depot will now print up a batch of business cards on the spot for low cost. Has anyone tried this? ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] G5 grace period question
Our 1.6GHz G5 iMac died this morning. Bad logic board it seems. The pinch is our 3y AppleCare expired two weeks ago. Does anyone have an experience with Apple and grace periods or wiggle room? Charles * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] G5 grace period question
Thanks for confirming our experience Tom. We thought we couldn't be happier with our computer experience before.. now we're closer to *knowing* we couldn't be happier with our computers. Might even end up putting onto the car, one of the many white Apple stickers we have laying around here. I didn't buy a lottery ticket btw.. figuring we pay enough taxes. Charles On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Our G5 repair has resolved. We called Apple Should I buy a lottery ticket tomorrow or what? This is not an unusual story. Apple's excellent customer service will often bend over backwards to treat a customer right. So you should not generalize. You won't win the lottery and there are still PC vendors out there who will screw you at the slightest opportunity. ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] IP camera osx
I'm looking for a wireless IP camera that can be config'd and managed by OSX v1.4.11 (I think I'm following Tom and holding off a bit on 10.5). I've found cameras in the past that were supposed to run under OSX but needed first to be set up under Windows. As a result, I've never gotten one going. Does anyone know of a mfgr or vendor I might check with a higher probability of success? Charles * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] IP camera osx
Yes.. but of course not until after I posted my question! I've been so used to not finding anything that I'd given up. I found the non-ActiveX (is that what used to be called OLE?) cameras that Tom mentioned in his reply. I even found several selling at a site called macmall.com. It looks like the remaining hinderance is me shedding a few hundred dollars. On Nov 20, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Jordan wrote: I just did a Google search of wireless camera Mac, without the quotes, and saw some promising hits. Did you try that? Charles Ballinger wrote: I'm looking for a wireless IP camera that can be config'd and managed by OSX v1.4.11 (I think I'm following Tom and holding off a bit on 10.5). I've found cameras in the past that were supposed to run under OSX but needed first to be set up under Windows. As a result, I've never gotten one going. Does anyone know of a mfgr or vendor I might check with a higher probability of success? ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?
The Public Risk Management Association wants to use Excel as a database? Makes you want to say, Hmmm... g cb On Feb 6, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Constance Warner wrote: And does anyone else have any talking points on why it's a bad idea to replace a perfectly reliable, crash-proof database with an Excel spreadsheet? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Highlighting PDFs
Micheal, This might not help you with given you're on XP. I use an OSX app called Skim to manage and annotate sources for my papers. Its a fantastic tool. Might even make it worth going to a Mac. Charles http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/ Skim is a PDF reader and note-taker for OS X. It is designed to help you read and annotate scientific papers in PDF, but is also great for viewing any PDF file. Stop printing and start skimming. Explore the links to the right to investigate Skim and consider helping out with the project. Features: * Viewing PDFs * Adding and editing notes * Highlighting important text * Making snapshots for easy reference * Navigation using table of contents or thumbnails * View all your notes and highlights * Convenient reading in full screen * Giving powerful presentations * Handy preview of internal links * Focus using a reading bar * Magnification tool * Extensive AppleScript support * Bookmarks * Support for Apple Remote Control * Interaction with LaTeX and PDFSync * Spotlight support * Highly customizable * And much more... On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Michael S. Altus wrote: I might be ordering PDF files of medical journal articles and might have to highlight them to support statements in text of an article that I am working on. I have a Windows XP computer. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] is anyone using jott.com
There are other voice recognition systems using phones.. to transcribe medical record entries for example. I couldn't find anything on the jott site about how long messages can be. What I don't understand is how voice recognition can work so well over a phone while a quality mic and few GHz of computing power in a quiet office don't even come close. That said, has anyone had good experience with current OSX VR technology? Charles - who lives with a Palm TX that I seldom use, an alphanumeric pager, and a cell phone that I use with one hand, even in my hydrocarbon-powered Suburban. On Mar 9, 2008, at 6:04 PM, GK wrote: http://jott.com or is there something else out there doing this same thing? /gayley (who does not live with a handheld or cell phone, other than actually in the car, handsfree, btw) -- -- Gayley Knight Mother Geek Productions dba Business Her Way businessherway.net ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Web Politicking
Same with my OSX firefox 2.0.0.11. I can't wait to hear an explanation. Chaels On Mar 10, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Richard P. wrote: If I let Firefox search for the right address by typing in whatsmyip.org and pressing enter, it comes up with the white screen and ip address as described below. If I type in the complete address: http://whatsmyip.org/ , or type in whatsmyip and Alt- Enter, it comes up with the correct home page. It is an unexpected result, to say the least but I don't know why. Perhaps it magnifies how one needs to be even more careful about what they plug into the address bar. This is the first time I've seen this. Richard P. FWIW, I don't see anything but my IP at that url. Very interesting. When I access whatismyip.org using FireFox (Win) I get a white page with just my IP listed. Show source shows no HTML, just the IP number. When I access whatismyip.org using FireFox (Mac) I get a colorful page with my IP in big type, a What's New blog, a sidebar full of other services, and another sidebar full of Google ads. Is this Mac politicking? And Firefox on Linux gets the same thing you list for Firefox/Win. ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?
The bad grammar points I agree with. The Gallery page has the artist's phone number. Ask them to call you. I doubt they will. Worst case, take the offered cashiers check. Charles On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote: My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale. He received this email Monday. We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, if the offer is legit. There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs). He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork itself. Any thoughts would be appreciated. david [Begin email] Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse From: Sarah Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good day to you out there. I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you namely... Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives. We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative artworks. I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day. Best regards, Sarah Baptiste __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [End email] ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *