[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-16 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> - Original Message - 
> From: nablus108 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:45 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
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> 
> Only learning from a rectified will continue the lineage. Teaching 
> outside of Maharishis blessing will obviously result in the 
> withdrawing of the same.
> 
> Maharishi can withdraw blessings obviously, but he cannot undo 
Kundalini Shakti, nor can he undo anything which has been done in 
the name of the Holy Tradition because previous teachers taught from 
the lineage of the whole tradition not just from Maharishi. If such 
wasn't his wish then he would have just had a picture of himself on 
people's altars. Moreover, since his teachings are directly derived 
from the Shakta lineage of Sri Vidya and specifically from the 
Lakshmi Tantra, therefore even he has to answer to that higher 
intelligence. She may, or may not side with him at this late date. 

Interesting points. However, everyone of us was introduced to the 
Holy Tradition by Maharishi. Trying to ignore that step, and fool 
him/herself to think that they are now dealing directly with for 
example Guru Dev, which I know several people claim to do and is 
exactly what Maharishi predicted i 1983, then they are just 
performing some very human, though disapointing activity; making 
mistakes.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Example of an external Sidhi

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I could be wrong but I always thought Salma's breasts were 
> surgically enhanced.

I've seen photos of her at 17, prior to her fame 
on Mexican TV, and there was a pretty 'magical
display' at that time, too, so I don't think 
there has been any enhancement except nature's.

But if you want evidence of a true siddhi, listen
to this description of the amazing powers of 
concentration displayed by actor Colin Farrell
during a nude love scene between the two of them
in 'Ask The Dust.' The speaker is Salma Hayek:

"I have to say that he never, when we were doing 
the scene, he did not once look down. I sometimes 
talk to guys when I am dressed and they talk to 
me like this [looking at her chest]. They don't 
know they're doing it. And Colin was, for all his 
reputation, I was expecting what's he going to do? 
Is he going to try to get too funny here? Never. 
Never took his eyes off mine. No. `How can I 
help,' completely supportive. I was very surprised 
by Colin Farrell because with all the stories you 
hear, I was like, `Oh my God.' But no."

Forget Vaj's stories of being to maintain a state
of transcendence for 10 minutes. That's nothing. 
Standing in front of a nude Salma Hayek and not
looking down -- now THAT is concentration.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Example of an external Sidhi

2006-06-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
>  wrote:
> >
> > ---
> > From "The Week", June 23, 2006, p. 16:
> > 
> > "Salma Hayek attributes the development of her career-enhancing
> > breasts to divine intervention, says "In Touch". As a teenager, 
Hayek
> > was flatchested, and in her despair, she decided to ask for God's
> > help.  "I went to a church that was supposed to do miracles and 
I put
> > my hands in holy water and I said, "Please, God, give me 
breasts,"
> > Hayek says.  Within just a few months, she began to swell into 
her
> > current shape.".
> 
> While I know it is not true in Salma's case, I don't
> think that the appearance of large breasts is neces-
> sarily proof of an external siddhi. Any guy who has
> encountered the Before and After effects of the 
> Wonderbra has learned that sometimes breast size 
> can be more of a 'magical display.'  :-)
>

I could be wrong but I always thought Salma's breasts were 
surgically enhanced.

However, I'm not as confident as I once was in identifying surgical 
enhancements...of any sort.  I refer specifically to those horrible 
lips of Angelina Jolie which I was 100% convinced were full of 
injected mutton.

Well, since then I have seen photos of her when she was a child and -
- yup! -- there were those big flappers, just like she has now.  So 
unless her parents were subjecting her to child abuse by injecting 
her lips when she was a mere 6-year-old, I must stand corrected.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Example of an external Sidhi

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---
> From "The Week", June 23, 2006, p. 16:
> 
> "Salma Hayek attributes the development of her career-enhancing
> breasts to divine intervention, says "In Touch". As a teenager, Hayek
> was flatchested, and in her despair, she decided to ask for God's
> help.  "I went to a church that was supposed to do miracles and I put
> my hands in holy water and I said, "Please, God, give me breasts,"
> Hayek says.  Within just a few months, she began to swell into her
> current shape.".

While I know it is not true in Salma's case, I don't
think that the appearance of large breasts is neces-
sarily proof of an external siddhi. Any guy who has
encountered the Before and After effects of the 
Wonderbra has learned that sometimes breast size 
can be more of a 'magical display.'  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] 'John, Paul, George and Ringo . . . and Lewis'

2006-06-16 Thread Robert Gimbel



         B O O K S   S T O R Y   RELATED LINKS» Have your say   » Subscribe to Archivestuff John, Paul, George and Ringo . . . and Lewis 15 June 2006 By FINLAY MCDONALDFor a young American reporter looking for an overseas assignment in early 1968, Vietnam would have been a logical destination.   The war was about to turn worse for the US and, as Lewis Lapham asks in this extraordinary little memoir: "Where else do journalists forage for the news if not in the deserts of misfortune?" Instead, he was despatched by the Saturday Evening Post in New York to the "mountains of infinite bliss" - the foothills of the Himalayas, to be precise -
 to spend time with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the guru of transcendental meditation, and his newest, very famous disciples, The Beatles.   This tiny book - about the size of a CD case and only 110 pages long - is a reprint of Lapham's newspaper essays on the experience.   Twenty pages of grainy photographs capture the weirdness of it all (Beach Boy Mike Love, folky Donovan Leitch and actresses Mia Farrow and Jane Asher were also present), as everyone apparently tried hard to look suitably serene.   An act of vanity or publishing suicide?   Not at all. As the only reporter to be admitted to the inner sanctum
 of the Maharishi's ashram, the author is not only an eyewitness to oddball history, but also a keen observer of the Western spiritual hunger that had probably peaked in the previous year's "Summer of Love" and was now about to crash and burn in the Tet Offensive, Nixon's murderous foreign policy and the eventual break-up and disillusionment of the fab four themselves (although they did get much of The White Album out of their Indian retreat).   And Lapham can write almost as well as Lennon and McCartney could compose. A long- serving editor of Harper's Magazine, he is a wise and gifted social and political commentator, whose talents must have been obvious to his own editor back in 1968, too. The America he documents so deftly, and, once inside the compound, the picture he draws so economically of the pop stars searching for transcendental enlightenment, combine to wonderful effect.
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[FairfieldLife] Example of an external Sidhi

2006-06-16 Thread matrixmonitor
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>From "The Week", June 23, 2006, p. 16:

"Salma Hayek attributes the development of her career-enhancing
breasts to divine intervention, says "In Touch". As a teenager, Hayek
was flatchested, and in her despair, she decided to ask for God's
help.  "I went to a church that was supposed to do miracles and I put
my hands in holy water and I said, "Please, God, give me breasts,"
Hayek says.  Within just a few months, she began to swell into her
current shape.".

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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > > > In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight 
> Time,  
> > > > > shempmcgurk@ writes:
> > > > >  
> > > > > Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...or...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  
> liberals.  
> > > > > It's not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  
> > > > > particular that decided to interject themselves into the 
> world 
> > > > > of politics based upon their victimhood, that Coulter 
> criticized.
> > > > 
> > > > By saying, among other things, that they were
> > > > "enjoying their husbands' deaths" and suggesting
> > > > their husbands must have been playing around with
> > > > other women.
> > > > 
> > > > (These would be the women, just for the record, whose
> > > > activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine
> > > > what really happened--despite the ferocious resistance
> > > > of the Bush administration.)
> > > > 
> > > > > And there have been other widows that have come out and 
> > > > > defended Ann Coulters remarks.
> > > > 
> > > > So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying their
> > > > husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
> > > > playing around with other women.
> > > 
> > > There are times, Judith, when your talent for invective
> > > is well-placed, and well-deserved. This is one of them.
> > 
> > I'd suggest you check the definition of
> > "invective," by the way; in this case it
> > doesn't fit very well.  And it isn't quite
> > clear what you might mean by "your talent
> > for" it "is well-placed, and well-deserved."
> > The "invective," such as it is, may be well
> > placed on, and well deserved by, Coulter;
> > but not my *talent* for it.  (Note that one
> > doesn't need hyphens in this construction.)
> >
> 
> 
> Hell froze over when Barry actually paid Billie a complement.

It wasn't a compliment.


> Billie replies thusly.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>
> In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> shempmcgurk@ writes:
>  
> Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> 
> ...or...
> 
> Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> 
> No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
> 
> Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  liberals.  
> It's not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  
> particular that decided to interject themselves into the world 
> of politics based upon their victimhood, that Coulter criticized.
> 
> 
> >>>By saying, among other things, that they were
> >>>"enjoying their husbands' deaths" and suggesting
> >>>their husbands must have been playing around with
> >>>other women.
> >>>
> >>>(These would be the women, just for the record, whose
> >>>activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine
> >>>what really happened--despite the ferocious resistance
> >>>of the Bush administration.)
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> And there have been other widows that have come out and 
> defended Ann Coulters remarks.
> 
> 
> >>>So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying their
> >>>husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
> >>>playing around with other women.
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>There are times, Judith, when your talent for invective
> >>is well-placed, and well-deserved. This is one of them.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I'd suggest you check the definition of
> >"invective," by the way; in this case it
> >doesn't fit very well.  And it isn't quite
> >clear what you might mean by "your talent
> >for" it "is well-placed, and well-deserved."
> >The "invective," such as it is, may be well
> >placed on, and well deserved by, Coulter;
> >but not my *talent* for it.  (Note that one
> >doesn't need hyphens in this construction.)
> >
> What about the use of the phrase "war on terror."  You cannot have a
war 
> on an adjective

??  Terror is a noun.

The problem with the phrase is that it's
*metaphorical*, like "war on drugs" or "war
on poverty."  You can't then say "We're at
war," and take advantage of all the various
things that become possible during wartime,
because "We're at war" is *not* metaphorical.



 but the right uses it all the time and because it has 
> become a reference point the left even uses it.  I guess it has
become a 
> "colloquial expression."
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the most significant inventions that have come from Fairfield?

2006-06-16 Thread shempmcgurk
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> What are the most significant inventions that have come from 
Fairfield?
>

I don't know if it's the MOST significant, but here's one:

http://www.greenkrete.com/body_index.html







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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > > In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight 
Time,  
> > > > shempmcgurk@ writes:
> > > >  
> > > > Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> > > > 
> > > > ...or...
> > > > 
> > > > Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> > > > 
> > > > No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
> > > > 
> > > > Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  
liberals.  
> > > > It's not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  
> > > > particular that decided to interject themselves into the 
world 
> > > > of politics based upon their victimhood, that Coulter 
criticized.
> > > 
> > > By saying, among other things, that they were
> > > "enjoying their husbands' deaths" and suggesting
> > > their husbands must have been playing around with
> > > other women.
> > > 
> > > (These would be the women, just for the record, whose
> > > activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine
> > > what really happened--despite the ferocious resistance
> > > of the Bush administration.)
> > > 
> > > > And there have been other widows that have come out and 
> > > > defended Ann Coulters remarks.
> > > 
> > > So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying their
> > > husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
> > > playing around with other women.
> > 
> > There are times, Judith, when your talent for invective
> > is well-placed, and well-deserved. This is one of them.
> 
> I'd suggest you check the definition of
> "invective," by the way; in this case it
> doesn't fit very well.  And it isn't quite
> clear what you might mean by "your talent
> for" it "is well-placed, and well-deserved."
> The "invective," such as it is, may be well
> placed on, and well deserved by, Coulter;
> but not my *talent* for it.  (Note that one
> doesn't need hyphens in this construction.)
>


Hell froze over when Barry actually paid Billie a complement.

Billie replies thusly.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>  
>  
> Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> 
> ...or...
> 
> Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> 
> No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  liberals.




I think Billie Batts will be amused that you consider me a "liberal"!







> It's not the 
> 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  particular that 
decided to 
> interject themselves into the world of politics based  upon their 
victimhood, that 
> Coulter criticized. And there have been other widows  that have 
come out and 
> defended Ann Coulters remarks. < As for the Wal-mart  campaign 
contribution 
> return, yes Hillary did insult a lot of people in an  attempt to 
win favor with the 
> unions. I'm just disappointed that Wal-mart would  take the money 
I spend 
> there to give to her  campaign.
>






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-16 Thread Vaj


On Jun 16, 2006, at 1:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I also remember the effect he had on other practitioners--esp. his   students--they were legendary (to put it very nicely).  As I rememebr, in dharma circles, there was some mention that either   he or a student of his made the claim he was a reincarnation of a   Tibetan master and that never panned out.   And how would it "pan out?"  Presumably, for the students, there would be "recognition". That's not to say that "recognition" is some wonderful carte blanche of reincarnated "proof"--it also has it's political bullshit, i.e. you could buy an incarnation(!).  I cannot remember if it was investigated, was there  ever an official letter issued (i.e. from the   office of HHDL)?  As if that would prove anything.  :-)Yeah, well see my above comments.  Look, it's OK for you to dislike Rama; he did a lot of things that are far from likable. It's just that I personally think you're making up all this stuff about legtimate Tibetan teachers saying these  things. I think *you're* saying them and attributing them to some unnamed Tibetan teacher. Prove me  wrong...give the name of the teacher or teachers who said all this and chances are I know them, and can verify it myself.Listen, I have no need to make this stuff up. I just don't have any investment in Zen Master Rama, so I do not tend to keep material on him around for years for that very reason. Again, it's *OK* to dislike Rama and to say anything against him you want to. But don't try to make your own feelings sound more "legitimate" by ascribing them to others, eh? Honestly I'd just rather say nothing than do that. And I don't think comment coming from a Buddhist teacher or lama gives this any more validity other than the fact that this (showing off with siddhis) is a rather arcane aspect of human interaction, and therefore (due to it's rather arcane nature) not something that just Joe Blow is going to be able to comment on with any authority. Therefore I found it helpful. Actually the whole idea of magical display is an interesting one to me, that's the primary reason I mentioned it, as I thought it might also be so for others.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
>>>  
>>>
In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
shempmcgurk@ writes:
 
Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows

...or...

Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.

No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...

Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  liberals.  
It's not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  
particular that decided to interject themselves into the world 
of politics based upon their victimhood, that Coulter criticized.


>>>By saying, among other things, that they were
>>>"enjoying their husbands' deaths" and suggesting
>>>their husbands must have been playing around with
>>>other women.
>>>
>>>(These would be the women, just for the record, whose
>>>activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine
>>>what really happened--despite the ferocious resistance
>>>of the Bush administration.)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
And there have been other widows that have come out and 
defended Ann Coulters remarks.


>>>So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying their
>>>husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
>>>playing around with other women.
>>>  
>>>
>>There are times, Judith, when your talent for invective
>>is well-placed, and well-deserved. This is one of them.
>>
>>
>
>I'd suggest you check the definition of
>"invective," by the way; in this case it
>doesn't fit very well.  And it isn't quite
>clear what you might mean by "your talent
>for" it "is well-placed, and well-deserved."
>The "invective," such as it is, may be well
>placed on, and well deserved by, Coulter;
>but not my *talent* for it.  (Note that one
>doesn't need hyphens in this construction.)
>
What about the use of the phrase "war on terror."  You cannot have a war 
on an adjective but the right uses it all the time and because it has 
become a reference point the left even uses it.  I guess it has become a 
"colloquial expression."



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[FairfieldLife] Erotophobia and the Politics of Lust

2006-06-16 Thread Vaj


A really good new discussion on Integral Naked is The Politics of Lust. Part 1. Power, Hierarchy, and (Non)Monogamy.  with	   	 Stuart Davis &John Incehttp://in.integralinstitute.org/talk.aspx?id=669They have a free first month and you could probably download most of the material you like in that first months trial, not just this great new talk.John Ince is an erotic arts enthusiast and the co-owner of The Art of Loving sexuality center in Vancouver. As a lawyer and writer he has been professionally involved with sexual issues for over 20 years, and is the author of The Politics of Lust.John and Stu begin the conversation by exploring “erotophobia,” or the irrational fear of sexuality. As John explains, when a natural and healthy part of oneself becomes stigmatized, this affects how you relate to sexuality both in yourself and in others. And, he continues, it is often a relationship of profound fear—one that stretches from the personal to the political, and back again.In fact, John believes that the way that power is distributed in a society will in many ways dictate how that society relates to sexuality. His ideas reflect the general philosophical stance of the pluralistic wave as it has taken shape in this culture over the last three decades or so (and explored, in positive ways, in numerous postmodern discourses, and criticized in such presentations as Boomeritis). Specifically, it is said that the more rigidly hierarchical a society is, where power flows “top down” in a dominance and submission model, then the more that society will fear and even repress sexuality (e.g., Saudi Arabia). But the more that power is distributed through a society based on equality and consensus, the more comfortable that society is likely to be with sexuality (e.g. Holland, parts of West Coast North America).Of course, John isn’t suggesting that all hierarchies are bad. If the police need to respond to an emergency, taking a vote on who should jump in the squad car is just ridiculous—someone needs to be in charge who can make quick decisions. Likewise, Stu points out, there are two different kinds of hierarchies in the world, and they have precisely opposite functions! Pathological or dominator hierarchies are of the sort that John was describing, where power is imperialistically exerted with no real concern for the wellbeing of those submitting to that force. Natural or growth hierarchies are ubiquitous in the universe, and are in fact the structure of increasing care, concern, and inclusiveness. One such growth hierarchy is atoms, molecules, cells, organisms. Another is letters, words, sentences, paragraphs. In both examples, each previous holon (or whole/part) is transcended-and-included in the subsequent holon. Organisms do not hate their molecules, and paragraphs do not repress their words—they embrace them in a greater whole! Nor could you have organisms and paragraphs without first having molecules and words, because the growth towards greater wholeness is directional, which is to say, hierarchical (holarchical).In human development, one important growth hierarchy follows moral development from egocentric (me), to ethnocentric (us), to worldcentric (all of us), to Kosmocentric (all sentient beings). And just like organisms and paragraphs, you cannot be Kosmocentric without first growing through and integrating the earlier perspectives that are fundamental and intrinsic to this deeper, wider embrace. In humans, dominator hierarchies only stem from the lower levels of the growth hierarchy (egocentric and ethnocentric) and primarily someone from worldcentric or higher could even imagine an alternative to authoritarian power structures. Therefore, the only way to get rid of dominator hierarchies is to encourage development through growth hierarchies! Unfortunately, because both are called hierarchies, many well-meaning folks in their efforts to get rid of the former, also toss the later, and out the window goes the only real key to this incredibly complex jigsaw puzzle.John and Stu go on to explore the meaning and relevance of monogamy in a post-conventional context, and the many ways one can have deeply loving, ethical, and stable relationships free of a strict “ownership” mentality with your partner. John also speaks about the need for a new kind of sex worker, one that is on par with any other kind of professional in our society. You don’t go to an alley for dental cleaning, a massage, or therapy, why on earth is that where you have to go if you want hands-on professional assistance with your sexual wellbeing?Think politics and integral theory exists only from the neck up? Not so! We invite you to join John and Stu as they dance along all the chakras, bringing a frisky and playful Eros to each
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 6/16/06 4:08:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Criticizing them is one thing. Saying they were
> enjoying their  husbands' deaths because their
> husbands had been unfaithful to them is  quite
> another.
> 
> I don't know where it says that in her book.

She didn't say it in her book, she said it on TV to
Matt Lauer of the Today show.

> But then she has  also been 
> misquoted as having said "they were happy that their husbands  were
> dead".

The correct quote is "enjoying their husbands' deaths."

> Her 
> reference to enjoying their husbands deaths  was because  of the 

It doesn't MATTER what it was "because of."  It
was an inexcusably vile thing to say, and of
course completely untrue.


> However  she never referred to them as being happy their 
> husbands were dead because they  had been unfaithful.

She did indeed suggest their husbands had been
unfaithful, the implication being the widows were
happy to get rid of them.

It doesn't get much more offensive than that.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: National Conference Call Saturday 1:30

2006-06-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
Actually, it feels like a step up from the Doctor this and Doctor that nonsense, although not by much.  Probably shows how low my expectations are that I would even feel that way.

Sal


On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:00 PM, bluecabbagerose wrote:

This says it all:

"their Excellencies"
"General Secretary"
"Prime Minister"

Are these guys playing house? Reminds me of when I was a kid: "You be 
the Princess, I'll be the Fairy God Mother. Billy can be King and 
Bobby can be the Knight. We'll let Mary be Queen. And Trixie (the 
dog) can be our horse."

I'll bet they wear crowns too! :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/16/06 4:08:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Criticizing them is one thing. Saying they wereenjoying their 
  husbands' deaths because theirhusbands had been unfaithful to them is 
  quiteanother.

I don't know where it says that in her book. But then she has 
also been misquoted as having said "they were happy that their husbands 
were dead". Her reference to enjoying their husbands deaths  was because 
 of the media attention these four were getting for blaming their 
husbands deaths on Bush,  demanding a commission to do an 
investigation and getting the compensations jacked up and having the media hang 
on to their every word. Ann Coulter referred to them as media heroes. However 
she never referred to them as being happy their husbands were dead because they 
had been unfaithful.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: National Conference Call Saturday 1:30

2006-06-16 Thread bluecabbagerose
This says it all:

"their Excellencies"
"General Secretary"
"Prime Minister"

Are these guys playing house? Reminds me of when I was a kid: "You be 
the Princess, I'll be the Fairy God Mother. Billy can be King and 
Bobby can be the Knight. We'll let Mary be Queen. And Trixie (the 
dog) can be our horse."

I'll bet they wear crowns too! :-)


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/16/06 4:08:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Criticizing them is one thing. Saying they wereenjoying their 
  husbands' deaths because theirhusbands had been unfaithful to them is 
  quiteanother.

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 6/16/06 10:56:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> (These  would be the women, just for the record, whose
> activism resulted in the  9/11 commission to determine
> what really happened--despite the ferocious  resistance
> of the Bush administration.o
> 
> > And there have  been other widows that have come out and 
> > defended Ann Coulters  remarks.
> 
> So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying  their
> husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
> playing around  with other women.
> 
> This commission didn't come up with anything different that  any  
> congressional committee could have come up with and they are already
 paid to do that. It 
> was no big deal.

  Right.  A Republican-controlled congressional
committee could certainly have been trusted to be
thoroughly objective.

> As for the *widows*, Coulter criticized  them for 

Criticizing them is one thing.  Saying they were
enjoying their husbands' deaths because their
husbands had been unfaithful to them is quite
another.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/16/06 1:19:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Shemp, you've got it wrong like the so many other liberals. It's 
  not the >911 windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in particular that 
  decided to >interject themselves into the world of politics based upon 
  their victimhood, that >Coulter criticized. And there have been other 
  widows that have come out and >defended Ann Coulters remarks. < As 
  for the Wal-mart campaign contribution >return, yes Hillary did insult 
  a lot of people in an attempt to win favor with the >unions. I'm just 
  disappointed that Wal-mart would take the money I spend >there to give 
  to her campaign.>> >You called Shemp a liberal. Now, 
  that's funny! :)

Thanks for pointing that out! Shemp, I apologize from the 
bottom of my heart. I meant to say you had wrong like so many liberals. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on Invincibility Courses

2006-06-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk"  wrote:
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> > I expect to go through hell.
> 
> Well then you have to bring along my favorite Far Side
> cartoon. It's set in hell. Flames, tortured souls, the
> whole bit. Two devils are watching this guy pushing 
> a wheelbarrow, probably forever. He's sweating, but
> there's this big, shit-eating grin on his face and he's
> whistling. One of the devils is saying to the other,
> "We've got to watch this guy...he's got a bad attitude."
> 
> May the 'tude be with you...
> 
Yeah, its a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there...





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/16/06 10:56:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(These 
  would be the women, just for the record, whoseactivism resulted in the 
  9/11 commission to determinewhat really happened--despite the ferocious 
  resistanceof the Bush administration.)> And there have 
  been other widows that have come out and > defended Ann Coulters 
  remarks.So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying 
  theirhusbands' deaths, presumably because they had beenplaying around 
  with other women.

This commission didn't come up with anything different that 
any  congressional committee could have come up with and they are already 
paid to do that. It was no big deal. As for the *widows*, Coulter criticized 
them for complaining about the original amount of the settlement that the 
average person was going to receive which they thought was far too little 
and should be much more. I think the average settlement ended up being 1.6 
million. By the way how much did Oklahoma City Bombing victims get? And she 
criticized the *Jersey girls* for their love of attention by the media and 
trying to make the commission all about them and their own personal 
suffering.
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2006-06-16 Thread cardemaister

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on Invincibility Courses

2006-06-16 Thread Kirk





Haha. Yeah, Drollo in TB is the most 
extremely wrathful form of Guru Rinpoche who immediately destroys all nondual 
conceptualization though the immediate force of recognition of ones nature 
as the rishi? rather the Dharmata, AKA rigpa.
 
For this reason all ones 
conceptuality is raised like a beard by Gilette and then shaved very close as if 
by an array of insanely sharp razors.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: TurquoiseB 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on 
Invincibility Courses
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
"Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I expect to go through 
hell.Well then you have to bring along my favorite Far Sidecartoon. 
It's set in hell. Flames, tortured souls, thewhole bit. Two devils are 
watching this guy pushing a wheelbarrow, probably forever. He's sweating, 
butthere's this big, shit-eating grin on his face and he'swhistling. One 
of the devils is saying to the other,"We've got to watch this guy...he's got 
a bad attitude."May the 'tude be with you...> - 
Original Message - > From: TurquoiseB > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:07 PM> Subject: [FairfieldLife] 
Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts onInvincibility Courses> > 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
"Kirk"  wrote:> > > > > > Ah, 
super, I hoeever will be only able to attend this > > > retreat 
below:> > > > August 4-5th Madison WI > > 1st 
Annual Younge Dorje Drollo "Drub-chod"> > Friday 6-9pm Initiation to 
the Dorje Drollo Mandala/ Tsog feast> > Saturday and Sunday 9am - 12pm 
/ 1pm- 5pm Recitation and ritual > >   activities of the 
Drollo Mandala> > Location: Quarry Arts Building Room 150> > 
(East of Whole Foods) at 715 Hill St.> > > > Rinpoche has 
asked the sangha to do a yearly short, but > > intensive Dorje Drollo 
Drub Chod. He strongly encourages > > all RSL sanghas throughout the 
world to join in the practice > > and tsog on this important day, 
dedicating the merit to all > > sentient beings and to world 
peace.> > > > A Drub Chod is a structured event over several 
days consisting > > of the Empowerment, instruction and practice of 
the sadhana. > > This gives students a chance to work on accumulation 
and > > meditation in Rinpoche's presence, receiving added blessings 
> > and guidance> > > > August 4th is the most 
auspicious day on the calendar as it > > marks the Anniversary of 
Padmasambhava's manifestation as > > Dorje Drollo to subdue all 
harmful corrupters of the Dharma. > > Therefore please make an effort 
to arrive the Friday evening > > of the event, which will continue 
through Saturday and Sunday > > > > Dorje Drollo is the main 
Heruka deity for the RSL sangha, having > > a direct connection to 
Rinpoche's Younge lineage of which he is > > the family lineage 
holder. The Terton who revealed this text is > > Younge Migyur Dorje 
and it is the most widely used Dorje Drollo > > practice in Tibet. In 
this uncommon version, Dorje Drollo is > > visualized in union with 
Sengdong-ma and protected by Mahakala. > > One must have Buddhist 
Refuge to participate, understand and > > accept the Tsog feast, and 
be clear about Samaya within the > > Vajrayana.> > Cool. 
Sounds like a neat event. So do you have expectations> about it? Not 
expectations in the bad sense :-)...I'm just > wondering what you are 
looking forward to.> > It's a nice inviation. Those who are not 
used to the> way that Tibetan traditions do these things may find> 
it a bit odd. Speaking to the group as a whole, if > you do, and have 
things to say about this invitation, > I for one would love to hear them. 
You're an interesting > and educated group of seekers, and it would be 
fascinating > to hear how you react to this style of presentation. 
> > I was struck by its simple, unassuming honesty. It 
just> lays out what the event is about, and assumes a certain> 
level of shared belief, and proficiency in that shared > belief, in the 
audience to whom it is addressed. > > I particularly like the list 
of prerequisites for the > retreat -- that is a masterpiece of 
understatement and > respect for one's peers. If you've been around the 
> Tibetan Buddhist block, you nod your head and say,> 
"Cool...sounds like it will be a nice group of people> attending." If you 
haven't, you realize that you have> more to learn. Nice gesture either 
way.> > > > > > > > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: An Interesting Music Video

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I love Garrison Keillor. Marvellous storyteller/
> bard. I've only seen one better in my life, Robin
> Williamson, originally of the Incredible String
> Band.

I don't know whether Robin's work is on iTunes 
or any of the other online music sources, but
if it is, you might search for "Finn and the
Old Man's House," from an album called "Wheel
Of Fortune," by John Renbourne and Robin
Williamson.

It's a fairly short tale, only 8 minutes long. 
I've seen Robin stretch a story out for an hour, 
with not a glimmer of boredom in the audience. 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > > shempmcgurk@ writes:
> > >  
> > > Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> > > 
> > > ...or...
> > > 
> > > Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> > > 
> > > No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
> > > 
> > > Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  liberals.  
> > > It's not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  
> > > particular that decided to interject themselves into the world 
> > > of politics based upon their victimhood, that Coulter criticized.
> > 
> > By saying, among other things, that they were
> > "enjoying their husbands' deaths" and suggesting
> > their husbands must have been playing around with
> > other women.
> > 
> > (These would be the women, just for the record, whose
> > activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine
> > what really happened--despite the ferocious resistance
> > of the Bush administration.)
> > 
> > > And there have been other widows that have come out and 
> > > defended Ann Coulters remarks.
> > 
> > So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying their
> > husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
> > playing around with other women.
> 
> There are times, Judith, when your talent for invective
> is well-placed, and well-deserved. This is one of them.

I'd suggest you check the definition of
"invective," by the way; in this case it
doesn't fit very well.  And it isn't quite
clear what you might mean by "your talent
for" it "is well-placed, and well-deserved."
The "invective," such as it is, may be well
placed on, and well deserved by, Coulter;
but not my *talent* for it.  (Note that one
doesn't need hyphens in this construction.)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: An Interesting Music Video

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know if you're a "Prairie Home Companion" fan but I 
> saw the film yesterday afternoon (Robert Altman directed) 
> and really enjoyed it.  I think it will be a bigger hit on 
> DVD.  The Harrelson and Reilly "Bad Jokes" song is a riot.
> 
> http://www.aprairiehomecompanionmovie.com/

I can't wait. But sadly, I'll have to. Maybe it
will come to Montpellier. But barring that, I'll
have to wait for the video or search the Torrent
wasteland. 

I love Garrison Keillor. Marvellous storyteller/
bard. I've only seen one better in my life, Robin
Williamson, originally of the Incredible String
Band.

> TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> >Ever wondered what it costs to produce a modern
> >music video? Ever wondered where else that money
> >could have gone? Here's one where it did:
> >
> >http://worldonfire.ca/
> >
> >Sarah McLachlan -- World On Fire
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on Invincibility Courses

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I expect to go through hell.

Well then you have to bring along my favorite Far Side
cartoon. It's set in hell. Flames, tortured souls, the
whole bit. Two devils are watching this guy pushing 
a wheelbarrow, probably forever. He's sweating, but
there's this big, shit-eating grin on his face and he's
whistling. One of the devils is saying to the other,
"We've got to watch this guy...he's got a bad attitude."

May the 'tude be with you...



> - Original Message - 
> From: TurquoiseB 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:07 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on
Invincibility Courses
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ah, super, I hoeever will be only able to attend this 
> > > retreat below:
> > 
> > August 4-5th Madison WI 
> > 1st Annual Younge Dorje Drollo "Drub-chod"
> > Friday 6-9pm Initiation to the Dorje Drollo Mandala/ Tsog feast
> > Saturday and Sunday 9am - 12pm / 1pm- 5pm Recitation and ritual 
> >   activities of the Drollo Mandala
> > Location: Quarry Arts Building Room 150
> > (East of Whole Foods) at 715 Hill St.
> > 
> > Rinpoche has asked the sangha to do a yearly short, but 
> > intensive Dorje Drollo Drub Chod. He strongly encourages 
> > all RSL sanghas throughout the world to join in the practice 
> > and tsog on this important day, dedicating the merit to all 
> > sentient beings and to world peace.
> > 
> > A Drub Chod is a structured event over several days consisting 
> > of the Empowerment, instruction and practice of the sadhana. 
> > This gives students a chance to work on accumulation and 
> > meditation in Rinpoche's presence, receiving added blessings 
> > and guidance
> > 
> > August 4th is the most auspicious day on the calendar as it 
> > marks the Anniversary of Padmasambhava's manifestation as 
> > Dorje Drollo to subdue all harmful corrupters of the Dharma. 
> > Therefore please make an effort to arrive the Friday evening 
> > of the event, which will continue through Saturday and Sunday 
> > 
> > Dorje Drollo is the main Heruka deity for the RSL sangha, having 
> > a direct connection to Rinpoche's Younge lineage of which he is 
> > the family lineage holder. The Terton who revealed this text is 
> > Younge Migyur Dorje and it is the most widely used Dorje Drollo 
> > practice in Tibet. In this uncommon version, Dorje Drollo is 
> > visualized in union with Sengdong-ma and protected by Mahakala. 
> > One must have Buddhist Refuge to participate, understand and 
> > accept the Tsog feast, and be clear about Samaya within the 
> > Vajrayana.
> 
> Cool. Sounds like a neat event. So do you have expectations
> about it? Not expectations in the bad sense :-)...I'm just 
> wondering what you are looking forward to.
> 
> It's a nice inviation. Those who are not used to the
> way that Tibetan traditions do these things may find
> it a bit odd. Speaking to the group as a whole, if 
> you do, and have things to say about this invitation, 
> I for one would love to hear them. You're an interesting 
> and educated group of seekers, and it would be fascinating 
> to hear how you react to this style of presentation. 
> 
> I was struck by its simple, unassuming honesty. It just
> lays out what the event is about, and assumes a certain
> level of shared belief, and proficiency in that shared 
> belief, in the audience to whom it is addressed. 
> 
> I particularly like the list of prerequisites for the 
> retreat -- that is a masterpiece of understatement and 
> respect for one's peers. If you've been around the 
> Tibetan Buddhist block, you nod your head and say,
> "Cool...sounds like it will be a nice group of people
> attending." If you haven't, you realize that you have
> more to learn. Nice gesture either way.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] An Interesting Music Video

2006-06-16 Thread Bhairitu
I don't know if you're a "Prairie Home Companion" fan but I saw the film 
yesterday afternoon (Robert Altman directed) and really enjoyed it.  I 
think it will be a bigger hit on DVD.  The Harrelson and Reilly "Bad 
Jokes" song is a riot.

http://www.aprairiehomecompanionmovie.com/

TurquoiseB wrote:

>Ever wondered what it costs to produce a modern
>music video? Ever wondered where else that money
>could have gone? Here's one where it did:
>
>http://worldonfire.ca/
>
>Sarah McLachlan -- World On Fire
>
>
>
>  
>



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on Invincibility Courses

2006-06-16 Thread Kirk





I expect to go through 
hell.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: TurquoiseB 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on 
Invincibility Courses
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
"Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > Ah, super, I 
hoeever will be only able to attend this > > retreat below:> 
> August 4-5th Madison WI > 1st Annual Younge Dorje Drollo 
"Drub-chod"> Friday 6-9pm Initiation to the Dorje Drollo Mandala/ Tsog 
feast> Saturday and Sunday 9am - 12pm / 1pm- 5pm Recitation and ritual 
>   activities of the Drollo Mandala> Location: Quarry 
Arts Building Room 150> (East of Whole Foods) at 715 Hill St.> 
> Rinpoche has asked the sangha to do a yearly short, but > 
intensive Dorje Drollo Drub Chod. He strongly encourages > all RSL 
sanghas throughout the world to join in the practice > and tsog on this 
important day, dedicating the merit to all > sentient beings and to world 
peace.> > A Drub Chod is a structured event over several days 
consisting > of the Empowerment, instruction and practice of the sadhana. 
> This gives students a chance to work on accumulation and > 
meditation in Rinpoche's presence, receiving added blessings > and 
guidance> > August 4th is the most auspicious day on the calendar 
as it > marks the Anniversary of Padmasambhava's manifestation as 
> Dorje Drollo to subdue all harmful corrupters of the Dharma. > 
Therefore please make an effort to arrive the Friday evening > of the 
event, which will continue through Saturday and Sunday > > Dorje 
Drollo is the main Heruka deity for the RSL sangha, having > a direct 
connection to Rinpoche's Younge lineage of which he is > the family 
lineage holder. The Terton who revealed this text is > Younge Migyur 
Dorje and it is the most widely used Dorje Drollo > practice in Tibet. In 
this uncommon version, Dorje Drollo is > visualized in union with 
Sengdong-ma and protected by Mahakala. > One must have Buddhist Refuge to 
participate, understand and > accept the Tsog feast, and be clear about 
Samaya within the > Vajrayana.Cool. Sounds like a neat event. So 
do you have expectationsabout it? Not expectations in the bad sense 
:-)...I'm just wondering what you are looking forward to.It's a nice 
inviation. Those who are not used to theway that Tibetan traditions do these 
things may findit a bit odd. Speaking to the group as a whole, if you 
do, and have things to say about this invitation, I for one would love to 
hear them. You're an interesting and educated group of seekers, and it would 
be fascinating to hear how you react to this style of presentation. 
I was struck by its simple, unassuming honesty. It justlays out what 
the event is about, and assumes a certainlevel of shared belief, and 
proficiency in that shared belief, in the audience to whom it is addressed. 
I particularly like the list of prerequisites for the retreat -- 
that is a masterpiece of understatement and respect for one's peers. If 
you've been around the Tibetan Buddhist block, you nod your head and 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:

> > > And there have been other widows that have come out and 
> > > defended Ann Coulters remarks.
 
> As an English major and a person who makes his living
> as a writer, I couldn't help but notice "widows that 
> have come out and defended Ann Coulters remarks." [sic]
> Not "widows *who* have come out..." All the difference
> in the world, even if it's unconscious. 
> 
> And with reason. Women who speak out, from Lysistrata 
> to Cindy Sheehan to these women, tend to be treated as 
> "things" rather than as human beings by those who bow
> to the status quo.

As an editor, I can assure you that "that" is
being used incresaingly instead of "who," for
men and women, in any context, even by educated
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[FairfieldLife] CD Baby Loves You

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
>From my brother. His name was actually in the email
where it says 'Dear Customer.' I love these people,
and I haven't even bought anything from them yet...


Dear Customer - 

Thanks for your order with CD Baby!

Shipping Address

Customer



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Your CDs have been gently taken from our CD Baby shelves 
with sterilized contamination-free gloves and placed onto 
a satin pillow.

A team of 50 employees inspected your CDs and polished 
them to make sure they were in the best possible condition 
before mailing.

Our packing specialist from Japan lit a candle and a hush 
fell over the crowd as he put your CDs into the finest 
gold-lined box that money can buy.

We all had a wonderful celebration afterwards and the 
whole party marched down the street to the post office 
where the entire town of Portland waved 'Bon Voyage!' 
to your package, on its way to you, in our private CD 
Baby jet on this day, Wednesday, June 14th.

I hope you had a wonderful time shopping at CD Baby.  
We sure did. Your picture is on our wall as "Customer 
of the Year".  We're all exhausted but can't wait for 
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[FairfieldLife] An Interesting Music Video

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB

Ever wondered what it costs to produce a modern
music video? Ever wondered where else that money
could have gone? Here's one where it did:

http://worldonfire.ca/

Sarah McLachlan -- World On Fire







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Re: [FairfieldLife] What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> 
> 
>Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
>
>...or...
>
>Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
>
>No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
>
>
>
>
>
>Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  liberals. It's not the 
>911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  particular that decided to 
>interject themselves into the world of politics based  upon their victimhood, 
>that 
>Coulter criticized. And there have been other widows  that have come out and 
>defended Ann Coulters remarks. < As for the Wal-mart  campaign contribution 
>return, yes Hillary did insult a lot of people in an  attempt to win favor 
>with the 
>unions. I'm just disappointed that Wal-mart would  take the money I spend 
>there to give to her  campaign.
>
>  
>
You called Shemp a liberal.  Now, that's funny! :)



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on Invincibility Courses

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Ah, super, I hoeever will be only able to attend this 
> > retreat below:
> 
> August 4-5th Madison WI 
> 1st Annual Younge Dorje Drollo "Drub-chod"
> Friday 6-9pm Initiation to the Dorje Drollo Mandala/ Tsog feast
> Saturday and Sunday 9am - 12pm / 1pm- 5pm Recitation and ritual 
>   activities of the Drollo Mandala
> Location: Quarry Arts Building Room 150
> (East of Whole Foods) at 715 Hill St.
> 
> Rinpoche has asked the sangha to do a yearly short, but 
> intensive Dorje Drollo Drub Chod. He strongly encourages 
> all RSL sanghas throughout the world to join in the practice 
> and tsog on this important day, dedicating the merit to all 
> sentient beings and to world peace.
> 
> A Drub Chod is a structured event over several days consisting 
> of the Empowerment, instruction and practice of the sadhana. 
> This gives students a chance to work on accumulation and 
> meditation in Rinpoche's presence, receiving added blessings 
> and guidance
> 
> August 4th is the most auspicious day on the calendar as it 
> marks the Anniversary of Padmasambhava's manifestation as 
> Dorje Drollo to subdue all harmful corrupters of the Dharma. 
> Therefore please make an effort to arrive the Friday evening 
> of the event, which will continue through Saturday and Sunday 
> 
> Dorje Drollo is the main Heruka deity for the RSL sangha, having 
> a direct connection to Rinpoche's Younge lineage of which he is 
> the family lineage holder. The Terton who revealed this text is 
> Younge Migyur Dorje and it is the most widely used Dorje Drollo 
> practice in Tibet. In this uncommon version, Dorje Drollo is 
> visualized in union with Sengdong-ma and protected by Mahakala. 
> One must have Buddhist Refuge to participate, understand and 
> accept the Tsog feast, and be clear about Samaya within the 
> Vajrayana.

Cool. Sounds like a neat event. So do you have expectations
about it? Not expectations in the bad sense :-)...I'm just 
wondering what you are looking forward to.

It's a nice inviation. Those who are not used to the
way that Tibetan traditions do these things may find
it a bit odd. Speaking to the group as a whole, if 
you do, and have things to say about this invitation, 
I for one would love to hear them. You're an interesting 
and educated group of seekers, and it would be fascinating 
to hear how you react to this style of presentation. 

I was struck by its simple, unassuming honesty. It just
lays out what the event is about, and assumes a certain
level of shared belief, and proficiency in that shared 
belief, in the audience to whom it is addressed. 

I particularly like the list of prerequisites for the 
retreat -- that is a masterpiece of understatement and 
respect for one's peers. If you've been around the 
Tibetan Buddhist block, you nod your head and say,
"Cool...sounds like it will be a nice group of people
attending." If you haven't, you realize that you have
more to learn. Nice gesture either way.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: FW: Super Discounts on Invincibility Courses

2006-06-16 Thread Kirk





Ah, super, I hoeever will be 
only able to attend this retreat below:
 

August 4-5th Madison WI 1st Annual Younge Dorje Drollo 
“Drub-chod”Friday 6-9pm Initiation to the Dorje Drollo Mandala/ Tsog 
feastSaturday and Sunday 9am – 12pm / 1pm- 5pm Recitation and ritual 
activities of the Drollo MandalaLocation: Quarry Arts Building Room 
150(East of Whole Foods) at 715 Hill St.
Rinpoche has asked the sangha to do a yearly short, but 
intensive Dorje Drollo Drub Chod. He strongly encourages all RSL sanghas 
throughout the world to join in the practice and tsog on this important day, 
dedicating the merit to all sentient beings and to world peace.A 
Drub Chod is a structured event over several days consisting of the Empowerment, 
instruction and practice of the sadhana. This gives students a chance to work on 
accumulation and meditation in Rinpoche’s presence, receiving added blessings 
and guidanceAugust 4th is the most auspicious day on the calendar as it 
marks the Anniversary of Padmasambhava’s manifestation as Dorje Drollo to subdue 
all harmful corrupters of the Dharma. Therefore please make an effort to arrive 
the Friday evening of the event, which will continue through Saturday and Sunday 
Dorje Drollo is the main Heruka deity for the RSL sangha, having a 
direct connection to Rinpoche’s Younge lineage of which he is the family lineage 
holder. The Terton who revealed this text is Younge Migyur Dorje and it is the 
most widely used Dorje Drollo practice in Tibet. In this uncommon version, Dorje 
Drollo is visualized in union with Sengdong-ma and protected by Mahakala. One 
must have Buddhist Refuge to participate, understand and accept the Tsog feast, 
and be clear about Samaya within the Vajrayana.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > shempmcgurk@ writes:
> >  
> > Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> > 
> > ...or...
> > 
> > Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> > 
> > No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
> > 
> > Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  liberals.  
> > It's not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  
> > particular that decided to interject themselves into the world 
> > of politics based upon their victimhood, that Coulter criticized.
> 
> By saying, among other things, that they were
> "enjoying their husbands' deaths" and suggesting
> their husbands must have been playing around with
> other women.
> 
> (These would be the women, just for the record, whose
> activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine
> what really happened--despite the ferocious resistance
> of the Bush administration.)
> 
> > And there have been other widows that have come out and 
> > defended Ann Coulters remarks.
> 
> So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying their
> husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
> playing around with other women.

There are times, Judith, when your talent for invective
is well-placed, and well-deserved. This is one of them.

As an English major and a person who makes his living
as a writer, I couldn't help but notice "widows that 
have come out and defended Ann Coulters remarks." [sic]
Not "widows *who* have come out..." All the difference
in the world, even if it's unconscious. 

And with reason. Women who speak out, from Lysistrata 
to Cindy Sheehan to these women, tend to be treated as 
"things" rather than as human beings by those who bow
to the status quo.

The reason men like Ann Coulter is that she has forgotten
what it is to be a woman, and thinks and acts like just
another stupid man.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Walker children

2006-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Walker children





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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  
> Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> 
> ...or...
> 
> Hillary  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> 
> No doubt in my mind  what's more offensive...
> 
> Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other  liberals. It's 
> not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in  particular that
> decided to interject themselves into the world of politics based  
> upon their victimhood, that Coulter criticized.

By saying, among other things, that they were
"enjoying their husbands' deaths" and suggesting
their husbands must have been playing around with
other women.

(These would be the women, just for the record, whose
activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine
what really happened--despite the ferocious resistance
of the Bush administration.)

> And there have been other widows  that have come out and 
> defended Ann Coulters remarks.

So I guess *these* widows have been enjoying their
husbands' deaths, presumably because they had been
playing around with other women.







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[FairfieldLife] The Walker children

2006-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
Title: The Walker children





In case you know Dan and Heidi Walker (divorced) & family:
 
The Walker children - Lizzie, Timmy and Rose - were seriously hurt in an auto accident and need our prayers desperately. They are in Nashville TN. 
 
This family is from Fairfield and are in serious condition. Please pray for them.
 
Love
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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: National Conference Call Saturday 1:30

2006-06-16 Thread WLeed3





 
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Dear Meditators, Sidhas and Governors,

 

Please join the following Conference Call with their Excellencies Dr. Neil Paterson, General Secretary
of the Global Parliamernt of World Peace and 

Dr. Bevan Morris,
Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace
to work with us everyday to implement the programs for creating
national invincibility in Canada.

 

 on Saturday, June 17,
at 1:30 PM EDT (Ottawa
time).

 

Please call the Dial-in Number: (605)
990-0001
and then enter the Access code: 685155# when prompted

 

INSTRUCTIONS

When you use your free conference call number you will need to organize every
one in your call by notifying them of the date, time, dial in number and access
code of your conference. All parties will call the same dial in number and
enter the same access code followed by the # key. Once in a call every caller
will be able to talk. All participants will have access to these touch tone
commands.

ENTERING ACCESS CODES

When prompted enter the access code that has been assigned to you followed by
the # key. 123456# access to participant feature keys
PARTICIPANT FEATURE KEYS
3 Exit - exit the conference call
4 Instructions - conference instructions
6 Mute/Unmute - caller controlled muting

DETAILED TOUCH TONE EXPLANATION
Exit conference 3 key
Pressing 3 Takes the individual user out of the
conference call and back into the lobby.

Mute 6 key
Pressing 6 will mute the line of the individual caller pressing 6 -
Pressing 6 again will un-mute the line.

 

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Hello 
dear friends.
 
This is 
the message we have been waiting for!
 
I would 
like to ask the Sidhas from Hamilton to contact me with the information 
which weekdays it is convenient to join us for a group practice. We can do it 
practically every evening at McMaster University, the Information Technology 
Building.
 
Jai Guru Dev
Looking 
forward to seeing you in Huntsville, 
Yotka
*Yotka Rickard, 
Ph.D.Maharishi Enlightenment Centre Hamiltonhttp://www.tm-hamilton.n3.net/The Transcendental 
Meditation Program"Peace of Mind for World Peace" 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 15, 
2006 10:02 PMTo: undisclosed-recipients:Subject: Super 
Discounts on Invincibility Courses





  
  
 
  

  
  

  
  All Sidhas and Governors Invited to Respond to Maharishi's 
  Call
  Come for Invincibility Courses this 
  Summer 
  Course Fees Reduced by over 
  40%! 
  Following Maharishi's call for greater 
  coherence in Canada, Maharishi World Peace Bay is inviting every Yogic 
  Flyer to come and create a great wave of coherence and peace across the 
  country this summer.  It is our 
  very great joy to announce our latest fee structure and schedule of 
  summer-long courses. Everything is being done to make these courses as 
  enjoyable and effective as possible.  Large comfortable tents 
  oriented to the east are being arranged for our TM and TM-Sidhi practice 
  to maximize the Maharishi Effect; new foam is being purchased for greater 
  comfort; and course participants will continue to enjoy exquisite dining 
  and private rooms.
  Three 
  Tiers of Participation (Prices include 7% GST)
  Invincibility Courses$695/week ($895 for Guru Purnima Week July 8-15)The first of our 
  eight consecutive weeks of Invincibility WPAs begins on Friday, June 30, 
  and after that they will run Saturday to Saturday until August 26.  
  Enjoy the deep silence and exquisite beauty of Huntsville in summer while 
  treating yourself to the profound rest and rejuvenation of a settled and 
  structured course routine.   
  Creating 
  Coherence Program (CCP)$565/weekCCP 
  (minimum one week) includes extended practice of the TM and TM-Sidhi 
  Program and evening knowledge meetings.  Afternoons are available for 
  personal work or projects. (Note:  Reservation preference is being 
  given to WPA participants, but we look forward to welcoming CCP applicants 
  as space permits).   
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  ProgramOur popular work-study program allows volunteers to earn one 
  course day for every three days of work.  It will be open for 
  applicants throughout the summer.  Enjoy summer on beautiful Lake of 
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  Start and Departure DatesOur 
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[FairfieldLife] galaxy song

2006-06-16 Thread mahdeealoo
Although the information contained is now updated, enjoy for what it is...the 
place.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows...or...Hillary 
  Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.No doubt in my mind 
  what's more offensive...

Shemp, you've got it  wrong like the so many other 
liberals. It's not the 911  windows , as in all of them. It's 4 in 
particular that decided to interject themselves into the world of politics based 
upon their victimhood, that Coulter criticized. And there have been other widows 
that have come out and defended Ann Coulters remarks. < As for the Wal-mart 
campaign contribution return, yes Hillary did insult a lot of people in an 
attempt to win favor with the unions. I'm just disappointed that Wal-mart would 
take the money I spend there to give to her 
campaign.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: KW on "new physics and mysticism"

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> from a footnote (!) in Sex, Ecology, & Spirituality
> 
> 
>Nowhere are the catastrophes of taking monological sciences and  
> trying to make them into a complete "new paradigm" more obvious than  
> in the "new physics and mysticism" writers and theorists, whose names  
> are simply too legend to begin even a short list. When reductionists  
> have a spiritual experience (not generally dealt with in physics  
> textbooks), it usually acts as an incitement to commit philosophy,  
> and the result is not for the faint-hearted.
> 
> However wonderfully well intentioned, most of these theories—which  
> play on the theme that the "new physics" (quantum and relativistic)  
> supports/suggests/proves a mystically unified worldview—most of these  
> theories are totally crippled by trying to simply extend a flatland  
> monological paradigm into dialogical and translogical domains (more  
> of the flatland "bigger portions of bad food" approach). They  
> generally take certain mathematical formalisms (especially the  
> Schroedinger wave equation and its collapse upon measurement)

BTW, Wilber isn't dissing Schroedinger's take on
physics and mysticism here, just in case Vaj chose
this quote mentioning Schroedinger to suggest that
Wilber would dismiss the quote Curtis and I have
been discussing.

The quote comes from a Schroedinger essay that Wilber
included in the "Quantum Questions: Mystical Writings
of the World's Great Physicists" collection he edited
of examples of how physicists *should* deal with
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[FairfieldLife] Re: KW on "new physics and mysticism"

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:05 PM, sparaig wrote:

> > So, does he ever name names? What's his take on John Hagelin?
> 
> Not yet, that I've heard--but then Hagelin hasn't published best- 
> selling books (however KW has blasted, What the Bleep). He has more  
> directly gone after Fred Alan Wolf and some more popular theorists.

FWIW, from what I understand of Hagelin's approach,
it's very different from the Fred Alan Wolf-type
approach.  Whether Wilber would go after Hagelin,
I have no idea; and if he did, whether he'd do so
on the basis of correctly understanding what Hagelin
says, or just because Wilber assumes Hagelin is of
the same ilk as Wolf, I have no idea either.

It certainly would be fascinating to see a dialogue
between Wilber and Hagelin.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You made a number of new points that are helping me understand how you
> are seeing the quote.  It will take some time for me to unpack it.  I
> think this is worth the time.  It is as good a tool as any to discuss
> the relationship of mind and body and the possibility for universal
> consciousness.  The re-examination of those concepts is a big reason I
> am on this group.  It is challenging to address these concepts.  It
> reminds me of when I used to study Aristotle's metaphysics at MIU.  I
> remember reading an entire paragraph, every word, and it meant
> absolutely nothing! Word salad.  I would pick apart a few words,
> discover a concept and slowly tease out what the hell he was talking
> about.  So thanks for that.
> 
> It may take me a day or two to get back to this.  I have to travel for
> a few days.  But that will give me some time to figure out what the
> hell "I" am talking about!  And who is doing the talking...you
understand!

Indeed, well put.  Whenever...  Have a good trip!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: KW on "new physics and mysticism"

2006-06-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks Vaj,

When I get back I'll dig in!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jun 16, 2006, at 12:07 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > "But physicalists are
> >> so used to thinking that "most fundamental" means "most significant"
> >> that they believe all higher branches of knowledge must be grounded
> >> in least-depthed holons or not be grounded at all. Thus the constant
> >> tendency to "extend physics" (however imaginatively interpreted)
> >> directly to any and all domains."-
> >
> > Nice naildown!  I like what he says about physics.  I am looking
> > forward to hearing if he can deliver what he promises on the spiritual
> > side.
> 
> 
> If you have some particular topic you'd like to hear let me know. If  
> I have something close to that, I'll post it. His consciousness model  
> and AQAL ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqal ) and his implementation  
> of Spiral Dynamics (part of the developmental schema that was used to  
> help bring down Apartheid) are very interesting and bringing on board  
> politicans (Gore, Clinton, Jeb Bush, etc.).
> 
> KW has actually gone further on physics and stated that there are so  
> many holes in these theories that any religion (or quasi-religion)  
> can use them to their own ends. IMO TM, as a new religion, *Quantum  
> Vedism* (or Quantum Hinduism), does just this--and uses it as PR,  
> spin and it's mythos.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Sal,

I just found out it was John Brigante at sidhaland!  My mistake, sorry
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows
> 
> ...or...
> 
> Hillary Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart.
> 
> No doubt in my mind what's more offensive...
>


>From anyone else, I would assume the comment about 9/11 widows. From you, 
>given your 
willingness to troll is right up their with AC's?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: KW on "new physics and mysticism"

2006-06-16 Thread Vaj


On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:05 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  from a footnote (!) in Sex, Ecology, & Spirituality      Nowhere are the catastrophes of taking monological sciences and   trying to make them into a complete "new paradigm" more obvious than   in the "new physics and mysticism" writers and theorists, whose names   are simply too legend to begin even a short list. When reductionists   have a spiritual experience (not generally dealt with in physics   textbooks), it usually acts as an incitement to commit philosophy,   and the result is not for the faint-hearted.  However wonderfully well intentioned, most of these theories—which   play on the theme that the "new physics" (quantum and relativistic)   supports/suggests/proves a mystically unified worldview—most of these   theories are totally crippled by trying to simply extend a flatland   monological paradigm into dialogical and translogical domains (more   of the flatland "bigger portions of bad food" approach). They   generally take certain mathematical formalisms (especially the   Schroedinger wave equation and its collapse upon measurement) and   give them a very wide interpretation (despite the fact that   physicists themselves are sharply divided over how to interpret the   formalisms), and they then wed this very loose and generous   interpretation with their often equally loose interpretation of   mystical spirituality, and the result is supposed to be something   like, the new physics supports or even proves a mystical worldview.   (Physics and mysticism are pronounced cousins, even though we all   know what happens when cousins marry.)This inbred marriage, of   course, is promptly called "the new paradigm," and absolutely   everything else is swept aside and the New Era announced. Danah   Zohar: "The idea of a 'quantum society' stems from a conviction that   a whole new paradigm is emerging from our description of quantum   reality and that this paradigm can be extended to change radically   our perception of ourselves and the social world we want to live in.   A wider appreciation of quantum reality can give us the conceptual   foundations we need to bring about a positive revolution in   society" (The quantum society).From formalisms describing the lowest,   shallowest, least conscious, least-depthed holons in existence,   "extended to a paradigm" that is supposed to cover dialogical,   intersubjective, cultural exchange based on mutual understanding and   mutual recognition: this is more than a quantum leap, it is a   Guinness Book of Records leap of faith, and bad faith at that.   Quantum formalisms cannot even account for the fundamentals of   biology and autopoiesis, let alone economics, psychology, literature,   poetry, morals and ethics, to name a vital few. But physicalists are   so used to thinking that "most fundamental" means "most significant"   that they believe all higher branches of knowledge must be grounded   in least-depthed holons or not be grounded at all. Thus the constant   tendency to "extend physics" (however imaginatively interpreted)   directly to any and all domains. (...huge snip)   So, does he ever name names? What's his take on John Hagelin? Not yet, that I've heard--but then Hagelin hasn't published best-selling books (however KW has blasted, What the Bleep). He has more directly gone after Fred Alan Wolf and some more popular theorists.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: KW on "new physics and mysticism"

2006-06-16 Thread Vaj


On Jun 16, 2006, at 12:07 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:"But physicalists are so used to thinking that "most fundamental" means "most significant" that they believe all higher branches of knowledge must be grounded in least-depthed holons or not be grounded at all. Thus the constant tendency to "extend physics" (however imaginatively interpreted) directly to any and all domains."-  Nice naildown!  I like what he says about physics.  I am looking forward to hearing if he can deliver what he promises on the spiritual side. If you have some particular topic you'd like to hear let me know. If I have something close to that, I'll post it. His consciousness model and AQAL ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqal ) and his implementation of Spiral Dynamics (part of the developmental schema that was used to help bring down Apartheid) are very interesting and bringing on board politicans (Gore, Clinton, Jeb Bush, etc.). KW has actually gone further on physics and stated that there are so many holes in these theories that any religion (or quasi-religion) can use them to their own ends. IMO TM, as a new religion, *Quantum Vedism* (or Quantum Hinduism), does just this--and uses it as PR, spin and it's mythos. 
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