Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
What do you mean by incompatible? What do you mean by SSRS gives chanting "Om" to one and all. He hasn't given it to me. What is your knowledge of SSRS based on, direct experience or hearsay? --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SriSri gives chanting "Om" to one and all. > Incompatible. > In his meditation practice you DON'T always come > back to the mantra if > you are aware you aren't doing it. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > > > program. it is > > > incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole > of > > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis > program > > and it is completely compatable with MMY's > program. > > You don't know what you're talking about. > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
SriSri gives chanting "Om" to one and all. Incompatible. In his meditation practice you DON'T always come back to the mantra if you are aware you aren't doing it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > > program. it is > > incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program > and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. > You don't know what you're talking about. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- rmy108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me > > that if he were > > really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud > > enough of that > > fact to use it to his advantage. MMY is world > > famous, as is TM. By > > mentioning that, it would give him credibility in > > some people's > > mind. > > I don't think it really would. I don't think that the > TMO and MMY have the best image in the world and there > are many people who are now getting involved in > spiritual pursuits that have never heard of MMY or TM. > > > > But besides that, it is traditional in India > > to always ,at > > least mention your master. Look at how MMY always > > does that. > > It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS > > teachers that he has > > a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing > > official has ever > > been said. I think this could be a belief system > > among his followers > > (especially TM people who are with him), so they > > don't have to deal > > with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not > > approved of by MMY? > > I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might > have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the > above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship > between MMY and SSRS is something between them. What > MMY says about SSRS publically is one thing and what > he says about him privately is another. By the way, I > always thought that MMY's comment about SSRS, > "Meditators should watch out for sugar-coated poison." > was quite the compliment. This is one of those > "guru-speak" things. I say this because of my direct > experiences with MMY as "Blazing Brahman" and my > direct experiences with SSRS as "Blazing Brahman." MMY > couldn't say something negative about SSRS if he > tried. How could he? MMY "made" SSRS just like Guru > Dev "made" MMY. Someone like MMY, and SSRS for that > matter, use everything to facilitate realization in > those who have a relationship with them. MMY and SSRS > are just two faces of Brahman. Brahman has lots of > shiny, bright, glowing faces and its own amazing > dharma of Self-Realization. So, for people "in the know," MMY was paying SSRS quite a complement, but for virtually everyone else, he was giving out a deadly insult? Um... God created the world in 7 24-hour days, but you must have faith to believe this because God created all the evidence of evolution and geological age in order to weed out the ones that will choose reason over faith Have I got that right? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- rmy108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me > that if he were > really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud > enough of that > fact to use it to his advantage. MMY is world > famous, as is TM. By > mentioning that, it would give him credibility in > some people's > mind. I don't think it really would. I don't think that the TMO and MMY have the best image in the world and there are many people who are now getting involved in spiritual pursuits that have never heard of MMY or TM. But besides that, it is traditional in India > to always ,at > least mention your master. Look at how MMY always > does that. > It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS > teachers that he has > a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing > official has ever > been said. I think this could be a belief system > among his followers > (especially TM people who are with him), so they > don't have to deal > with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not > approved of by MMY? I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship between MMY and SSRS is something between them. What MMY says about SSRS publically is one thing and what he says about him privately is another. By the way, I always thought that MMY's comment about SSRS, "Meditators should watch out for sugar-coated poison." was quite the compliment. This is one of those "guru-speak" things. I say this because of my direct experiences with MMY as "Blazing Brahman" and my direct experiences with SSRS as "Blazing Brahman." MMY couldn't say something negative about SSRS if he tried. How could he? MMY "made" SSRS just like Guru Dev "made" MMY. Someone like MMY, and SSRS for that matter, use everything to facilitate realization in those who have a relationship with them. MMY and SSRS are just two faces of Brahman. Brahman has lots of shiny, bright, glowing faces and its own amazing dharma of Self-Realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- rmy108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is the official position of the art of > > living > > > > organization > > > > > regarding whether Maharishi approves of what > > SSRS > > > > is doing? I tried > > > > > to ask him directly once and he skirted the > > > > question. > > > > > I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY > > said > > > > of SSRS "candy > > > > > coated poison" > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where > > he > > > > says (gross > > > > paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM > > > > should go ahead and > > > > do it as long they do it correctly, is actually > > > > meant to refer to > > > > SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM > > teachers > > > > (as is often > > > > presupposed). > > > > > > > > Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock > > of > > > > pranayama and > > > > meditation instruction in India where he > > initiated > > > > more people into > > > > inner space than any known human in historical > > > > times: millions of > > > > humans. All at once. > > > > > > > > I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. > > > > > > SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. > > As > > > SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know > > and > > > those who don't, don't. > > > > > > > > > IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never > > mentioned in any of > > their publicity materials that he was MMY's > > disciple? > > He "is " MMY's disciple, not was. As to why he doesn't > say anything, unless he is directly asked by someone, > you'll have to ask him and MMY about that. Anything I > or you would say would just be speculation at best and > projection at worst. > > > I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me that if he were really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud enough of that fact to use it to his advantage. MMY is world famous, as is TM. By mentioning that, it would give him credibility in some people's mind. But besides that, it is traditional in India to always ,at least mention your master. Look at how MMY always does that. It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS teachers that he has a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing official has ever been said. I think this could be a belief system among his followers (especially TM people who are with him), so they don't have to deal with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not approved of by MMY? > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- rmy108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: > > > > > > > What is the official position of the art of > living > > > organization > > > > regarding whether Maharishi approves of what > SSRS > > > is doing? I tried > > > > to ask him directly once and he skirted the > > > question. > > > > I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY > said > > > of SSRS "candy > > > > coated poison" > > > > > > > > > I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where > he > > > says (gross > > > paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM > > > should go ahead and > > > do it as long they do it correctly, is actually > > > meant to refer to > > > SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM > teachers > > > (as is often > > > presupposed). > > > > > > Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock > of > > > pranayama and > > > meditation instruction in India where he > initiated > > > more people into > > > inner space than any known human in historical > > > times: millions of > > > humans. All at once. > > > > > > I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. > > > > SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. > As > > SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know > and > > those who don't, don't. > > > > > > IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never > mentioned in any of > their publicity materials that he was MMY's > disciple? He "is " MMY's disciple, not was. As to why he doesn't say anything, unless he is directly asked by someone, you'll have to ask him and MMY about that. Anything I or you would say would just be speculation at best and projection at worst. > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > --- shukra69 wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > > >> program. it is > > >> incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > > > > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of > > > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program > > > and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. > > > You don't know what you're talking about. > > > I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are > compatible or not; > I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what > Maharishi teaches; > I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this > teaching; > In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra; > Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him. > That's all. > I just wanted to bitch. > Nothing personal; > I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi > teaches, and just never give him any credit. > > Deepak Chopra is a persona-non-grata in the TMO. As a TM-Teacher we were not allowed to even mention his name - and use any tape or book that could refer to him. I think it is the same with Chopra. He is not allowed to refer to MMY - because the TMO is afraid to be mixed with Chopra. Chopra use a lot of techniques that obviously not comes from MMY - just read his books - and you will see that. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: > > > What is the official position of the art of living organization > > regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried > > to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. > > I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS "candy > > coated poison" > > > I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross > paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and > do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to > SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers (as is often > presupposed). > > Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and > meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into > inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of > humans. All at once. > > I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. > Except, as far as I can tell, he initiated them into his breathing technique, not meditation... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: > > > > > What is the official position of the art of living > > organization > > > regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS > > is doing? I tried > > > to ask him directly once and he skirted the > > question. > > > I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said > > of SSRS "candy > > > coated poison" > > > > > > I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he > > says (gross > > paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM > > should go ahead and > > do it as long they do it correctly, is actually > > meant to refer to > > SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers > > (as is often > > presupposed). > > > > Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of > > pranayama and > > meditation instruction in India where he initiated > > more people into > > inner space than any known human in historical > > times: millions of > > humans. All at once. > > > > I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. > > SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. As > SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know and > those who don't, don't. > > > IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never mentioned in any of their publicity materials that he was MMY's disciple? > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: > > > What is the official position of the art of living > organization > > regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS > is doing? I tried > > to ask him directly once and he skirted the > question. > > I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said > of SSRS "candy > > coated poison" > > > I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he > says (gross > paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM > should go ahead and > do it as long they do it correctly, is actually > meant to refer to > SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers > (as is often > presupposed). > > Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of > pranayama and > meditation instruction in India where he initiated > more people into > inner space than any known human in historical > times: millions of > humans. All at once. > > I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. As SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know and those who don't, don't. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
I've taken and practiced the whole of SSRS's program -- at least as taught in week long advanced courses -- not TTCs, and done other tape courses -- Bhakti sutras, Ashtavakra Gita, etc. as far as was available up to 2001 or so (has a lot changed?). And have done TM for almost 40 years (yikes) and TM siddhis program. AoL is compatable with MMY's program in a strict sense. Many AoLers who are from TMland do TM meditation -- and do not take the the Aol Meditation initiation. But, in my experience, this does not mean a two-ways street of combatibility. TMO things (meditation, AV, etc...) are generally accepted in Aol (they now have there AV, so maybe there is some "bias" now). But Aol things would hardly be accepted in the TMO: bajans, hugging saints (pundit-ji), estatic stuff, guided meditations, mood making (per TM POV, not AoL's, eg. "I belong to you" embrace of 500 CPs, new age / traditional exercises of staring in to others eyes, telling "life" stories, sitting down and findingnothing but good things in a partner/stranger, etc. And, when I was active in AoL, it was clear there was a line. Many Aolers, when i was introduced to them as a TMer, said, "another one crosses the line.". The presumption was, there is no going back. The TMO will never accept you back now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > > program. it is > > incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program > and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. > You don't know what you're talking about. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: > > > What is the official position of the art of living organization > > regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried > > to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. > > I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS "candy > > coated poison" > > > I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross > paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and > do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to > SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers (as is often > presupposed). > > Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and > meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into > inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of > humans. All at once. > > I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. And when we have thoughts, we silently, effortless come back to the mantra. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS "candy coated poison" I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed).Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once.I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > > program. it is > > incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program > and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. > You don't know what you're talking about. Enjoy: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/87381 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote: > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: > >> > >>> --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > > A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > program. it is > incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > >>> > >>> Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole > >> of > >>> SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis > >> program > >>> and it is completely compatable with MMY's > >> program. > >>> You don't know what you're talking about. > >> > >> > >> Thanks Dr. Pete! > > > > I love these people that talk about something they > > have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think > > I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation > > technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat > > Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world > > will co-author the article with me. > > > Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be > sure to maintain purity! > What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS "candy coated poison" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote:--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. Thanks Dr. Pete! I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are compatible or not; I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what Maharishi teaches; I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this teaching; In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra; Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him. That's all. I just wanted to bitch. Nothing personal; I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi teaches, and just never give him any credit. It's generic dude. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > > >> program. it is > > >> incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > > > > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole > of > > > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis > program > > > and it is completely compatable with MMY's > program. > > > You don't know what you're talking about. > > > I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which > Ravi teaches are > compatible or not; > I assume they would be, since I was inferring that > they are what > Maharishi teaches; > I was just wondering how much credit he gives to > Maharishi, for this > teaching; > In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit > Deepak Chopra; > Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he > plagerized from him. > That's all. > I just wanted to bitch. > Nothing personal; > I just think it's strange that these people teach > what Maharishi > teaches, and just never give him any credit. I understand. SSRS primary emphasis is on teaching his Sudarshan Kriya and secondarily on what he calls Sahaj Samadhi meditation. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: > > > --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > >> program. it is > >> incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole > of > > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis > program > > and it is completely compatable with MMY's > program. > > You don't know what you're talking about. > > > Thanks Dr. Pete! I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: > > > --- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > >> program. it is > >> incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > > > Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of > > SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program > > and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. > > You don't know what you're talking about. > I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are compatible or not; I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what Maharishi teaches; I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this teaching; In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra; Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him. That's all. I just wanted to bitch. Nothing personal; I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi teaches, and just never give him any credit. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:--- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. Thanks Dr. Pete! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- shukra69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI > program. it is > incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:59 AM, shukra69 wrote:A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Incompatible in what way?We have a number of SSRI initiates here: is it really incompatible? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does this man, from India, who looks like Maharishi, when he was younger; really? > Did he get the techniques he sells, from Maharishi no ... > Well the TM technique, we know for sure, he got from Maharishi He doesn't teach TM ... > But what about this 'breath' technique, where does that come from... > I say, from my observation, it comes from his observing Maharishi breath; SriSri showed me it once in the 80's.No. > While in Samahdhi... > While I was on the video team, taping Maharishi in Fairfield; > "Back in the Day", (we thought they'd never end!), > Anyway, I would look at him, sitting on the couch; > And he would be barely breathing with his eyes closed; Its nothing like that. > I can see, how through observation, one could come up, > With a breath technique, that would mimic- > A Holy Man's breathing, Maharishi's breath... > R.G. A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. > > > - > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
