Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
To be completly honest I have no idea what test it was. I feel like I was overcharged $105 for felt/fiv test deworming and nasal flu vaccine. Is this normal. I'm a college senior and my income is moddest to say the least but was this a far price? I know the test kit was a small white plastic bowl that had a faint positive for the felv antigen but not antibody? Being bio major I thought that was weird. The vet mentioned that would indicate it got the antibody from its mother but not the virus. This kitten has an abnormal eye that is receeded so I'm thinking its mother tranmited it. I'll look into the lysine diet sup. Also are anti oxidants a good bet? I was thinking about giving her low doses of xango. Quentin Sonnier On Jul 29, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Try Missing Link in her moist food, but get the one in the silver package that is veterinary strength. It is for detoxing. It has to be purchased from a vet, and needs to be refrigerated after opening. Mine package was $21. for a lb. or so (?), and I have 5 cats that are currently on it. A package should last you 90 days, it expires @ 90 days after opening. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:11 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment To be completly honest I have no idea what test it was. I feel like I was overcharged $105 for felt/fiv test deworming and nasal flu vaccine. Is this normal. I'm a college senior and my income is moddest to say the least but was this a far price? I know the test kit was a small white plastic bowl that had a faint positive for the felv antigen but not antibody? Being bio major I thought that was weird. The vet mentioned that would indicate it got the antibody from its mother but not the virus. This kitten has an abnormal eye that is receeded so I'm thinking its mother tranmited it. I'll look into the lysine diet sup. Also are anti oxidants a good bet? I was thinking about giving her low doses of xango. Quentin Sonnier
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals
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Hi Quentin, Yes, $105 if normal if it included an office exam. My vet charges $35 for an office exam and just about anything else he does is $20-30 each, including tests and meds. Blood work is about $75. It's not cheap. Part of the reason is that the meds come from the same pharmaceutical companies that make human meds, so you know they are expensive. My vet will price match so if I can find it cheaper somewhere else, even online, like at Petmeds.com, he will match it. Yes, I think it is expensive, but the cost all depends on a vet's overhead costs and if they are greedy. lol. I would imagine you were charged for an office visit as well. One thing we always say here is if you are not comfortable with your vet, find one you are comfortable with. You can also shop around for ones that are less expensive, but be careful not to find someone who is a quack. I always like to talk to the vets on the phone, specifically asking them their philosophy on treating FeLV, before I will bring my kitty in. If they won't talk to me for a few minutes on the phone, I am not going to take my cat there. It is normal for FeLV+ mothers to pass the antibodies (correct term???) on to their offspring. The good thing is if this is how your kitty got it, he has a decent chance of seroconverting. Just make sure you are keeping his environment stress free. When you said 'college senior', I started seeing visions of Revenge of the Nerds and your poor kitty in my head...lololol. I don't know anything about anti-oxidants. If I were you, I'd repost with that as the subject line so you can get specific answers on that. Just don't give your kitty anything your vet doesn't ok. As you probably know, cat bodies are much different from human bodies and they can't always take the same things we can. Imagine poor dogs...they can't eat chocolate!!! lol. The lysine hopefully will help the eye. Elizabeth, one of the former members here and a good friend of mine, had a kitty whose third eyelid kept showing. I want to say she gave her kitty Acemmanan for it, but not sure. I'll ask her and get back to you. Best of luck to you and your furbaby. Please keep us posted. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:11:43 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment To be completly honest I have no idea what test it was. I feel like I was overcharged $105 for felt/fiv test deworming and nasal flu vaccine. Is this normal. I'm a college senior and my income is moddest to say the least but was this a far price? I know the test kit was a small white plastic bowl that had a faint positive for the felv antigen but not antibody? Being bio major I thought that was weird. The vet mentioned that would indicate it got the antibody from its mother but not the virus. This kitten has an abnormal eye that is receeded so I'm thinking its mother tranmited it. I'll look into the lysine diet sup. Also are anti oxidants a good bet? I was thinking about giving her low doses of xango. Quentin Sonnier On Jul 29, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus
RE: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Susan, I give SD C/D to all my cats since one of them needs it to prevent crystals forming in his urine. It is impossible to feed them separately. Since he started on it, he hasn't had any problems. What would you suggest I use instead? It's expensive food, and I know there has to be something better out there, but I absolutely don't have time right now to cook for the cats. Well, maybe I have time, but I think the initial time and cost of getting everything they need together in one meal would be tough for me--lots of research needed on my part before I attempt cooking for them. But, I've had my doubts as to the quality of Science Diet. I just don't know what else to do to help Bandit's urine problem. Thanks! :) Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Science Diet is nothing more than expensive junk food Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I meant to say are the two most important factors...lol. sorry. Also, what I mean by high quality diet is a high protein, no grains if you can. Nothing you can buy at Walmart will qualify for this. Cats are obligate carnivores and do not process grains at all. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html Before I found this group, I was feeding Science Diet to my furbabies. I did not know their little bodies don't process grains. Now I feed Innova Evo, a food I buy usually online, because it's cheaper. I can find it at about 3 or 4 places in Dallas. Can't get it at Petsmart, etc. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
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I don't know the answer to this question, but what Caroline said makes a lot of sense to me. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:38:54 PM Subject: RE: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Susan, I give SD C/D to all my cats since one of them needs it to prevent crystals forming in his urine. It is impossible to feed them separately. Since he started on it, he hasn't had any problems. What would you suggest I use instead? It's expensive food, and I know there has to be something better out there, but I absolutely don't have time right now to cook for the cats. Well, maybe I have time, but I think the initial time and cost of getting everything they need together in one meal would be tough for me--lots of research needed on my part before I attempt cooking for them. But, I've had my doubts as to the quality of Science Diet. I just don't know what else to do to help Bandit's urine problem. Thanks! :) Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Science Diet is nothing more than expensive junk food Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I meant to say are the two most important factors...lol. sorry. Also, what I mean by high quality diet is a high protein, no grains if you can. Nothing you can buy at Walmart will qualify for this. Cats are obligate carnivores and do not process grains at all. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html Before I found this group, I was feeding Science Diet to my furbabies. I did not know their little bodies don't process grains. Now I feed Innova Evo, a food I buy usually online, because it's cheaper. I can find it at about 3 or 4 places in Dallas. Can't get it at Petsmart, etc. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
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I use Royal Canin s/o. I get it from vet and it's expensive. I just give it to everyone. (7 cats) One of my cats gets crystals. tonya wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know the answer to this question, but what Caroline said makes a lot of sense to me. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:38:54 PM Subject: RE: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Susan, I give SD C/D to all my cats since one of them needs it to prevent crystals forming in his urine. It is impossible to feed them separately. Since he started on it, he hasn't had any problems. What would you suggest I use instead? It's expensive food, and I know there has to be something better out there, but I absolutely don't have time right now to cook for the cats. Well, maybe I have time, but I think the initial time and cost of getting everything they need together in one meal would be tough for me--lots of research needed on my part before I attempt cooking for them. But, I've had my doubts as to the quality of Science Diet. I just don't know what else to do to help Bandit's urine problem. Thanks! :) Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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Unless I am thinking of something else, Valtrex is a drug used to control herpes outbreaks in humans (I only know this because commercials are on TV all the time for it) I've never heard of giving it to a cat. On 7/29/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
i wouldn't give ANYTHING to kitty that I didn't know was safe. Some substances can be very toxic. If she has herpes, give Lysine - it's a proven winner. If I were trying to address the FELV visue, what I usually use it Interferon or ImmunoRegulin. Would *NOT* do Valtrex without more info, and my gut reaction is it doesn't sound like a possibilitly. Gloria On Jul 29, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Quentin Sonnier wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier __ __Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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I take Valtex - it IS a med for humans who have herpes infections. Never heard of it used for animals. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
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Try adding Just Born with colostrum or any colostrum supplement, Transfer Factor for Felines, a raw diet (you can buy it pre-made and frozen) with lots of chopped finely veggies and, most importantly, an alternative/holistic vet. The minute I found out Dixie tested positive (OK, after I stopped panicking and decided she was a keeper) I was on the phone with an alternative vet getting ideas and treatment. Dixie sees Dr. Betty Boswell about once a month and is doing wonderfully. I don't think she really needs to see her that often but it makes me feel better. Dr. Susan Maier (www.horizonvetserv.com) has really helped too. Dixie has her wonderful regular vets, Dr. Koehler and Dr. Bishop at Middletown Animal Hospital, but the alternative vets add a different prospective. Luckily the regular vets are very open. Some are not. The long and short of it is that Dixie tested positive over two years ago. The only sign she has had was stomatitis. A combination of PetzLife Brush Away, really good diet and Interferon has made even that symptom go awaymuch to the amazement of all the vets named. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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Hi Quentin, It sounds like you are just about where I am in being informed about how to treat a FeLV+ kitten. I came to this group to learn all I could from the people here, who that have been here, for a while and are experienced in caring for their Feline Leukemia Positive Kitties. I have read every post for a month and have never seen anyone mention Valtrex. Where did you see where Valtrex might be helpful in the treatment of FeLV? My five month old kitten was one of six kittens who contracted FeLV through her mother. Her mother tested positive, as did a couple of her siblings. I do not know if all siblings tested positive, but I did read if the mother is positive 100% of the kittens will test positive. My kitten had been bounced around to seven different homes before she came to me. I am counting the shelter she came from, three foster homes, then to me , then two more foster homes, then back to me. She is with me now. We are getting a routine... Her situation is not perfect , because she has to be seperated from my other cats and spends a lot of time alone. I try to give her a couple hours each day of love and time with me. I do let her in the yard to climb trees and follow me around while I weed and work in my flowers. Then it is back to a small area in my basement where she is now free outside of her large dog kennel and has her food, water,toys...She is a very loving ,sweet, social and energetic little girl and hates being alone. I'm telling you this , because it is not perfect, but probably less stressfull than being unsure of her environment and not having any security.She does feel at home now... If you have only your one little girl kitty, she should have no stress in her life and obviously all your love. I'm still trying to understand the difference between faint positives and strong positives...From what I have been reading, a faint, could mean either, she was just exposed or she is early into her disease? I have a vet that simply told me, a positive is a positive. She would not tell me if my little girl was faint or strong, but it looked quite clear to me ,so it was probaly a strong pos. My vet does try to be gentle with me. When it was realized my kitten was infected through her mother, my vet did give me hope by saying, often when the virus comes through the queen, the kittens have a good chance of throwing it. Then I hear too if it is an exposure, they have a good chance of throwing it. I give my kitten 500mg of Lysine a day and a multi-vitamin and a good diet. I really appreciated Wendy's advice to you and for now I'd would go with what she is telling you. There are so many good ideas here and it is great to have these people with all their accumulated information and experience to advise you. If I were a vet, I would try to learn from these guys. Sadly, most vets are not as informed as we all might hope...That is why we are here.. .Again, where did you come up with the Valtrex idea? For all we know, you may have come across something important, that none of us have seen yet? However, it is probably best to go with the medications and supplements proven effective and safe over time... I'm glad you found this group. You will really enjoy and learn from these guys. Glenda --- Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
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Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
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I know people who take Lysine supplements in lieu of taking Valtrex, or another herpes medication, due to the expense of Valtrex and/or aversion to taking too much prescription medication. Lysine supplements work to keep the Herpes Simplex virus at bay (which is what oral Valtrex claims to do) and has been very successful for the people that I know that take it. I take Lysine myself for an extra immune booster. -Caroline From:wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatmentDate:Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT)Hi Quentin,Welcome to the group.Bad idea on the Valtrex.Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended.I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats.Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI.I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals.She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one!We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away!It was wonderful!So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses.Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert.Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test.Which test did the vet do on her?Elisa or IFA?Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house.You might ask your vet about this.Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't.Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of.There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old!:)WendyDallas, TX"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~- Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AMSubject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatmentI have a sweet little black with white tipgirl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic.Quentin SonnierReady for the edge of your seat?Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.http://tv.yahoo.com/Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail.
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I meant to say are the two most important factors...lol. sorry. Also, what I mean by high quality diet is a high protein, no grains if you can. Nothing you can buy at Walmart will qualify for this. Cats are obligate carnivores and do not process grains at all. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html Before I found this group, I was feeding Science Diet to my furbabies. I did not know their little bodies don't process grains. Now I feed Innova Evo, a food I buy usually online, because it's cheaper. I can find it at about 3 or 4 places in Dallas. Can't get it at Petsmart, etc. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:16:25 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
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Valtex has been a wonder drug for me. After many years of flares on my waistline and above (leaving scars), I have not had even ONE outbreak since the Valtrex. It costs just $25 per month--which to me is a great bargain. Don't believe I would try it on any animal without specific OK from a medical professional. - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I know people who take Lysine supplements in lieu of taking Valtrex, or another herpes medication, due to the expense of Valtrex and/or aversion to taking too much prescription medication. Lysine supplements work to keep the Herpes Simplex virus at bay (which is what oral Valtrex claims to do) and has been very successful for the people that I know that take it. I take Lysine myself for an extra immune booster. -Caroline From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php -- PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best web mail-award-winning Windows Live Hotmail.
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We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We
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Science Diet is nothing more than expensive junk food Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I meant to say are the two most important factors...lol. sorry. Also, what I mean by high quality diet is a high protein, no grains if you can. Nothing you can buy at Walmart will qualify for this. Cats are obligate carnivores and do not process grains at all. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html Before I found this group, I was feeding Science Diet to my furbabies. I did not know their little bodies don't process grains. Now I feed Innova Evo, a food I buy usually online, because it's cheaper. I can find it at about 3 or 4 places in Dallas. Can't get it at Petsmart, etc. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
