Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
Marwan Sultan wrote: First thanks for you all, for the cooperating, My setup is as follow, Router <-> vr0 FreeBSD fxp0 <-> Switch <-> Clients Two NICs attached, vr0 connected to the router (internet interface) has the static 192.168.0.2 fxp0 connected to the Switch connected to clients acting as DHCP 192.168.182.1 and clients are assigned 192.168.182.* ofcourse.. kernel as you know configured for ipfw and NAT chillispot installed, and controlling the fxp0 device thro the DHCP assigning for clients the IPs. however chillispot is not an issue. This is the configuration, I think chillispot using pf rules. once a user will sign in, all blocks will be remmoved. just for the info, Hi Marwan, I have never used ipfw before, so I suggest to do a quick check what the NAT type is. Last time I checked, there was a simple client in the vovidia stun implementation. They also run a public server for testing. If your NAT type is not symmetric NAT, you can use STUN (you will need 2 ip addresses on the internet side of your gateway for STUN to work). If your NAT type is symmetric NAT, I suggest to look at UPNP. Most clients support it. If UPNP is not an options, I guess proxying the media streams, or rewriting the signaling is your only options left. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
First thanks for you all, for the cooperating, My setup is as follow, Router <-> vr0 FreeBSD fxp0 <-> Switch <-> Clients Two NICs attached, vr0 connected to the router (internet interface) has the static 192.168.0.2 fxp0 connected to the Switch connected to clients acting as DHCP 192.168.182.1 and clients are assigned 192.168.182.* ofcourse.. kernel as you know configured for ipfw and NAT chillispot installed, and controlling the fxp0 device thro the DHCP assigning for clients the IPs. however chillispot is not an issue. This is the configuration, I think chillispot using pf rules. once a user will sign in, all blocks will be remmoved. just for the info, Any I appreciate your help gurus, Any advices how to setup? Marwan Sultan Hi all, It is very possible to use VOIP behind a symmetric NAT, but STUN is not going to be any help. Depending on the setup and clients I have implemented a number of solutions over the past years. Unfortunately I haven't found a single solutions that always works. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
Kurt Dethier wrote: Derrick Edwards wrote: On Saturday 02 December 2006 09:22, Joe Holden wrote: Kurt Dethier wrote: STUN will only work if you have the correct NAT implementation on your gateway. If you are using pf, you get what the STUN RFC calls a symmetric NAT. STUN will not help you in such an implementation. I'm not sure how the other NAT solutions on FreeBSD are implemented. If you need a solution for a symmetric NAT, you need something that understands the signaling protocol and can add fw/nat rules on demand on your gateway, or a media proxy (like TURN). Kurt >> It is entirely possible to use voip behnd symmetric nat, but it also entirely depends on the setup, some more details will help. Hi, I am not sure of your setup either, but I have Vongae working behind a FreeBSD Firewall/Router using PF with NAT. Hi all, It is very possible to use VOIP behind a symmetric NAT, but STUN is not going to be any help. Depending on the setup and clients I have implemented a number of solutions over the past years. Unfortunately I haven't found a single solutions that always works. Kurt Forgive me if I'm not understanding the issue properly, but don't you have port-forwarding setup on the FreeBSD box for the machine that you are trying to use VoIP with? It seems like the problem would *sort* or be that simple to solve, unless the VoIP setup uses a P2P type configuration where it picks multiple ports for listening and transferring data. Maybe it's just my misunderstanding of VoIP.. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
Derrick Edwards wrote: On Saturday 02 December 2006 09:22, Joe Holden wrote: Kurt Dethier wrote: STUN will only work if you have the correct NAT implementation on your gateway. If you are using pf, you get what the STUN RFC calls a symmetric NAT. STUN will not help you in such an implementation. I'm not sure how the other NAT solutions on FreeBSD are implemented. If you need a solution for a symmetric NAT, you need something that understands the signaling protocol and can add fw/nat rules on demand on your gateway, or a media proxy (like TURN). Kurt >> It is entirely possible to use voip behnd symmetric nat, but it also entirely depends on the setup, some more details will help. Hi, I am not sure of your setup either, but I have Vongae working behind a FreeBSD Firewall/Router using PF with NAT. Hi all, It is very possible to use VOIP behind a symmetric NAT, but STUN is not going to be any help. Depending on the setup and clients I have implemented a number of solutions over the past years. Unfortunately I haven't found a single solutions that always works. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
On Saturday 02 December 2006 09:22, Joe Holden wrote: > Kurt Dethier wrote: > > Marwan Sultan wrote: > >> Hello All, > >> > >> Well, maybe the subject says all, > >> Im running 6.1R acting as NAT, gateway ofcourse, hotspot. > >> I have many clients trying to use Vonage, motorola, VoIP devices and > >> and few more products. > >> > >> The problem is as its described in some websites.. > >> They can call, receive a call, hear the dailtone but no one can hear > >> the other party. > >> > >> After researching i found out there is a problem iusing FreeBSD NAT > >> with voip protocols. > >> > >> i have been advised to use STUN servers, (Simple Traversal of UDP > >> through NATs.) > >> I found out there is net/stund port and its installed successufly! > >> but still lost. > >> > >> Can someone kindly and please shade a light on howto > >> make voip behind NAT works in my FreeBSD ? im in trouble because of > >> this. > > > > Hi Marwan, > > STUN will only work if you have the correct NAT implementation on > > your gateway. If you are using pf, you get what the STUN RFC calls > > a symmetric NAT. STUN will not help you in such an implementation. > > I'm not sure how the other NAT solutions on FreeBSD are implemented. > > > > If you need a solution for a symmetric NAT, you need something that > > understands the signaling protocol and can add fw/nat rules on demand > > on your gateway, or a media proxy (like TURN). > > > > Kurt > > It is entirely possible to use voip behnd symmetric nat, but it also > entirely depends on the setup, some more details will help. > > Ta, > Joe Hi, I am not sure of your setup either, but I have Vongae working behind a FreeBSD Firewall/Router using PF with NAT. Vonage Traffic viewed via PFTOP. udpOut 172.16.1.1:1 69.59.242.83:1 MULTIPLE:MULTIPLE 2688m48 18146 9967K udpOut 172.16.1.1:10112 69.59.243.178:12044 MULTIPLE:MULTIPLE 6133 3382 674816 udpOut 172.16.1.1:10113 69.59.243.178:12045SINGLE:NO_TRAFFIC 56 2 14 2348 v/r Derrick > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
Kurt Dethier wrote: > Marwan Sultan wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> Well, maybe the subject says all, >> Im running 6.1R acting as NAT, gateway ofcourse, hotspot. >> I have many clients trying to use Vonage, motorola, VoIP devices and >> and few more products. >> >> The problem is as its described in some websites.. >> They can call, receive a call, hear the dailtone but no one can hear >> the other party. >> >> After researching i found out there is a problem iusing FreeBSD NAT >> with voip protocols. >> >> i have been advised to use STUN servers, (Simple Traversal of UDP >> through NATs.) >> I found out there is net/stund port and its installed successufly! >> but still lost. >> >> Can someone kindly and please shade a light on howto >> make voip behind NAT works in my FreeBSD ? im in trouble because of >> this. > > Hi Marwan, > STUN will only work if you have the correct NAT implementation on > your gateway. If you are using pf, you get what the STUN RFC calls > a symmetric NAT. STUN will not help you in such an implementation. > I'm not sure how the other NAT solutions on FreeBSD are implemented. > > If you need a solution for a symmetric NAT, you need something that > understands the signaling protocol and can add fw/nat rules on demand > on your gateway, or a media proxy (like TURN). > > Kurt It is entirely possible to use voip behnd symmetric nat, but it also entirely depends on the setup, some more details will help. Ta, Joe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
Marwan Sultan wrote: Hello All, Well, maybe the subject says all, Im running 6.1R acting as NAT, gateway ofcourse, hotspot. I have many clients trying to use Vonage, motorola, VoIP devices and and few more products. The problem is as its described in some websites.. They can call, receive a call, hear the dailtone but no one can hear the other party. After researching i found out there is a problem iusing FreeBSD NAT with voip protocols. i have been advised to use STUN servers, (Simple Traversal of UDP through NATs.) I found out there is net/stund port and its installed successufly! but still lost. Can someone kindly and please shade a light on howto make voip behind NAT works in my FreeBSD ? im in trouble because of this. Hi Marwan, STUN will only work if you have the correct NAT implementation on your gateway. If you are using pf, you get what the STUN RFC calls a symmetric NAT. STUN will not help you in such an implementation. I'm not sure how the other NAT solutions on FreeBSD are implemented. If you need a solution for a symmetric NAT, you need something that understands the signaling protocol and can add fw/nat rules on demand on your gateway, or a media proxy (like TURN). Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
Marwan Sultan wrote: > Hello All, > > Well, maybe the subject says all, > Im running 6.1R acting as NAT, gateway ofcourse, hotspot. > I have many clients trying to use Vonage, motorola, VoIP devices and > and few more products. > > The problem is as its described in some websites.. > They can call, receive a call, hear the dailtone but no one can hear > the other party. > > After researching i found out there is a problem iusing FreeBSD NAT > with voip protocols. > > i have been advised to use STUN servers, (Simple Traversal of UDP > through NATs.) > I found out there is net/stund port and its installed successufly! > but still lost. > > Can someone kindly and please shade a light on howto > make voip behind NAT works in my FreeBSD ? im in trouble because of this. > > Thank you. > Marwan Sultan, > This isn't FreeBSD NAT specific, its a problem with NAT in general, if you've installed the stund port, all you need todo is run: stund -h 1.2.3.4 -a 1.2.3.4, replacing 1.2.3.4 with the machines ip obviously, and then tell the voip phones to use that stun server. HTH, Joe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
VoIP behind NAT and FreeBSD
Hello All, Well, maybe the subject says all, Im running 6.1R acting as NAT, gateway ofcourse, hotspot. I have many clients trying to use Vonage, motorola, VoIP devices and and few more products. The problem is as its described in some websites.. They can call, receive a call, hear the dailtone but no one can hear the other party. After researching i found out there is a problem iusing FreeBSD NAT with voip protocols. i have been advised to use STUN servers, (Simple Traversal of UDP through NATs.) I found out there is net/stund port and its installed successufly! but still lost. Can someone kindly and please shade a light on howto make voip behind NAT works in my FreeBSD ? im in trouble because of this. Thank you. Marwan Sultan, _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
