Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-12 Thread James Collins
Hello,
One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I would 
like to fool around with lynx within in freedos.

I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted to 
install.

I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy drive, 
right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I am going 
to fix it.

I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive? I want to set up mTCP 
which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how to 
get it into freedos? I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't 
recognizing my floppy drive?

I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos 
from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set up 
some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got 
virtualbox.



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On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 1/12/11, Eric Auer  wrote:
>> 
>> As Mac understands FAT,
>> it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg
>> USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then "connect"
>> that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing
>> which needs restarting the DOS)...
> 
> Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is
> experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE
> version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.)
> 
>> Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives
>> recognized by having them connected before DOS boots...
>> In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is
>> doing the work.
> 
> Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does
> also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime.
> 
>> In virtualbox, support might differ and
>> if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will
>> have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your
>> actual USB drive, which might complicate things.
> 
> I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB
> support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed
> some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims
> to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower.
> 
>> There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of
>> various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares
>> via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember.
> 
> Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant "NET SHARE" or
> whatever the syntax is.
> 
>> In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only
>> available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such
>> as MacOS in that context.
> 
> *BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and
> weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and
> VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu)
> untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?)
> boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays.
> 
>> There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which
>> autodetect many network chipsets.
> 
> Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me).
> Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR
> crowd).
> 
> P.S. The obvious question is, "What application(s) are you trying to
> run on FreeDOS?" It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete
> suggestions.
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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On 1/12/11, Eric Auer  wrote:
>
> As Mac understands FAT,
> it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg
> USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then "connect"
> that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing
> which needs restarting the DOS)...

Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is
experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE
version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.)

> Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives
> recognized by having them connected before DOS boots...
> In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is
> doing the work.

Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does
also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime.

> In virtualbox, support might differ and
> if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will
> have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your
> actual USB drive, which might complicate things.

I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB
support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed
some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims
to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower.

> There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of
> various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares
> via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember.

Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant "NET SHARE" or
whatever the syntax is.

> In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only
> available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such
> as MacOS in that context.

*BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and
weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and
VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu)
untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?)
boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays.

> There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which
> autodetect many network chipsets.

Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me).
Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR
crowd).

P.S. The obvious question is, "What application(s) are you trying to
run on FreeDOS?" It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete
suggestions.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Packages in FreeDOS

2011-01-12 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Ivan / bla bla,

>> Hello everyone. Yesterday I've just installed FreeDOS 1.0 on my laptop. It
>> has installed not only the base system but dozens of packages. The clue is,
>> once installed, I don't have any idea of what's installed in the system
>> (compressors, compilers, utilities...).
>>
>> And now my question: Is there any place or any list where I can see all the
>> packages a FreeDOS system installs? And, if possible, with a brief
>> description.

Yes. Your DOS should have a subdirectory such as C:\fdos\appinfo
which contains one LSM file for each installed package. Depending
on the installer, you also have C:\fdos\packages\ with lists of
the files inside each package. The LSM are text files in regular
layout, for example for MORESYS:

> Begin3
> Title:  MORESYS
> Version:22nov2003
> Entered-date: 2004-02-22
> Description:Lets you view output pagewise without tempfile or waiting
>   by using "... >MORE$" after loading the driver
> Keywords: MORE, device, pager, scrolling, wait for key
> Author: Eric Auer eric #at# coli.uni-sb.de
> Maintained-by:  Eric Auer eric #at# coli.uni-sb.de
> Primary-site:   http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/
> Alternate-site: 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/
> Original-size:  http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/
> Platforms:  DOS (nasm)
> Copying-policy: GPL

This is also an example that FreeDOS 1.0 is pretty outdated.
Other distros such as the Rugxulo Ruffidea (1 to 4 floppies,
also available as single 2.88 MB floppy image for CD-R boot)
are somewhat newer. You can also download single packages in
your non-DOS operating system or use FDUPDATE inside DOS if
networking works on your machine... The www.freedos.org page
has a big list of LSM files which also helps you to see what
changed since FreeDOS 1.0 The link is called "software list":

http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=moresys

As you see in the updated LSM, the VERSION is still the same
but the homepage and email changed ;-) So you do not need to
update the MORESYS package in this example :-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-12 Thread Eric Auer

Hi James, Uli, Rugxulo, happy new year everybody :-)

do I understand correctly that you want to copy from
MacOS to FreeDOS but both run on the same hardware,
DOS running in VirtualBox? As Mac understands FAT,
it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg
USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then "connect"
that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing
which needs restarting the DOS)...

> I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I
> want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an
> external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't
> recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a
> virtualbox issue rather than freedos.

Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives
recognized by having them connected before DOS boots...
In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is
doing the work. In virtualbox, support might differ and
if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will
have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your
actual USB drive, which might complicate things.

There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of
various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares
via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Again,
such stuff is harder in a virtual PC than in a real
PC. In particular real PCI network cards are easy.
Old ISA cards and external USB cards are harder and
wireless is even very hard. PCIe should be okay :-)

> Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on  my
> hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard
> drive into freedos?

If you run DOS in a virtual PC, this will depend on
the config and abilities of that virtual PC mostly.
Plus a bit on DOS drivers, if you need any at all.

In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only
available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such
as MacOS in that context.

>> Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD
>> 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I
>> heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware
>> seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS
>> (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck).

There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which
autodetect many network chipsets. I assume you could
boot those in a virtual PC as well, even using virtual
floppy drives. Or put them on USB stick or CD-R with
the help of for example SYSLINUX / ISOLINUX / MEMDISK.
Depends a lot on what you want to do whether networking
is really what you want to use :-)

Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Freedom on the Oceans
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 14:45 -0600, Rugxulo wrote:
> Sorry, I missed the obvious problem that you're using a Mac.
> Traditionally Macs have been ten thousand percent incompatible with
> normal PCs (Wintel), but even now running x86, there's almost no
> chance. I say "almost" because maybe?? someone somewhere figured out a
> way. And BootCamp does run Windows, so there's a glimmer of hope, but
> not much.

A very clever developer could write a "shim" to fit between the (U)EFI
firmware and FreeDOS. It certainly is quite possible to do that.

UEFI allows the loading of images, so you can just boot the shim off the
FreeDOS partition, have it set up an emulated BIOS in very high memory,
then boot FreeDOS itself.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
> hi!
> Thanks for this as it answers the usb question I posed a while back.
> Karen
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Rugxulo wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 1/12/11, James Collins  wrote:
>>>
>>> The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email.
>>>
>>> I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into
>>> freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But
>>> freedos isn't recognizing it.
>>
>> FreeDOS doesn't directly support USB, even at the best of times. You
>> need a separate driver, e.g. http://www.bretjohnson.us ... but I'm not
>> sure that'll work for your Mac.

Well, I got USB working with several USB chip sets except VIA.

It was news to me too that James intended to run FD in a VM on an
Apple. I think as Rugxulo the project is... challenging :-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Karen Lewellen
hi!
Thanks for this as it answers the usb question I posed a while back.
Karen

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Rugxulo wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 1/12/11, James Collins  wrote:
>>
>> The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email.
>>
>> I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into
>> freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But
>> freedos isn't recognizing it.
>
> FreeDOS doesn't directly support USB, even at the best of times. You
> need a separate driver, e.g. http://www.bretjohnson.us ... but I'm not
> sure that'll work for your Mac.
>
> Aren't Macs (even x86 ones) lacking a BIOS? EFI or whatnot, but it can
> fake it for Windows (BootCamp)?
>
>> I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox
>> issue rather than freedos.
>
> The only way to share files in VirtualBox from host to DOS is (I
> think) MS SHARE networking. Even if I knew what license that was (I
> don't) or where to get it, I wouldn't know how to use it anyways, and
> it sounds ungodly difficult (for me). So I never use that (sorry!).
>
>> I am going to try and figure out how I can get
>> freedos to recognize my floppy drive.
>
> It recognizes normal PC floppy drives, even USB ones, but your Mac is
> probably too different (without some kind of BIOS, hopefully BootCamp
> provides one, I dunno).
>
>> Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I
>> copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos?
>
> FreeDOS only reads and understands FAT12/16/32, which your Mac almost
> certainly doesn't use by default (HFS?). Maybe you could install
> mtools.
>
>> The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand?
>
> Sorry, I missed the obvious problem that you're using a Mac.
> Traditionally Macs have been ten thousand percent incompatible with
> normal PCs (Wintel), but even now running x86, there's almost no
> chance. I say "almost" because maybe?? someone somewhere figured out a
> way. And BootCamp does run Windows, so there's a glimmer of hope, but
> not much.
>
> Sorry if this isn't much help. I just want you to be aware that you
> may be barking up the wrong tree.   :-/  You might be stuck to
> emulation (VirtualBox, QEMU, DOSBox) only, which is sad (and slow)
> when the underlying processor is the same. Linux has some Mac support
> (surprisingly), perhaps you can run that + DOSEMU. I dunno, this is
> all horrible advice, sorry, just grasping at straws.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On 1/12/11, James Collins  wrote:
>
> The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email.
>
> I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into
> freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But
> freedos isn't recognizing it.

FreeDOS doesn't directly support USB, even at the best of times. You
need a separate driver, e.g. http://www.bretjohnson.us ... but I'm not
sure that'll work for your Mac.

Aren't Macs (even x86 ones) lacking a BIOS? EFI or whatnot, but it can
fake it for Windows (BootCamp)?

> I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox
> issue rather than freedos.

The only way to share files in VirtualBox from host to DOS is (I
think) MS SHARE networking. Even if I knew what license that was (I
don't) or where to get it, I wouldn't know how to use it anyways, and
it sounds ungodly difficult (for me). So I never use that (sorry!).

> I am going to try and figure out how I can get
> freedos to recognize my floppy drive.

It recognizes normal PC floppy drives, even USB ones, but your Mac is
probably too different (without some kind of BIOS, hopefully BootCamp
provides one, I dunno).

> Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I
> copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos?

FreeDOS only reads and understands FAT12/16/32, which your Mac almost
certainly doesn't use by default (HFS?). Maybe you could install
mtools.

> The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand?

Sorry, I missed the obvious problem that you're using a Mac.
Traditionally Macs have been ten thousand percent incompatible with
normal PCs (Wintel), but even now running x86, there's almost no
chance. I say "almost" because maybe?? someone somewhere figured out a
way. And BootCamp does run Windows, so there's a glimmer of hope, but
not much.

Sorry if this isn't much help. I just want you to be aware that you
may be barking up the wrong tree.   :-/  You might be stuck to
emulation (VirtualBox, QEMU, DOSBox) only, which is sad (and slow)
when the underlying processor is the same. Linux has some Mac support
(surprisingly), perhaps you can run that + DOSEMU. I dunno, this is
all horrible advice, sorry, just grasping at straws.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 412, Issue 1, FDISK problem

2011-01-12 Thread Garrison Ricketson
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:34:06 -0200
From: Alain Mouette 
Subject: [Freedos-user] FDISSK bug?
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <4d2b6d3e.7040...@pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi all,

A user reported to me that for some HardDisks FreeDOS's FDISK is not 
able to set the ACTIVE bit for the boot partition...

Has anyone encountered this problem? is there a fix?

I am using fdisk131.zip (fdisk.exe is 39153 bytes)

Thanks for any info,
Alain
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When I first was installing FreeDos, and also setting up my partitions,
I never could get good results with fdisk, anything formatted with, or 
partitios set up witf
fdisk, would not boot, but I never understood whay, I thought it was cause I 
did not know much about what I was doing, but I had been folowing instructions 
very careful, I finally ended up useing the SPFDISK, and Partition Magic, to do 
what I wanted to do,..Although I never pinpointed the problem wiith fdisk, what 
yu are saying makes me think, that may have been the problem. I would be 
willing to run some tests, but unfortunately, since this computer is working 
fine like I have it, and I don't have another that I could use,..I've got to 
much "work" in this one, to risk experimenting anymore. However I am very 
interested in hearing what more devlopes on this. If you want I can give more 
detailed info, as to version,etc,..later...at the moment this is my lunch break 
and I do not have the details at hand,...
 I had liked what fdisk appeared to be able to do, it seemed simple enough to 
use, etc.
But as I said since I never could get anything to boot after useng it I gave 
up, it never occurred to me it may be a "bug".
I will look for the next user lists letter or feel free to e-mail me, if there 
is anything I can do to help.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Karen Lewellen
This may be a more basic question, but what format is the file in?
Is it something that can be read across platforms, say audio?
The file structures can differ from operating systems.
the old / new reference is I think? to copy the old file name into the new 
one, although I may not be correct here.
Karen

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, James Collins wrote:

> The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email.
>
> I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into 
> freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But 
> freedos isn't recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox 
> issue rather than freedos. I am going to try and figure out how I can get 
> freedos to recognize my floppy drive.
>
> Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I 
> copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos?
>
> The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 1/12/11, James Collins  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in
>>> freedos to copy a folder into freedos?
>>>
>>> What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\
>>> drive and then run dhcp?
>>>
>>> But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive?
>>
>>> From where? "ren c:\old c:\new" should work. Or across different
>> drives you probably have to do "move d:\old c:\new". Or just "xcopy /s
>> d:\old c:\new" (doesn't delete d:\old\*.*). Beware the "move doesn't
>> delete +r" bug. (A decent file manager like Doszip or NDN helps a lot
>> here.)
>>
>> Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD
>> 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I
>> heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware
>> seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS
>> (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck).
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread James Collins
The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email.

I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into 
freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But 
freedos isn't recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox 
issue rather than freedos. I am going to try and figure out how I can get 
freedos to recognize my floppy drive.

Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I 
copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos?

The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand?

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On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 1/12/11, James Collins  wrote:
>> 
>> I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in
>> freedos to copy a folder into freedos?
>> 
>> What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\
>> drive and then run dhcp?
>> 
>> But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive?
> 
>> From where? "ren c:\old c:\new" should work. Or across different
> drives you probably have to do "move d:\old c:\new". Or just "xcopy /s
> d:\old c:\new" (doesn't delete d:\old\*.*). Beware the "move doesn't
> delete +r" bug. (A decent file manager like Doszip or NDN helps a lot
> here.)
> 
> Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD
> 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I
> heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware
> seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS
> (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck).
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread ellsnjel
When I installed lynx, I had to change some of the directories in the 
batch files. Check if the wattcp.cfg directory is correct in 
%dosdir%\lynx\lynxbat.bat. You should run %dosdir%\bin\lynx.bat because 
the batch file sets some environment variables lynx needs to run. 
However, you could set them from the command line, but it is easier to 
use the batch file. Hope this helps.

---Original Message-
From: James Collins 
To: freedos-user 
Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 10:02 am
Subject: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

Hello,
When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow 
leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration.

I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the 
configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck.

Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive 
etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx 
executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, 
even though the lynx file is an executable?

So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by 
reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why 
did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like 
is dos installed properly?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On 1/12/11, James Collins  wrote:
>
> I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in
> freedos to copy a folder into freedos?
>
> What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\
> drive and then run dhcp?
>
> But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive?

>From where? "ren c:\old c:\new" should work. Or across different
drives you probably have to do "move d:\old c:\new". Or just "xcopy /s
d:\old c:\new" (doesn't delete d:\old\*.*). Beware the "move doesn't
delete +r" bug. (A decent file manager like Doszip or NDN helps a lot
here.)

Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD
1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I
heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware
seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS
(and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread James Collins
Hello,
I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in 
freedos to copy a folder into freedos?

What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\ 
drive and then run dhcp?

But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Mike Eriksen  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, James Collins
>  wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply and link,
>> 
>> I downloaded mTCP,
>> So I guess I have to install this, some how and then I can reinstall freedos 
>> and dhcp should configure?
> 
> Install it on top of FreeDOS - first FD then mTCP. I only used it once
> last summer so I'm not experienced, but at that time it was trivial.
> Just read the docs.
> 
> Mike
> 
>> I have to read the files that came with mTCP,
>> 
>> Thanks again, any help with setting this up would be great.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Mike Eriksen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins
>>>  wrote:
 Hello,
 When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow 
 leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration.
 
 I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the 
 configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck.
 
 Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., 
 I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But 
 it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the 
 lynx file is an executable?
 
 So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by 
 reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did 
 my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos 
 installed properly?
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come
>>> natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility:
>>> 
>>> http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/
>>> 
>>> Mike
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread mbbrutman

James,

I'm not well versed on lynx - it is built on top of the WATTCP  
library.  Try a simpler application like PING or FTP which also uses  
the WATTCP library before you move onto lynx - at least you will know  
you have the basic configuration settings correct.

Somebody else already pointed out mTCP - http://www.brutman.com/mTCP .  
  That has the basic apps in it, but it does not have a web browser.   
The support is very good though. :-)


Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, James Collins
 wrote:
> Thanks for the reply and link,
>
> I downloaded mTCP,
> So I guess I have to install this, some how and then I can reinstall freedos 
> and dhcp should configure?

Install it on top of FreeDOS - first FD then mTCP. I only used it once
last summer so I'm not experienced, but at that time it was trivial.
Just read the docs.

Mike

> I have to read the files that came with mTCP,
>
> Thanks again, any help with setting this up would be great.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Mike Eriksen  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins
>>  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow 
>>> leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration.
>>>
>>> I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the 
>>> configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck.
>>>
>>> Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., 
>>> I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But 
>>> it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx 
>>> file is an executable?
>>>
>>> So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by 
>>> reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my 
>>> computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos 
>>> installed properly?
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come
>> natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility:
>>
>> http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/
>>
>> Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread James Collins
Thanks for the reply and link,

I downloaded mTCP, 
So I guess I have to install this, some how and then I can reinstall freedos 
and dhcp should configure?

I have to read the files that came with mTCP, 

Thanks again, any help with setting this up would be great.

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On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Mike Eriksen  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow 
>> leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration.
>> 
>> I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the 
>> configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck.
>> 
>> Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I 
>> went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it 
>> wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx 
>> file is an executable?
>> 
>> So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by 
>> reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my 
>> computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos 
>> installed properly?
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come
> natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility:
> 
> http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/
> 
> Mike
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins
 wrote:
> Hello,
> When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, 
> the install got hung up on dhcp configuration.
>
> I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the 
> configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck.
>
> Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I 
> went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it 
> wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file 
> is an executable?
>
> So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by 
> reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my 
> computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos 
> installed properly?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come
natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility:

http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/

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[Freedos-user] Dhcp

2011-01-12 Thread James Collins
Hello,
When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, 
the install got hung up on dhcp configuration.

I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the 
configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck.

Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I 
went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it 
wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file 
is an executable?

So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling 
or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no 
such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly?

Any help would be appreciated.

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