Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Stroller wrote: > I haven't done much digging yet, but thought a quick show of hands > here might save some time. It looks like the SCSI hot-swap / RAID > controller uses an AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver which is (?) part of the > main kernel - anyone know if that does status updates (dead-hard > drives &c) to the syslog? Does it depend on any userland utilities > that are only available as RPM or whatever? I maintain a few Poweredges, I think mostly 2950. Just yesterday we swapped a drive on the Fusion MPT SAS controller. We were prompted to take the drive out of service by an email from 'smartd'. I couldn't find any evidence of bad sectors or I/O timeouts in /var/log/messages, so this must be the SMART prefailure it purported to be in the email. In /etc/smartd.conf I use: DEVICESCAN -H -l error -l selftest -t -I 194 -W 5,45,48 -R 5 -R 194 -R 231 -m [EMAIL PROTECTED] After failing and removing the drive from the array using 'mdadm', we tried hotswapping the drive, and whilst nothing untoward happened when we pulled the drive there were no kernel messages either. I was expecting something similar to when I've hotplugged SATA drives on my desktop machine. We had to reboot the server to get it to see the replacement drive. Perhaps there's some /proc/ or /sys/ setting to trigger a rescan of the SCSI bus, but I couldn't find it. Other than those oddities the drive swap went well. Cheers, Steve. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?
Stroller wrote: Just a quick question to see if any of the list members are using Gentoo - or any other Linux distro for that matter - on Dell PowerEdge 2600 or 2800 servers? A site I manage has had from new a 2800 running Windows, which we're quite happy with (the 2800, that is, not Windows ;). We really need new hardware for our Linux-based mailserver & similar systems seem to be quite affordable on the secondhand market, and it would make quite a bit of sense for us to use one of these. I haven't done much digging yet, but thought a quick show of hands here might save some time. It looks like the SCSI hot-swap / RAID controller uses an AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver which is (?) part of the main kernel - anyone know if that does status updates (dead-hard drives &c) to the syslog? Does it depend on any userland utilities that are only available as RPM or whatever? I know RedHat &/or Suse are supported on this machine, but I've been using Gentoo so long now I find it hard to use them thar binary distros. It'd also be nice if power-supply failures were logged in the same way - anyone know? I've had some experience in the past with a Compaq Proliant 6500 and certain utilities for that would only report problems via SNMP, which was a bit of a pain. I used Redhat, Fedora, and Gentoo on 2550, 1650, 2650, 1750, 1850, and 2850 PowerEdge servers. Never had an issue and never had driver issues other than early tg3 ether driver problems with Redhat 8. I'd assume the 2800 and 2600s are roughly the same. Other than the CPU/RAM the main different between 2650, 2850, and 2950 was the SCSI card. I'd choose the 2850 over the 2650 given a choice for anything with heavy I/O and the 2950 are noticeably faster than the 2850 for our db stuff. The SCSI on 2850's should be megaraid and you want the megaraid-new driver and Linux kernels would have issues if you tried to build both new and old so just pick new. (this might have changed in the past year since I've built a custom kernel for a 2850). I never had driver issues with any distro provided kernel or my own kernels. IIRC you can pull the megarc RPMs from Dell's website and install them. I never got around to making them work with Gentoo, but it shouldn't be terribly hard. I don't know of anything in the normal driver that will tell you any ifo about status or failed drives, but I never looked that hard. I bought most of my 2850's about two years ago. Dual Xeon's, 8GB, 6 x 10k 146GB drives, and remote management card for about $4000. Discount as appropriate. kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Bo Ørsted Andresen написа: > On Wednesday 19 December 2007 21:37:38 Rumen Yotov wrote: > >> Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the >> use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag. >> > > Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag exists. Kind of > curious how that relates to claw-mail anyway. Python-updater on the other > hand supports all three package managers in the tree and just defaults to > using portage. :P > > And yes, I'm a Paludis user (for over a year now). > Hi, Regarding claws-mail there's a script to rebuild it's plugins - see elogs. Since i first tried paludis-0.2.1, may still have some old use info (laziness) about paludis USE-flag (IIRC revdep-rebuild & portage-utils, etc.had it). Haven't tried/needed python-updater so omitted it. There's also a paludis-extras overlay, which is rather separated from official paludis but have some nice things (and problems sometimes ;-). Regards, Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
Hi, I cannot really go into details, but maybe I'm competent enough to make some notes on this: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:47:55 -0500 Jeff Cranmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I manually edited the file /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187_dev.c > [...] > I added the line > {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8197)}, > in the /* Realtek */ area of the structure, then ran > make clean, then > make && make modules_install etc. > > After rebooting into the modified kernel, I now have iwmaster0 and iwlan0 > lines showing up when I type iwconfig. Although that's a good sign, it does not guarantee that the driver fully supports your device. However, the kernel log should now have changed significantly and the driver might now tell you there if it's fully operable. "ifconfig" showing the correct MAC is also a good sign. As a side note: My suggestion would be to play with the different "drivers" of wpa_supplicant. DHCP won't work if there's no correct WPA setup anyway. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Grant wrote: Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? - Grant i'm completely delete portage and use paludis. work's fine ;) -- С уважением, Vasiliy G Tolstov http://www.selfip.ru begin:vcard fn:Vasiliy G Tolstov n:Tolstov;Vasiliy org:PeterHost.Ru;Virtual Hosting adr:;;;Saint-Petersbutg;;;Russia email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:System Administrator tel;work:+78123477743 tel;cell:+79119940054 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.selfip.ru version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Richard Marzan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > May i have that script? I assume it's GPLed :-) Honestly, calling it a script is an embellishment. Perhaps phrasing it as 'something that keeps the faster moving parts of configuration in sync' would have been better. echo '*/* x86' > /etc/paludis/keywords.conf grep -h -v \# /etc/portage/package.keywords/* | grep \/ | awk -F" " '{print $1 " x86 ~x86"}' | sort -u >> /etc/paludis/keywords.conf cat /etc/paludis/package_mask.conf | grep -v '::' | grep -v '#' | sort -u > /etc/portage/package.mask/paludis cat /etc/paludis/package_unmask.conf | grep -v '::' | grep -v '#' | sort -u > /etc/portage/package.unmask/paludis cat /etc/paludis/use.conf | grep -v '::' | grep -v '\*\/\*' | grep -v '#' | sort -u > /etc/portage/package.use/paludis That's all there is to it, and it makes a lot of assumptions: that you've already configured both paludis and portage, that you consider /etc/paludis authoritative on everything but package.keywords, that you're running a mixed x86 and ~x86 system, and probably others I can't spot. You also have to sync the global use flags by hand in make.conf ans use.conf, as well as manage adding/removing overlays by hand, and it won't touch CFLAGS settings either, etc. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you package unmask/mask a package from a certain repository only with cat/pkg::repo, portage won't know about it and probably not do what you want. János Zsitvai -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] performance enhancement using x86_64-pc-linux-gnu?
On Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2007, Richard Marzan wrote: > Hello, > > > Today, I thought about changing the CHOST, even if it means performing > a fresh install, to the one in the subject line for performance > improvement. Am I wrong to assume that changing the CHOST to > x86_64-pc-linux-gnu and setting CFLAGS to athlon64 will offer faster > operation of apps? depends on the apps. My overall experience was positive but that my vary. > would it be sufficient to use i686-pc-linux-gnu as > the CHOST and use Athlon64 as the -march? no. i686 is 32bit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?
Just a quick question to see if any of the list members are using Gentoo - or any other Linux distro for that matter - on Dell PowerEdge 2600 or 2800 servers? A site I manage has had from new a 2800 running Windows, which we're quite happy with (the 2800, that is, not Windows ;). We really need new hardware for our Linux-based mailserver & similar systems seem to be quite affordable on the secondhand market, and it would make quite a bit of sense for us to use one of these. I haven't done much digging yet, but thought a quick show of hands here might save some time. It looks like the SCSI hot-swap / RAID controller uses an AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver which is (?) part of the main kernel - anyone know if that does status updates (dead-hard drives &c) to the syslog? Does it depend on any userland utilities that are only available as RPM or whatever? I know RedHat &/or Suse are supported on this machine, but I've been using Gentoo so long now I find it hard to use them thar binary distros. It'd also be nice if power-supply failures were logged in the same way - anyone know? I've had some experience in the past with a Compaq Proliant 6500 and certain utilities for that would only report problems via SNMP, which was a bit of a pain. Cheers, Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote: > "b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. > > I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can > > someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition. > > It works just fine. :) Later versions have the ability to use portage > configuration files directly, but that makes you lose some advantages, > like per-repository masking or unmasking of packages. I use a small > script to keep portage and paludis config files in sync, so I can use > whichever I want. > > The thing I like about it most is how it keeps overlays separate, so > they don't override eclasses globally, or that you can even specify > 'underlays' that are only used if neither the official portage nor any > other overlays carry a specific package. > > And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me > over all over again. :) > > János Zsitvai May i have that script? I assume it's GPLed :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hello there!
On 20:55 Wed 19 Dec , Sven Albrecht wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:32 -0600, Jesús Abidan Ramos Salas wrote: > > i am new at this list... i hope i can help > > Me too, at first I'm basically reading and learning ^^ > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > Same here. I've been subscribed for awhile (maybe afew months), and have only just started to help. Welcome. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X
On 22:37 Wed 19 Dec , Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:45:49 -0500 (EST), David Finkel wrote: > > > You should just be able to pass the nox kernel > > command line option at boot, the xdm init script, > > from baselayout, contains a line which checks the > > kernel command line for the xdm parameter. > > This works, but because nox stays in /proc/cmdline, any attempt to run > xdm later will fail. The only way to get back into X is to reboot. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > Does fuzzy logic tickle? How about running startx, or modifying the script to see if boot time was within X of the current time (seeing if this IS boot, or some other time), or maybe (I don't run xdm, or any display manager for that matter) you could just pass an arg to xdm to make it start. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
Dale wrote: > I'll give that > -gcj a try tho. Can I just disable it on gcc or does it have to be > global? Also, what is it anyway? I would disable it globally for now. gcj is an open source implementation of Java, but last I read about it (maybe like 3/4 a year ago) it wasn't very complete yet. I would just use Sun for now... -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerge multiple-versions-in-same-slot weirdness with X11 libs...
I just did an "emerge --sync" followed by an ask fetchonly, which I do to avoid unpleasant surprises. Emerge is sending the following message to stderr. I don't like the concept of masking out stuff for an ordinary emerge. Any idea what gives? ### begin screen capture ### [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask --update --world --deep --fetchonly>x !!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been !!! pulled into the dependency graph: ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.2', 'nomerge') pulled in by ('installed', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r2', 'nomerge') ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4', 'merge') pulled in by ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11', 'nomerge') ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12', 'nomerge') ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrandr-1.2.1', 'nomerge') ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/pango-1.18.3', 'nomerge') ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXcursor-1.1.9', 'merge') ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/cairo-1.4.12', 'nomerge') ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/gtk+-2.12.1-r2', 'nomerge') ('installed', '/', 'x11-apps/xdpyinfo-1.0.2', 'nomerge') ('installed', '/', 'x11-misc/googleearth-4.2.198.2451', 'nomerge') It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be installed simultaneously. For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. end screen capture -- Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm not repeating myself I'm an X Window user... I'm an ex-Windows-user -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
Final piece of info for the day. When I ran dhcpcd wlan0, I get Error, wlan0: timed out Error, wlan0: lease information file '/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan0.info' does not exist Any assistance gratefully received Jeff On Wednesday 19 December 2007 09:47:55 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote: > I made significant progress today. > > I manually edited the file > /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187_dev.c > > There is a static structure near the top of the code, > > static struct usb_device_id rtl8187_table[] __devinitdata = { > /* Realtek */ > {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8187)}, > /* netgear */ > {USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6100)}, > {USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6a00)}, > {} > }; > > I added the line > {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8197)}, > in the /* Realtek */ area of the structure, then ran > make clean, then > make && make modules_install etc. > > After rebooting into the modified kernel, I now have iwmaster0 and iwlan0 > lines showing up when I type iwconfig. > > The applicable lines of iwconfig are > > wmaster0 no wireless extensions > > wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID="mynetworkESSID" > Mode:ManagedFrequency=2.417GHz Access Point: > Not associated > Retry min limit 7 RTS thr:off Fragment > thr=2346B > Encryption key: > Link Quality:0 Signal Level:0 Noise > Level:0 > Rx Invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx > invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed > beacon:0 > > I'm not all the way there yet, but this is significant progress. > > wpa_supplicant gui still is blank, with the message 'could not get status > from WPA_supplicant', but at least now I have an interface showing up > > It appears that it cannot find an access point. The access point is > active, as I can connect my work laptop to it, but so far, the laptop can't > see it. > > Any further advice gratefully received. > > Jeff > > On Wednesday 19 December 2007 06:09:50 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote: > > I've tried to run through the instructions at > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187. > > > > The kernel is configured per that guide, and I get the message: > > usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 > > > > When I try to run ifconfig wlan0 up, however, I get: > > wlan0: unknown interface: no such device > > > > I get the same result if I run ifconfig wlan up (net.wlan is the symlink > > that I set up in /etc/init.d) > > > > The wireless section of my /etc/conf.d/net file reads > > mode_wlan="managed" > > wpa_supplicant_wlan="-Dwext -c > > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_RTL8187.conf" config_wlan=( "dhcp" ) > > dhcp_wlan="-R -G" > > > > wpa_supplicant has been emerged. > > > > Jeff > > > > On Sunday 16 December 2007 12:14:42 pm Mick wrote: > > > On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: > > > > All I get for iwconfig is > > > > lo no wireless extensions > > > > eth0no wireless extensions. > > > > > > This means that the driver has not been loaded yet. In generic terms > > > you'll need to install the necessary driver for your WiFi device > > > (either the new one in the kernel or emerge net-wireless/rtl8187, or > > > ndiswrapper and the MS Windows driver). If you build the driver as a > > > module then you need to modprobe -v rtl8187, while you keep an eye on > > > the logs to see how things go (tail -f /var/log/messages). You have > > > seen this, right? > > > > > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187 > > > > > > > I think I need some more info in /etc/conf.d/net, and need somehow to > > > > create the necessary /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever driver. > > > > > > > > The only 'net.anything' drivers present at the moment are net.lo and > > > > net.eth0 > > > > > > You will of course have to manually create a symlink between net.wlan0 > > > -> net.lo (or whatever your new WiFi device is recognised as by the > > > kernel) so that you can bring it up by running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 > > > start. But this is only necessary for autoloading the driver through > > > the runlevel scripts. To try it out follow the instructions in the Wiki > > > page above. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] performance enhancement using x86_64-pc-linux-gnu?
Hello, Today, I thought about changing the CHOST, even if it means performing a fresh install, to the one in the subject line for performance improvement. Am I wrong to assume that changing the CHOST to x86_64-pc-linux-gnu and setting CFLAGS to athlon64 will offer faster operation of apps? would it be sufficient to use i686-pc-linux-gnu as the CHOST and use Athlon64 as the -march? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:43:04 Dale wrote: > >> I have had mine showing it needed to recompile gcc for a very long time >> now. There is also a bug for it too. It has been there for a really >> long time. There are hacks to work around the bug but some don't like >> the hack and neither did I. I just omit gcc and do whatever else it says. >> >> It's not a perfect tool but it works, mostly anyway. ;-) >> > > It's not a hack. But anyway.. Do you actually need gcj? Otherwise just > disable > USE=gcj and be done with it... > > The last I saw was making some sort of links manually. I'll give that -gcj a try tho. Can I just disable it on gcc or does it have to be global? Also, what is it anyway? I did a euse -i gcj but it may as well be greek. Thanks Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
I made significant progress today. I manually edited the file /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187_dev.c There is a static structure near the top of the code, static struct usb_device_id rtl8187_table[] __devinitdata = { /* Realtek */ {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8187)}, /* netgear */ {USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6100)}, {USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6a00)}, {} }; I added the line {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8197)}, in the /* Realtek */ area of the structure, then ran make clean, then make && make modules_install etc. After rebooting into the modified kernel, I now have iwmaster0 and iwlan0 lines showing up when I type iwconfig. The applicable lines of iwconfig are wmaster0no wireless extensions wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID="mynetworkESSID" Mode:ManagedFrequency=2.417GHz Access Point: Not associated Retry min limit 7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346B Encryption key: Link Quality:0 Signal Level:0 Noise Level:0 Rx Invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 I'm not all the way there yet, but this is significant progress. wpa_supplicant gui still is blank, with the message 'could not get status from WPA_supplicant', but at least now I have an interface showing up It appears that it cannot find an access point. The access point is active, as I can connect my work laptop to it, but so far, the laptop can't see it. Any further advice gratefully received. Jeff On Wednesday 19 December 2007 06:09:50 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote: > I've tried to run through the instructions at > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187. > > The kernel is configured per that guide, and I get the message: > usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 > > When I try to run ifconfig wlan0 up, however, I get: > wlan0: unknown interface: no such device > > I get the same result if I run ifconfig wlan up (net.wlan is the symlink > that I set up in /etc/init.d) > > The wireless section of my /etc/conf.d/net file reads > mode_wlan="managed" > wpa_supplicant_wlan="-Dwext -c > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_RTL8187.conf" config_wlan=( "dhcp" ) > dhcp_wlan="-R -G" > > wpa_supplicant has been emerged. > > Jeff > > On Sunday 16 December 2007 12:14:42 pm Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: > > > All I get for iwconfig is > > > lono wireless extensions > > > eth0 no wireless extensions. > > > > This means that the driver has not been loaded yet. In generic terms > > you'll need to install the necessary driver for your WiFi device (either > > the new one in the kernel or emerge net-wireless/rtl8187, or ndiswrapper > > and the MS Windows driver). If you build the driver as a module then you > > need to modprobe -v rtl8187, while you keep an eye on the logs to see how > > things go (tail -f /var/log/messages). You have seen this, right? > > > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187 > > > > > I think I need some more info in /etc/conf.d/net, and need somehow to > > > create the necessary /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever driver. > > > > > > The only 'net.anything' drivers present at the moment are net.lo and > > > net.eth0 > > > > You will of course have to manually create a symlink between net.wlan0 -> > > net.lo (or whatever your new WiFi device is recognised as by the kernel) > > so that you can bring it up by running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start. But > > this is only necessary for autoloading the driver through the runlevel > > scripts. To try it out follow the instructions in the Wiki page above. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:46:20 Iain Buchanan wrote: > > And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me > > over all over again. :) > > I've been wondering for a long time why portage doesn't continue with > building other packages when one fails - so long as deps are met why > stop? Because the current resolver in Portage isn't powerfull enough to know if the deps are met. > Acutally, while I'm on the subject of features - here's another one I'd > like to see: parallel merges instead of parallel makes. It's planned (both for Portage and Paludis). For Portage there's even a bug with a patch which isn't considered suitable for inclusion in Portage. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] hello there!
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:32:18 -0600 Jesús Abidan Ramos Salas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i am new at this list... i hope i can help Welcome to the list. Long live Gentoo! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:43:04 Dale wrote: > I have had mine showing it needed to recompile gcc for a very long time > now. There is also a bug for it too. It has been there for a really > long time. There are hacks to work around the bug but some don't like > the hack and neither did I. I just omit gcc and do whatever else it says. > > It's not a perfect tool but it works, mostly anyway. ;-) It's not a hack. But anyway.. Do you actually need gcj? Otherwise just disable USE=gcj and be done with it... -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
On Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007, purple wrote: > after a while a built new desktop with xfce and since than i have issues > with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild because revdep constandly > rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again every time i run it.. > sample output from revdep-rebuild: > http://rafb.net/p/0HuBCG36.nln.html > > seems its filed bug >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177925 but > still isn't resolved obviously, anyone else, with solution maybe? > thanks put this in your make.conf: SEARCH_DIRS_MASK="/opt /home" this way stuff in /opt won't be touched by revdep-rebuild -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote: > And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me > over all over again. :) I've been wondering for a long time why portage doesn't continue with building other packages when one fails - so long as deps are met why stop? Acutally, while I'm on the subject of features - here's another one I'd like to see: parallel merges instead of parallel makes. Since many packages have problems with MAKEOPTS, it doesn't help with configure scripts anyway and other parts of the process, why not spawn 2 or 3 emerges automatically? Each one could do it's own "tree" of packages and dependencies that don't affect the other... would be nice IMHO. cya, -- Iain Buchanan People think love is an emotion. Love is good sense. -- Ken Kesey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
Philip Webb wrote: > 071219 purple wrote: > >> i have issues with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild >> because revdep constandly rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again >> > > Revdep-rebuild seems to be an imperfect tool: > this happens to me & sometimes also with Gcc & I ignore it. > The work-around is to run 'revdep-rebuild --pretend ... ', > then do by hand whatever it says it would do, omitting the silly stuff. > > I have had mine showing it needed to recompile gcc for a very long time now. There is also a bug for it too. It has been there for a really long time. There are hacks to work around the bug but some don't like the hack and neither did I. I just omit gcc and do whatever else it says. It's not a perfect tool but it works, mostly anyway. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 21:37:38 Rumen Yotov wrote: > Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the > use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag. Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag exists. Kind of curious how that relates to claw-mail anyway. Python-updater on the other hand supports all three package managers in the tree and just defaults to using portage. :P And yes, I'm a Paludis user (for over a year now). -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to get rid of the annoying speech bubble in Evolution?
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 07:35 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:47 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:59 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > > My wife and I run evolution 2.12.1 . We love the blinking letter in the > > > notification area of our panel, but we absolutely can't stand the speech > > > bubble that pops out of it [snip] > When I right click the blinking envelope, nothing happens. No popup > menu or anything. When I right-click the speech bubble, it goes away > until the next time I get email in. Where is this "message popups" you > mentioned? OK, the only way I can think of to get what you want is this: 1. disable the evolution built-in notification area applet (edit > plugins > uncheck "mail notification" 2. install mail-notification (with at least the evo use flag. You'll need at least v4.0 maybe even v4.1) 3. configure mail-notification. Start it once, then save your gnome session and it will start next time you log in. Use mailbox type "Evolution" and then you can select explicit folders for which you want to be notified. HTH! -- Iain Buchanan There are people so addicted to exaggeration that they can't tell the truth without lying. -- Josh Billings -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Mark Shields ha scritto: > Portage has proved more than adequate for my needs. Paladis doesn't > seem like anything I need or want. Well, Portage is adequate for my needs too, and I've never tried Paludis but the very "continue-on-failure" and "underlays" things look like, for example, two small but dramatically useful features. It seems interesting. Why don't you find it interesting? I'm just curious. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 05:53:18AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote > > > Another thing you can try: add something you want to be done (like > > switching to a vt or a certain sysrq-key) to your acpid config and let > > acpid run. If the keyboard hangs, just push the power button ... > > > > for example: > > event=.* > > action=chvt 1 > > > > in /etc/acpi/events/default switches to vt1 if you push the power button. > > Pretty usefull, if X is in deep shit mode again. > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you verrry verrry much! > > > This is a wonderful idea, and I have it implemented now. For the > benefit of anyone else who's interested, here are the steps I took > got it from this ml or the gentoo-forums. Was not my idea. But is very helpfull if X has totally eaten the keyboard but interrupts are still delivered. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
Aaaargh, a typo in my instructions On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 05:58:25PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote > rc-update add default acpid (to automatically start acpid at future bootups) Should have read... rc-update add acpid default -- Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm not repeating myself I'm an X Window user... I'm an ex-Windows-user -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
I've tried to run through the instructions at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187. The kernel is configured per that guide, and I get the message: usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 When I try to run ifconfig wlan0 up, however, I get: wlan0: unknown interface: no such device I get the same result if I run ifconfig wlan up (net.wlan is the symlink that I set up in /etc/init.d) The wireless section of my /etc/conf.d/net file reads mode_wlan="managed" wpa_supplicant_wlan="-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_RTL8187.conf" config_wlan=( "dhcp" ) dhcp_wlan="-R -G" wpa_supplicant has been emerged. Jeff On Sunday 16 December 2007 12:14:42 pm Mick wrote: > On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: > > All I get for iwconfig is > > lo no wireless extensions > > eth0no wireless extensions. > > This means that the driver has not been loaded yet. In generic terms > you'll need to install the necessary driver for your WiFi device (either > the new one in the kernel or emerge net-wireless/rtl8187, or ndiswrapper > and the MS Windows driver). If you build the driver as a module then you > need to modprobe -v rtl8187, while you keep an eye on the logs to see how > things go (tail -f /var/log/messages). You have seen this, right? > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187 > > > I think I need some more info in /etc/conf.d/net, and need somehow to > > create the necessary /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever driver. > > > > The only 'net.anything' drivers present at the moment are net.lo and > > net.eth0 > > You will of course have to manually create a symlink between net.wlan0 -> > net.lo (or whatever your new WiFi device is recognised as by the kernel) so > that you can bring it up by running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start. But this > is only necessary for autoloading the driver through the runlevel scripts. > To try it out follow the instructions in the Wiki page above. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 05:53:18AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote > Another thing you can try: add something you want to be done (like switching > to a vt or a certain sysrq-key) to your acpid config and let acpid run. If > the keyboard hangs, just push the power button ... > > for example: > event=.* > action=chvt 1 > > in /etc/acpi/events/default switches to vt1 if you push the power button. > Pretty usefull, if X is in deep shit mode again. Thank you, thank you, thank you verrry verrry much! This is a wonderful idea, and I have it implemented now. For the benefit of anyone else who's interested, here are the steps I took as root cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig Power management options (ACPI, APM) ---> [*] Power Management support ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support [*] ACPI Support <*> Button Compile and re-boot into new kernel emerge acpi change the uncommented lines in /etc/acpi/events/default to read event=.* action=chvt 1 execute the commands... /etc/init.d/acpid start (to start acpid now) rc-update add default acpid (to automatically start acpid at future bootups) Notes: - When testing, I suggets executing "sync" as a precaution, just before pressing the "big" power button. - PCs also have a smaller power button which is hard-wired to shutdown or re-boot. Do not press that button. - After editing /etc/acpi/events/default run the command /etc/init.d/acpid restart to force acpid to read in the new config -- Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm not repeating myself I'm an X Window user... I'm an ex-Windows-user -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:45:49 -0500 (EST), David Finkel wrote: > You should just be able to pass the nox kernel > command line option at boot, the xdm init script, > from baselayout, contains a line which checks the > kernel command line for the xdm parameter. This works, but because nox stays in /proc/cmdline, any attempt to run xdm later will fail. The only way to get back into X is to reboot. -- Neil Bothwick Does fuzzy logic tickle? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
"b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. > I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can > someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition. It works just fine. :) Later versions have the ability to use portage configuration files directly, but that makes you lose some advantages, like per-repository masking or unmasking of packages. I use a small script to keep portage and paludis config files in sync, so I can use whichever I want. The thing I like about it most is how it keeps overlays separate, so they don't override eclasses globally, or that you can even specify 'underlays' that are only used if neither the official portage nor any other overlays carry a specific package. And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me over all over again. :) János Zsitvai -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On (19/12/07 20:05) b.n. wrote: > Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto: > > On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote: > > > >> Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? > > > > Yes, I did it long time ago :-) > > I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. > I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can > someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition. > > m. > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > Hi, Yes, they *can* coexist well, but i've some remarks. The config is rather different but concepts remain the same. The paludis vdb-entries have more info but are(were) compatible. Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag. Have gone to paludis then went back to portage w/o major problems. No support for binary packages yet, some warning/downgrades from the tree. Now using mainly paludis. Please don't consider this 'anti-portage', but just as my choice. For me both are good, only paludis has more features (even now). HTH. Rumen pgplMQNa8uCqx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Dec 19, 2007 2:46 PM, Naga Toro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17.43.41 Grant wrote: > > Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: > > > > > http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensor > >ed > > excellent is a bit much... Seems like a propaganda pice to me. > That said I did find paludis a bit hard to use but that might have been > because it was quite some timeago I tried it. > > -- > Naga > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > Portage has proved more than adequate for my needs. Paladis doesn't seem like anything I need or want. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] hello there!
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:32 -0600, Jesús Abidan Ramos Salas wrote: > i am new at this list... i hope i can help Me too, at first I'm basically reading and learning ^^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17.43.41 Grant wrote: > Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: > > http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensor >ed excellent is a bit much... Seems like a propaganda pice to me. That said I did find paludis a bit hard to use but that might have been because it was quite some timeago I tried it. -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Network Trouble
Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > I'm starting to wonder if I have two broken NICs after all. Do they work when you plug them into your firewall box? If they do, then it can really be only the cable. Are you certain that you're not using a cross-over cable when you need a straight one, or the other way around? And are you certain the cable is not subtly broken? Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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[gentoo-user] ldap authentication and apache 2.2 problems
Hey guys, Having some problems setting up ldap authentication with apache 2.2, something that worked previously with 2.0. I have the following setup: [ebuild R ] www-servers/apache-2.2.6 USE="ldap ssl -debug -doc -mpm-event -mpm-itk -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-worker -no-suexec (-selinux) -static-modules -threads" 0 kB [ebuild R ] dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.10 USE="berkdb gdbm ldap -doc -mysql -postgres -sqlite -sqlite3" 0 kB And in /etc/conf.d/apache2: APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D FCGID -D USERDIR -D PHP5 -D LDAP -D AUTH_LDAP" However, when I add the following to a vhost: AuthType Basic AuthName "blah" AuthLDAPEnabled on AuthLDAPURL "ldap://ldap_ip/ou=People,dc=mydomain,dc=com?uid?one"; AuthLDAPGroupAttribute memberUid AuthLDAPGroupAttributeIsDN off Require valid-user I get the following error: Invalid command 'AuthLDAPEnabled', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration What do I need to do to set this up with apache 2.2? -- Derek Bodner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
i dont find that soulution as the elegant one, must be some logical solution for that on java developer side.. everything worked excellent on KDE, and just after i did a clean install with XFCE this problem popped up.. btw revdep-rebuild never caused me a trouble, ever.. -- purple..
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
> > Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: > > > > http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored > > > Thanks for the link. It really got the meta-wheels turning for me. I found especially interesting the fact that Paludis's use on Gentoo is crippled due to incompatibilities between it and Portage. This is, of course, brought about by the "Portage" tree. Also: "What are your plans regarding the future of Paludis as a Gentoo related technology should Paludis for various reason reach the event horizon of being able to provide a completely new GNU/Linux Distribution both in the technical and social framework meaning of the term?" "I don't have a problem with supporting multiple distributions with Paludis. I know that a couple of people are using Paludis for small, internal-use-only distributions where they need things that Gentoo can't deliver. Supporting other distributions or formats doesn't mean dropping Gentoo or ebuilds." And: "Or is there interest in creating from scratch a distribution based entirely on Paludis?" "I've heard a rumour that some people are experimenting with a replacement tree that uses functionality offered by Paludis but not Portage (not so much to create a Paludis-based distribution as to create a better tree that Portage could theoretically support at some point). But there's nothing open to the public just now." - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto: > On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote: > >> Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? > > Yes, I did it long time ago :-) I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Network Trouble
On Dec 18, 2007 11:04 AM, Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > > Yes, I have a PCI sound card and it definitely works. My Oggs are > > still playing. :-) > > Does the soundcard also work in the slots that you tried the NICs > in? (If the soundcard doesn't work there, don't try the NIC in the > original slot of the soundcard, unless you're prepared blowing up > that slot too.) Yep, the soundcard also works in the slot where I used to have the NIC. I also tried lspci (just to be sure) and it works. It even recognises the NIC just fine. I'm starting to wonder if I have two broken NICs after all. It seems very unlikely to me, however. Then again, a new NIC doesn't cost much. :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
I have checked, and ndiswrapper and the rtl8187 package were uninstalled. I think that the problem I have may be more basic. The card I have is an 8197, not an 8187. I wonder if this is part of the problem. Could it be that the kernel driver does not support the 8197? The attached weblink suggests that this may be the case: http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/2007/09/26/no-more-vista/ Does anyone know how I can locate the equivalent code in the kernel and perhaps perform a similar modification? Thanks Jeff On Monday 17 December 2007 06:26:41 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote: > I have rtl8187 compiled into the kernel. > I could try compiling it as a module, then loading it via modules.autoload, > to see if that gives any alternative response. Perhaps the first step > would be not to put it in modules.autoload and modprobe it to more easily > see the response. > > Since I was playing around with ndiswrapper and the rtl8187 portage > package, it's possible that they may be messing things up, and I can't > remember whether or not I unmerged them. I'll check whether these packages > are still present and get rid of them if they are. > > I'm away from my laptop at the moment, so can't run the dmesg command you > suggested until tomorrow evening. I'll let you know whether my activities > reveal anything interesting then. > > Thanks > > Jeff > > > -Original Message- > > >From: Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Dec 16, 2007 8:13 PM > >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup > > > >On 16 Dec 2007, at 22:56, Mick wrote: > >> On Sunday 16 December 2007, Stroller wrote: > >>> On 16 Dec 2007, at 17:14, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: > >>> Running the command 'dmesg | grep rtl8187' after reboot returns > >>> the message > >>> usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 > > > > All I get for iwconfig is > > lo no wireless extensions > > eth0no wireless extensions. > > This means that the driver has not been loaded yet. > >>> > >>> Looking at Jeff's previous post (quoted added above) that's not a > >>> conclusion I'd jump to. > >> > >> Oops! Sorry, didn't see that. If the driver is loaded then why > >> isn't an > >> interface showing up? > > > >Good question. I agree that without seeing that statement I might > > > >well have thought the same thing. That's why I wrote: > >>> But it would have helped if Jeff had posted `dmesg | grep rtl8187 && > >>> iwconfig` in the same post to prove the point. > > > >Stroller. > >-- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] displaying the actual order init scripts will run
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 15:36:01 Mike Williams wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm knocking together an init script that needs to run at a very specific > point during startup. > Is there a simple way I can see in exactly what order the init scripts > would be run? > Don't much fancy constant rebooting just to make sure it runs at the > correct time! Especially seeing as it's a machine about 110 miles away from > me! If the init-script needs to run after a specific (set of) other init-script(s) and/or before a specific (set of) other init-script(s), you can add these to to the "before" and "after" lists respectively. As example, the following is copied from the /etc/init.d/xdm file: --- depend() { need localmount # this should start as early as possible # we can't do 'before *' as that breaks it # (#139824) Start after ypbind and autofs for network authentication # (#145219) Could use lirc mouse as input device # (#70689 comment #92) Start after consolefont to avoid display corruption after bootmisc readahead-list ypbind autofs openvpn gpm netmount lircd consolefont before alsasound # Start before X use acpid consolekit hald xfs } --- This will allow you to disable init-scripts that you no longer need, without having your init-script becoming disabled. HTH. -- Joost Roeleveld -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote: > Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? Yes, I did it long time ago :-) Bye... Dirk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X
You should just be able to pass the nox kernel command line option at boot, the xdm init script, from baselayout, contains a line which checks the kernel command line for the xdm parameter. -David Original message Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:16:00 +0400 From: Yahya Mohammad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X To: Gentoo mailing list >I want to add a grub menu entry that will load the system without >starting gdm, just like the livecd does when the 'nox' kernel parameter is >passed. I poked around the CD a bit to figure out how that's done but >failed. Does the kernel have to be modified to do this? Thanks for any >pointers. >-- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Hi, On (19/12/07 08:43) Grant wrote: > Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: > > http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored > Thanks for the link. > Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? > Yes, for some 4-5 months and plan to stay with it. > - Grant > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > Rumen pgpzVIORGHxCw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] brlcad users here?--RESOLVED
maxim wexler wrote: > Just to clarify: What does a 'pre-compiled binary' do? > There wasn't even an executable that I could see. A precompiled library is just one that has already been built for you from the source code. So, somewhere in there should have been an executable... -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
071219 purple wrote: > i have issues with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild > because revdep constandly rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again Revdep-rebuild seems to be an imperfect tool: this happens to me & sometimes also with Gcc & I ignore it. The work-around is to run 'revdep-rebuild --pretend ... ', then do by hand whatever it says it would do, omitting the silly stuff. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys
Sascha Hlusiak wrote: > > I have this too when using vmware and it seems that somehow just the keymap > screws up. > > I run kcontrol, activate the keyboard layout switcher (with 2 languages in > it) > and once it's activated I can deactivate it again (or switch the language > back and forth). Then it works again. What about a simple setxkbmap us? (or other layout you are using) Does that help? (You might need to emerge setxkbmap... ;) yoyo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Correct stripe size on nvraid
On Dec 19, 2007 10:33 AM, Yahya Mohammad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have an nforce5 motherboard set up with two disks in a RAID0 > configuration. The BIOS menu shows "Striping block" as 64K and "Striping > width" as 2. What exactly does this mean? Is 64K the smallest possble > chunk size written to a single disk? I want to know what's the optimum > value for the "stride" parameter to pass to mke2fs -E when using ext3 > with 4K blocks. > > I activated the array with dmraid and looked at some of its info output. > But the various stride, stripeSize, and stripBlockSize values below > don't make sense to me: > > # dmraid -s > *** Active Set > name : nvidia_abcbdgeb > size : 1953546240 > stride : 128 > type : stripe > status : ok > subsets: 0 > devs : 2 > spares : 0 > > # dmraid -n > /dev/sda (nvidia): > 0x000 NVIDIA > 0x008 size: 30 > 0x00c chksum: 4068594016 > 0x010 version: 100 > 0x012 unitNumber: 0 > 0x013 reserved: 0 > 0x014 capacity: 1953546240 > 0x018 sectorSize: 512 > 0x01c productID: STRIPE 931.52G > 0x02c productRevision: 100 > 0x030 unitFlags: 0 > 0x034 array->version: 6553668 > 0x038 array->signature[0]: 658758547 > 0x03c array->signature[1]: 1476699144 > 0x040 array->signature[2]: 414004829 > 0x044 array->signature[3]: 332144723 > 0x048 array->raidJobCode: 0 > 0x049 array->stripeWidth: 2 > 0x04a array->totalVolumes: 2 > 0x04b array->originalWidth: 2 > 0x04c array->raidLevel: 128 > 0x050 array->stripeBlockSize: 128 > 0x054 array->stripeBlockByteSize: 65536 > 0x058 array->stripeBlockPower: 7 > 0x05c array->stripeMask: 127 > 0x060 array->stripeSize: 256 > 0x064 array->stripeByteSize: 131072 > 0x068 array->raidJobMark 0 > 0x06c array->originalLevel 128 > 0x070 array->originalCapacity 1953546240 > 0x074 array->flags 0x1 > > /dev/sdb (nvidia): > 0x000 NVIDIA > 0x008 size: 30 > 0x00c chksum: 4068528480 > 0x010 version: 100 > 0x012 unitNumber: 1 > 0x013 reserved: 0 > 0x014 capacity: 1953546240 > 0x018 sectorSize: 512 > 0x01c productID: STRIPE 931.52G > 0x02c productRevision: 100 > 0x030 unitFlags: 0 > 0x034 array->version: 6553668 > 0x038 array->signature[0]: 658758547 > 0x03c array->signature[1]: 1476699144 > 0x040 array->signature[2]: 414004829 > 0x044 array->signature[3]: 332144723 > 0x048 array->raidJobCode: 0 > 0x049 array->stripeWidth: 2 > 0x04a array->totalVolumes: 2 > 0x04b array->originalWidth: 2 > 0x04c array->raidLevel: 128 > 0x050 array->stripeBlockSize: 128 > 0x054 array->stripeBlockByteSize: 65536 > 0x058 array->stripeBlockPower: 7 > 0x05c array->stripeMask: 127 > 0x060 array->stripeSize: 256 > 0x064 array->stripeByteSize: 131072 > 0x068 array->raidJobMark 0 > 0x06c array->originalLevel 128 > 0x070 array->originalCapacity 1953546240 > 0x074 array->flags 0x1 > > Thanks for any clarification. Any other tips for setting up the > filesystem would be welcome. I'll be mostly using this box as a media > server and some gaming. > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > I suggest reading this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Bios_(Onboard)_RAID -- - Mark Shields
[gentoo-user] Correct stripe size on nvraid
I have an nforce5 motherboard set up with two disks in a RAID0 configuration. The BIOS menu shows "Striping block" as 64K and "Striping width" as 2. What exactly does this mean? Is 64K the smallest possble chunk size written to a single disk? I want to know what's the optimum value for the "stride" parameter to pass to mke2fs -E when using ext3 with 4K blocks. I activated the array with dmraid and looked at some of its info output. But the various stride, stripeSize, and stripBlockSize values below don't make sense to me: # dmraid -s *** Active Set name : nvidia_abcbdgeb size : 1953546240 stride : 128 type : stripe status : ok subsets: 0 devs : 2 spares : 0 # dmraid -n /dev/sda (nvidia): 0x000 NVIDIA 0x008 size: 30 0x00c chksum: 4068594016 0x010 version: 100 0x012 unitNumber: 0 0x013 reserved: 0 0x014 capacity: 1953546240 0x018 sectorSize: 512 0x01c productID: STRIPE 931.52G 0x02c productRevision: 100 0x030 unitFlags: 0 0x034 array->version: 6553668 0x038 array->signature[0]: 658758547 0x03c array->signature[1]: 1476699144 0x040 array->signature[2]: 414004829 0x044 array->signature[3]: 332144723 0x048 array->raidJobCode: 0 0x049 array->stripeWidth: 2 0x04a array->totalVolumes: 2 0x04b array->originalWidth: 2 0x04c array->raidLevel: 128 0x050 array->stripeBlockSize: 128 0x054 array->stripeBlockByteSize: 65536 0x058 array->stripeBlockPower: 7 0x05c array->stripeMask: 127 0x060 array->stripeSize: 256 0x064 array->stripeByteSize: 131072 0x068 array->raidJobMark 0 0x06c array->originalLevel 128 0x070 array->originalCapacity 1953546240 0x074 array->flags 0x1 /dev/sdb (nvidia): 0x000 NVIDIA 0x008 size: 30 0x00c chksum: 4068528480 0x010 version: 100 0x012 unitNumber: 1 0x013 reserved: 0 0x014 capacity: 1953546240 0x018 sectorSize: 512 0x01c productID: STRIPE 931.52G 0x02c productRevision: 100 0x030 unitFlags: 0 0x034 array->version: 6553668 0x038 array->signature[0]: 658758547 0x03c array->signature[1]: 1476699144 0x040 array->signature[2]: 414004829 0x044 array->signature[3]: 332144723 0x048 array->raidJobCode: 0 0x049 array->stripeWidth: 2 0x04a array->totalVolumes: 2 0x04b array->originalWidth: 2 0x04c array->raidLevel: 128 0x050 array->stripeBlockSize: 128 0x054 array->stripeBlockByteSize: 65536 0x058 array->stripeBlockPower: 7 0x05c array->stripeMask: 127 0x060 array->stripeSize: 256 0x064 array->stripeByteSize: 131072 0x068 array->raidJobMark 0 0x06c array->originalLevel 128 0x070 array->originalCapacity 1953546240 0x074 array->flags 0x1 Thanks for any clarification. Any other tips for setting up the filesystem would be welcome. I'll be mostly using this box as a media server and some gaming. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] displaying the actual order init scripts will run
Hey all, I'm knocking together an init script that needs to run at a very specific point during startup. Is there a simple way I can see in exactly what order the init scripts would be run? Don't much fancy constant rebooting just to make sure it runs at the correct time! Especially seeing as it's a machine about 110 miles away from me! Cheers -- Mike Williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop weirdness
Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote: Have it started doing that after anyh particular installation or right after the base system was installed? Seems to me that it is a leak of resources (memory). Have you tried checking /var/log/messages or /var/log/kernel/current ? Regards, Saffi Hi, It started right after a base install, the system is running extremely well otherwise... meaning no errors or weirdness whatsoever. It feels like I am running a great system on a 486. lol! Wayn0 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop weirdness
Have it started doing that after anyh particular installation or right after the base system was installed? Seems to me that it is a leak of resources (memory). Have you tried checking /var/log/messages or /var/log/kernel/current ? Regards, Saffi On 12/19/07, Wayn0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Guys/Girls, > > I have gentoo running on a few machines and recently bumped into a > strange issue, with one of my laptops. > > I have an Acer travelmate laptop that until about a few ago was running > the factory installed Windows XP with no problem. I installed gentoo on > it all went smoothly (done this a few times) and every done everything I > usually do. > > However when running the laptop (X or Console) it's very unresponsive. > I will type a command and the text will slowly start appearing on the > screen about a second or two later. In X the Gnome UI will lock up > completely for seconds/mins. Obviously this is far worse when doing a > sync or a merge. > > I have not had much time to dedicate to this machine and it's been like > that for some time now :-( I would appreciate any suggestions. > > Things I have tried include building a completely new kernel (new > version, new config) and rebuilding the entire system. > > Thanx, > > Wayn0 > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- *Ricardo Saffi Marques* Laboratório de Administração e Segurança de Sistemas (LAS/IC) Universidade Estadual de Campinas (UNICAMP) *Cell:* +55 (19) 8128-0435 *Skype:* ricardo_saffi_marques *Website:* *http://www.rsaffi.com*
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007, Philip Webb wrote: > > 071218 Sergey Kobzar wrote: > > > - ReiserFS looks unsupported now > > > > What do you base that assessment on ? It's true > > that RFS 4 was going nowhere even before its creator's legal problems, > > but RFS 3 is still well-supported as a Gentoo pkg, isn't it ? > > reiserfs is still supported by its devs. It is just in maintenance-mode. No > features added, just bug fixes. Some people confuse that with > 'unsupported'. > > And one look at the reiserfs-ml would show all the people claiming that > reiserfs or reiser4 are unsuppored wrong. I have been using reiserfs since 2003/04 on all sort of different boxen and xfs on /usr/portage on my laptop for the last two years. I set up reiserfs for everything except /boot on a particular desktop machine, which had some incompatible memory modules on a super-sensitive MoBo that caused it to crash as often as twice a day, some times more. Over a period of two years this amounts to an awful lot of crashes midstream of emerging packages, updating portage and what not. I never lost any data, although once I ended up with all the access rights on some files being switched to . More recently said box corrupted a reiserfs partition (due to some handfisted action of mine) while it was clearing out ccache. A --fix-fixable wouldn't cut it, but --rebuild-tree got it back up on its feet in no time. On the other hand, my laptop's xfs /usr/portage partition has corrupted itself irreparably at least 3-4 times so far, on a healthy battery. That said it's been behaving well over the last year or so. I don't mean to generalise with the above observations, which may well be not representative of the respective file systems. However, I built a SUSE machine last month for a small office and I had no hesitation using reiserfs for all partitions including lvm. YMMV. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Laptop weirdness
Hi Guys/Girls, I have gentoo running on a few machines and recently bumped into a strange issue, with one of my laptops. I have an Acer travelmate laptop that until about a few ago was running the factory installed Windows XP with no problem. I installed gentoo on it all went smoothly (done this a few times) and every done everything I usually do. However when running the laptop (X or Console) it's very unresponsive. I will type a command and the text will slowly start appearing on the screen about a second or two later. In X the Gnome UI will lock up completely for seconds/mins. Obviously this is far worse when doing a sync or a merge. I have not had much time to dedicate to this machine and it's been like that for some time now :-( I would appreciate any suggestions. Things I have tried include building a completely new kernel (new version, new config) and rebuilding the entire system. Thanx, Wayn0 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to get rid of the annoying speech bubble in Evolution?
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:47 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:59 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > My wife and I run evolution 2.12.1 . We love the blinking letter in the > > notification area of our panel, but we absolutely can't stand the speech > > bubble that pops out of it, saying "You have x new messages." We know > > we have new messages waiting if that envelope is flashing; we don't need > > a speech bubble telling us that we have new messages. Is there any way > > short of altering evolution's source code and recompiling to stop this > > behaviour? > > depends what you use to get the notification. mail-notification? right > click on the blinking sod (!) and select properties. If it says "mail > notification properties" then your using mail notification ;) > > Anyway, under "message popups" you'll see "enable message popups". > > HTH, > -- > Iain Buchanan > > I never put on a pair of shoes until I've worn them five years. > -Samuel Goldwyn When I right click the blinking envelope, nothing happens. No popup menu or anything. When I right-click the speech bubble, it goes away until the next time I get email in. Where is this "message popups" you mentioned? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys
Hello On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 02:56:12PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > apologies for the all-lowercase and other features of this email - but > therein lies my problem -exclamation mark- > > from time to time x will just pretend that the caps lock, shift, and alt > keys have dropped off the face of the earth... this means i can't copy n > paste, i can't type email address, i can't switch consoles, i can't use > any keyboard shortcuts rendering most programs useless... as has > happened now, as you can tell by the lack of uppercase, smileys, etc in > this email... Well, I had this problem (and still, in some less drastic way, have). It ignored all modificators from time to time (depends if the X started OK or it had a bad mood). It started with 1.4 xorg and it seems to be a little better now (shift works every time now for me). Something similar is in the bugzilla both at gentoo and in the upstream. If it is possible for you, you might try downgrading to 1.3, but they say they fixed it upstream, so it might come soon to gentoo as well. -- The difficult we do today; the impossible takes a little longer. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgphRUh2nGsSS.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
after a while a built new desktop with xfce and since than i have issues with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild because revdep constandly rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again every time i run it.. sample output from revdep-rebuild: http://rafb.net/p/0HuBCG36.nln.html seems its filed bug >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177925 but still isn't resolved obviously, anyone else, with solution maybe? thanks -- purple..
Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys
Am Mittwoch 19 Dezember 2007 10:27:28 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:56:12 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > the only thing i can think of that might affect this is vmware or vnc. > > i'm using both a lot at the moment, so perhaps something to do with the > > keyboard grabbing is affecting x -question mark- however closing both > > vnc and vmware don't fix it... > > I've had this happen from time to time, and always when using VMware (I > rarely use VNC). As with you, quitting VMware doesn't help, only logging > out and back in. > > I've no idea if the desktop is relevant, I'm using KDE. I have this too when using vmware and it seems that somehow just the keymap screws up. I run kcontrol, activate the keyboard layout switcher (with 2 languages in it) and once it's activated I can deactivate it again (or switch the language back and forth). Then it works again. Sascha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:56:12 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > the only thing i can think of that might affect this is vmware or vnc. > i'm using both a lot at the moment, so perhaps something to do with the > keyboard grabbing is affecting x -question mark- however closing both > vnc and vmware don't fix it... I've had this happen from time to time, and always when using VMware (I rarely use VNC). As with you, quitting VMware doesn't help, only logging out and back in. I've no idea if the desktop is relevant, I'm using KDE. -- Neil Bothwick "Did you sleep well?" "No, I made a couple of mistakes." signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Safe to post my MAC address?
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:40:15 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > Damn if this isn't one of the most off-topic posts ever... > > Oh, I don't know... I think I win that contest[1] > > [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/153681 Surely the dolphin thread is the lifetime winner of that award... -- Neil Bothwick To iterate is human; to recurse, divine. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 00:01:45 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > ... we're talking about laptops, so a sudden loss of power is not > something that could happen at any moment. Unless its battery is in the same clapped-out state as mine. -- Rgds Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage update problem
Yep thanks, The default install was made on a 32bit profile The reinstall with the 64 bit profile worked out well and I am now upgrading with no problem. Have a good day, -- Redouane BOUMGHAR Physics, Remote Sensing and Digital Imagery Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:50:22 +0100, Redouane Boumghar wrote: > >> and I guess I found the source and have to reinstall portage manually >> The fact is that i changed the make.profile to a 64 bits profile since >> the server I use is said to be 64 bits . >> but it's a : >> vendor_id : GenuineIntel >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz > > This is a 64 bit processor. > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list