[lace] Punto Fiandra di Gorizia

2003-07-30 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
The following "burped back" at the first try, but Avital says it's not 
my fault (this time ), and to try again... Here goes...

On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 23:12 US/Eastern, Nicole Gauthier wrote:

You are right, Tamara, Punto Fiandra di Gorizia is not Flanders. They 
call the flander stitch the ribbon formed with 3 pairs of bobbins.
So, er, *how* do you make a "ribbon" with only 3 pairs? 

You can't have a "straight" (sewing) footside... That requires 3 *work* 
pairs; that's why the *skinniest* tenstick has to have 4prs (1 ppr)...

You could work the 3 prs continuously, pinless (done that, in my 
Partridge in the Pear Tree), but then you have nothing to make your 
sewings *into*; you get a straight (more or less, depending on tension 
) braid which resembles what we used to call "siutaz" (sutache? 
soutache?)...

So, I'm guessing -- it's 2 passives and one worker, which turns around 
pins on both sides?

How do you make turns with that kind of combination? How do you make 
sharp points? How do you make the fillings? "On the go", as in Russian 
(but, then, *with what*??? There're no spare pairs to "let out" ), 
or by adding pairs later on, on the "need" basis (as in Bruges, 
Duchesse, Honiton)? What's the title/author (etc) of the book you're 
using? Does it speak English? Are there pictures of the lace anywhere 
to be seen?

I've always had a fondness for "braid" laces which can be achieved with 
few -- up to 20 -- pairs (quite different -- though equally strong -- 
from my fondness of the laces which require *gobs* ), so I'm 
fascinated by this one; I've never even *heard* about it, much less 
seen it...

Please, "tell all"???

And, if you can't respond before Friday evening, would you *please* Cc 
the message to me personally, as well as posting to the list? I'll be 
unsubcribing (eventually ) and although I have the archives 
bookmarked by now and can track what'd gone on in my absence, the 
possibility of missing what I most want to see is too great to 
contemplate with equanimity... :)

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Re: [lace] Monetary conversion site

2003-07-30 Thread Lorri Ferguson
Jean,

Thank you for the answer, as you may have noted Liz Beecher also answered.

The period was 1768, in Ipswich, Massachusetts Colony.  This is in a newly 
published book about the Ipswich Lace Industry which was from 1750 - 1840. 
The author is Marta Cotterell Rafell, the ISBN 1-58465-163-6.  The laces 
pictured are point ground and Dieppe ground laces many of which were made in 
black or blond silk.
There is also a passage "he (the debtor) was also routinely purchasing large 
amounts of 'quality thread'.  On Aug 4, 1768, Mr. Pulcipher bought two more 
skeins of thread for 2 shillings, 6 pence.  Since lace is made from this 
thread, such purchases indicate that this household was engaged in lace 
making."

I am very eager to get further into the book.

Lorri


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> Hi Lorri,
> In pre-decimal England, 12 pence equal 1 shilling and 20 shillings
> equalled 1 pound. A debt of one pound three shillings and 4 pence was
> the same as 23 and a quarter shillings, so at 18 shillings a yard for
> the lace they would need to make something about 1 and a third yards.
> What sort of lace was this? as it seems a very high price for yard
> lace. Even into the  beginning of the 20th century adverts for Beds.
> lace showed lace edgings at anything up to 2 and a half shillings to
> the yard. Can you give a date for this?
> Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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> On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:41 AM, Lorri Ferguson wrote:
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> > Hello Gentle Spiders,
> >
> > I know monetary exchange sights have been discussed and posted before
> > but I
> > didn't save the postings.
> > I have just purchased the new book on The Laces of Ipswich and there is
> > reference to the cost of laces and the threads.
>
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Re: [lace] Summer project

2003-07-30 Thread Malvary Cole
I've just finished a Russian lace rooster from Bridget Cook's book.  Not wanting
to get back to my Pat Reid "Lace" Challenge or my self-designed "Fish called
Wanda", I decided to do the small round edging from the July Anna Magazine.  It
is working up really fast and should be finished soon.  Then back to one of my
UFO's.

Malvary in Ottawa where we had a lovely day today.
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[lace] Re: "Technique of Bucks Point Lace"

2003-07-30 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 22:57 US/Eastern, Clay Blackwell wrote:

A while back, several people on the list were interested in finding a 
copy of Pamela Nottingham's "Technique of Bucks Point Lace".  It is 
harder to find than most of her other books.
A copy has just been posted on eBay if anyone else is still
interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3541708525
So far, so good, and dirt cheap :) But, with 9 days to go, there's no 
telling how high it'll go; it's an excellent book, and I'm glad to have 
gotten my copy...

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[lace] Punto fiandra

2003-07-30 Thread Nicole Gauthier
Now, I am finishing a small mat begun in a course of Punto Fiandra di
Gorizia taken at the forum Italia Invita last May. That technique is
worked with only three pairs


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You are right, Tamara, Punto Fiandra di Gorizia is not Flanders. They 
call the flander stitch the ribbon formed with 3 pairs of bobbins. We 
can say that the ribbon curls on itself like in the Bruges flower 
technique but the ribbon is a lot finer and the joins are made 
differently. May be the association Bruges-Flanders can explain the 
name given to that stitch.

I read with a lot of interest all about your projects and am ready to 
read more!

I envy all of you going to the convention.

Nicole
Montreal,Qc, Canada
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[lace] "Technique of Bucks Point Lace"

2003-07-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
A while back, several people on the list were interested in
finding a copy of Pamela Nottingham's "Technique of Bucks
Point Lace".  It is harder to find than most of her other
books.

A copy has just been posted on eBay if anyone else is still
interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3541708525

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA
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Re: [lace] summer/winter lace projects

2003-07-30 Thread ann DURANT
Hi, all

This is going to sound rather gloomy/pessimistic/stupid.  I have spent the
first 7 months of this year making the lace for 2 heirloom table cloths, and
shall spend the next 5 months (God willing!) making the lace for a third.
Until I have done all three and mounted them, I am not going to do anything
else!

The reason?  Up until a couple of years ago I had every intention of living
forever, with all my faculties (of course!) - even after my first heart
attack, when the consultant told me that I was a creaking gate and would go
on for ever.  The second 'slight' heart attack had me in hospital for a
month, during which time I had a double coronary bypass, and lost my
'creaking gate' status.

The problem is that I have three children, and every one will have to have
an heirloom - hence the three cloths.  I just started the lace for the third
this evening - and for light relief I am halfway through mounting the first.

Ann in Manchester, UK
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[lace] summer/winter projects

2003-07-30 Thread W & N Lafferty
Apologies for posting again, but perhaps there's a some new
spiders out there who haven't read this:
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There's a joy in springtime weather
The garden's all ablaze.
Springtime bulbs and flowering fruit -
So many lovely days.

I love to rise so early
That the sun is rising too
With mug of tea just sit and look
and absorb the glowing view.
Then settle at my lace desk
And let the threads unfold,
Their pattern hidden under pins
Outlined in gimp thread bold.

But summer is a different time
Where here the sun beats down.
The grass turns brown, the flowers wilt
And dust blows through the town.
Then evening is the time for lace
As the sun begins to set.
With cooling breeze upon my face
Day's troubles I forget.

Autumn is a golden time
And full of busy days.
There's leaves to rake and fruit to pick;
Preserves in racks and trays.
I still find time to sit and lace
At my window in the sun;
And treat myself to time alone
When all the work is done.

And when at last the winter comes
Cold winds, and fires are lit
That's the time when lace is queen
And I have time to sit
To make the most of time that's mine
To plan, and read, and sew
To finish lacy projects
I started long ago.

This world still has its beauties
Despite its frantic pace.
Take time to watch the seasons' joys
And take pleasure in your lace!
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As yes, it's cold cold winter here, and I'm finishing
a Russian lace lacemaker picture, and a Beds
edge which will enable me to practice my leaves
220 times at least, still 780 to go to make the
1,000

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[lace] prickers

2003-07-30 Thread Sue Babbs
> works of art!   (He used to trade under the name of Jennrich Designs, if
> that rings any bells with you all, but now they are just Richard and Jenny
> Ives.)
>

Yes, I remember them. Do they have a new website? The page I had stored for them 
doesn't
work any more
Sue
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Re: [lace] Lace fans

2003-07-30 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi All,

I also am a great fan of Richard, but wonder if those of you mourning the
fact that he doesn't send sharp objects out in the post have tried Richard
Ives' Goodies.   He does several prickers - the long slender ones, and the
ones with a round globe-shaped handle - they are also beautifully made, and
works of art!   (He used to trade under the name of Jennrich Designs, if
that rings any bells with you all, but now they are just Richard and Jenny
Ives.)

Take care of yourselves,

Carol - in a very wet and stormy Suffolk, UK

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Re: [lace] summer/winter lace projects-an a bit of a ramble!

2003-07-30 Thread Viv Dewar
I'm a happy soul!
I've just finished a square torchon mat and it looks wonderful.
Currently I'm making a bookmark - it shouldn't take long- It's an Irene
Tomlinson design that I have made several times since 1998 (bought it at my
first NEC & tried it when I'd been making lace for 4 months.)
I'm planning to start another torchon mat next (in-laws golden wedding in
August 2004 I'm going to do Biggins/Ruthan "Jubilee")

I may be going to do a bit of tuition (not teaching) gulp!
Perhaps some of you recall my question in May about Brownie badges and lace?
My friend fom work still has the pillow,+ original "how to make lace" book +
bobbins etc. She took the newly finished mat (above)  to show her
daughter(Charlotte) who was inspired. "We're going to try this weekend . If
we get stuck could you come to help?" I said yes without thinking! It will
be wonderful to see someone having the same joy as me from those first (and
if truth be told) not very good bits of lace!
Charlotte is the rationale behind the bookmark choice. I thought it would be
nice to give her as a "prize" when she gets somewhere with the lace whether
its
Progress
Failure but sticking at it and wanting to try again; or
I've tried this Mummy and I really don't like it
(I desperately hope its not the last option)
Anyway I'll leave the bookmark with her Mum to decide when to hand it over!

Happy lacing everyone
Viv

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> Hi all
>
> For those not going over lists and checking them twice to go to
> convention, how're things, lace-wise? Everyone cool enough (or warm enough
> or tepid enough - this is hemisphere friendly) to do lace? And what's on
> your pillow now?
> Let's fill in the time until convention reports come our way...
>
> I am approaching the second move of my Flanders lesson/hanky
> edge, and after the move will be able to begin the third corner. On my
> pillow dedicated to a mindless project I have now *5* inches of the 13
> required to go around the fabric points ornament.
>
> Such excitement. Do respond.
>
> -- 
> bye for now
> Bev in summery Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)
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[lace] Lenka - Butterflies, Conference and Vancouver

2003-07-30 Thread Lenka
Linda wrote:
> I have just finished a wire butterfly from one of Lenka's kits. I made it
in green for my aunt's > 70th birthday.

I'm happy to hear that another fine wire lace butterfly has hatched - this
time in South Africa!
It looks that this species is going to be at home on every continent :)
I'm just preparing the kits for the IOLI Conference and I'm enjoying every
minute of it.
We'll introduce two new kits there -  small transparent sculptures - a
Flower Girl and a Mermaid. I thought that we'll be able to post the news and
pictures on our website before we leave for NJ, however, I received some
urgent jewellery orders that have kept me very busy. We should update the
website in August, upon our return..

Liz wrote:

> I vaguely remember
> a posting a bit back about some of Lenka's lace being on display in some
> Vancouver stores - does anyone from that part of the world know anything
> about this?  When I spoke to her at the NEC she said her studio would be
> closed.  Any other lacy things in the area?

I'll be back on August 10 (Sunday), then the Silver Pin Studio will be open
as usually (Mon - Sat, 9am to 6 pm). Meanwhile, my lace jewellery can be
seen at the Object Design Gallery
http://www.objectdesigngallery.com/exhibitsmain.html
Both stores are at the prime tourist locations, so you should be able to
find them.
Otherwise, nothing lace related in Vancouver, definitely not in a
traditional way - this city is too young and too multi-, multi-,
multi-cultural - it offers a lot of talent though, a lot of inspiration, and
space for original approach to arts and fine crafts.
Also, there is a new, active lace group in Richmond (Greater Vancouver) and
if you want I can give you a contact e-mail. Please reply privately till
Friday.

Lenka
Looking forward to meeting all Convention bound Spiders!!!
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Re: [lace] Re: Summer projects

2003-07-30 Thread dominique
Tamara P. Duvall a gazouillé  à Ò[lace] Re: Summer projectsÓ.
[2003/07/30 05:00]


> Hey, hey, hey! Don't count your chickens until they're hatched ("don't 
> divide the bear's pelt while he's still chasing you" if you'd rather I 
> used Polish )... 

don't sell the bear's hide before you've killed him  frenchwise...

dominique 
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[lace] Re: lace-project

2003-07-30 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello lacefriends,
Speaking about summer/winter/what ever-project I finished this afternoon my
lace-scarf. I made it for my blue winter pullover but it goes with white
too. and as always if something is ready I think that it is not beautiful.
My next project have to wait till I am back.
Ilske
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[lace] My project on my pillow...

2003-07-30 Thread DG Chuck Johnson
Hi Lacers,

My project on  my pillow is a square motif.  The pattern is an Australian one,
designed by Judith Markham.

It has some interesting blocks and fans.   It is the second free pattern off
of her Website.

www.laceresources.com.au

I only started the motif yesterday and I am half way done.  I am using Maderia
Size 50 thread.

Susie Johnson
Morris, IL
Where there are more mesquitoes outdoors this week than people.
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Re: [lace] summer/winter lace projects

2003-07-30 Thread lapalme
Hello,

Actually, I would say that it is both warm enough and cool enough.  This is my
favorite period of the year, when the temperature goes to 25 to 30C daytime,
and then drops around 15C during the night.  The days are warm, and the nights
are cool, there are flowers in the garden, it rains every third or fourth day,
and I wish I didn't have to come in to work.

> For those not going over lists and checking them twice to go to
> convention, how're things, lace-wise? Everyone cool enough (or warm enough
> or tepid enough - this is hemisphere friendly) to do lace? And what's on
> your pillow now?

I just finished a kind of hexagonal Russian style mat/doily, about 25 cm
across.  It was great fun to make, with a cloth stitch, or cloth stitch and
half stitch, tape that winds and wraps its way around.  I made it in pink 60/2
linen, and it has a stunning quality.  I still have to sew in the threads, but
I must say I like the result.  It's not difficult to do, but it is fun.

Last night, I started a quick band for a Christmas ball ornament; it should be
done by the weekend, and then I get into a dolphin for a greeting card.

Ok, so the mat/doily took several weeks, and now I feel like making a few
quick things before the next longish project.  I have several ideas for the
next long one, still have to decide, amongst all the possibilities ...

Lise-Aurore
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Re: [lace] summer/winter lace projects

2003-07-30 Thread Diane Williams
I am about to finish my first ever hanky edging with
corners.  I've been working "Passionfruit" from 100
Traditional Patterns using Egyptian cotton and a
bronze metallic gimp.  I probably should have worked a
swatch first, I don't think the gimp is going to show
up very well, but I'll just call it "subdued".  I'm
very pleased with it.  The pattern is all point ground
with the gimp outlining a section (I love doing point
ground).  I worked the last corner in one go without
looking at the working diagram.  I have about 6 pins
left to work and then sew in the end to the beginning.
 I've been waiting for a chunk of quiet, uninterrupted
time to do that and the time hasn't come up in the
last 10 days.

Already I'm looking forward to my next project.  I am
demonstrating at an 1832 fort in September and I would
like to work one of the patterns from the Laces of
Ipswich.  I would also like to make a bolster pillow,
but do you know how hard it is to find wool in the
middle of the summer?  I've checked the thrift shops
and they have never seen wool blankets come in.



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Re: [lace] Adhesives for fans

2003-07-30 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 30/07/03 10:06:25 GMT Daylight Time, 
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<< It would be interesting to find out what fan makers used during the
 1900s before these synthetic adhesives were around.
  >>

While not suggesting for a moment that she would remember what adhesives fan 
makers used before synthetic adhesives, many years ago Pat Read recommended 
gum arabic to me.  It was in powder/granular form and had to be dissolved in 
water before use.  Perhaps Jane could tell us more.

I have to confess that the lace did not stay stuck for long, but that was 
probably due to operator error.  In retrospect, I should perhaps have primed the 
wooden sticks in some way, and I could easily have got the proportions of 
water/gum arabic wrong.  I do have to say though that when the lace came off, 
after some months, there was no mark or staining apparent, and there still is not 
after probably another 15 years.  And the leaf is still not back on the sticks.

Jacquie
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[lace] Lace Guild Magazine / census

2003-07-30 Thread Jane Read
My Lace magazine has arrived and, Oh! I know its silly but I'm so chuffed.

The first "tag" of the lace census is pictured and its *my* design!

(well, half of it anyway)

This was my first ever Milanese design, and the first ever piece of
Milanese that I made. I know it has been around some time ("Lily", Read &
Kincaid no 1), but its so nice to think that the design is still liked.

Thank you, Marie Kell, for using it and putting it into the Lace Census.

Now, if I can only get on with my tag. I've 3 new designs to try out, but
2.75y toddler wants to paint. Sigh.

Jane

Ms Jane Read
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[lace] Re: Summer/Winter projects

2003-07-30 Thread Deborah Metters
Currently I have a mindless project on the go - sadly,
my grandma died a couple of weeks ago and I'm not
quite up to doing the Bucks piece I've been planning
for a while. So I'm just finishing off a bookmark I
made for a friend's son's First Communion.

I have finished my design for a lace shawl I am
planning to make, and have plotted it out on graph
paper. I now need to transfer the design to pricking
card and prick it out. Since none of my bobbins are
going to be big enough to hold the silk yarn I will be
using, I have to make some bobbins - i was going to
use wooden skewers and pony beads. Will probably drive
me insane before I've finished, but it is only for one
project, so I should cope... 

Deborah

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RE: [lace] Joan Kelly and her patterns

2003-07-30 Thread Darlene Mulholland
Hi Jacqui,

As an absolute beginner I'd be interested in the book by Joan Kelly on
torchon designs with book marks. I've graduated from just samples to doing
bookmarks as well. If it is out of print I could always try and find a used
copy. Could you tell me the title and I'll see if I can find it through used
book stores on the web? Thanks,

Darlene Mulholland
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[lace] summer/winter lace projects

2003-07-30 Thread Nøkkentved
Hello everybody,
greetings from a beautiful and very sunny Denmark.
My summer project is (I think) a "whole year" project, and I wil probably
not finish it within the next few years.
Like Clay I am in love with Binche lace, and I envy her, hearing about her
class with Michael Giusiana.
About a month ago I started this project. An edging for a napkin for a tray
size about 30x50cm. The edging is about 4,5 cm wide and the pattern is
Kumiko Nakazaki's Memoire III pattern no. 4.Thread is Piper's silk 210/2 and
it is fantastic to work with.
What especially fascinates me is the very large report, it is ever changing,
and I will never get to remember the whole pattern. The drawings are
beautiful, very exact, and not one single dot in the wrong place. I have
already made about 25cm including one corner, and I am very satisfied with
the result

Best wishes for a good summer to everybody (sorry Aussies, a very mild
winter for you)
Aage
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[lace] summer projects

2003-07-30 Thread Liz Gilchrist
What a good idea Bev.  Here's my contribution
It's the summer break from school and it's lovely to have the time and
daylight to sit at my pillow for hours on end.  I'm making the mat which was
on the front of the 2002? Lace Guild calendar, about a third of the way down
and being stretched by Kat stitch going into and coming out of leaves.
There's been a lot of retro lace!  Try explaining that you spent a day
(yesterday) doing, undoing and re-doing a small UK postage stamp portion
because I hadn't got enough pairs coming out in the right places.  However
after a week's concentrated effort the end (of the Kat stitch)is in sight
and hopefully it will then start moving more quickly.
Then it's holiday time!  I'm flying to Vancouver for three days before I get
on a ship to cruise the west coast of Alaska for a week.  I vaguely remember
a posting a bit back about some of Lenka's lace being on display in some
Vancouver stores - does anyone from that part of the world know anything
about this?  When I spoke to her at the NEC she said her studio would be
closed.  Any other lacy things in the area?
Best wishes
Liz Gilchrist
Oxford, UK

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[lace] Pounds, shillings and pence

2003-07-30 Thread Annette Gill
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Subject: [lace] Monetary conversion site
...I have just purchased the new book on The Laces of Ipswich and there is

reference to the cost of laces and the threads.  I would like to 'get it
in my head' how these prices relate to today.
Also how many: pence in a shilling, shilling in a pound.>>

Further to what Liz has said; 

There were 12 (old) pence in a shilling and 20 shillings in a pound.  
A guinea was one pound and one shilling.  
A crown was five shillings, and a half crown was 2/6 (two shillings and
sixpence).  
A florin was a two shillings.
A farthing was a quarter of a penny.
As far as slang is concerned, a tanner was sixpence and a bob was a
shilling.

That's about all I can remember (actually, I'm not old enough to remember
farthings, since they were withdrawn when I was about 3 years old, but I
have seen them - I think they had a robin on the back).

Regards,
Annette


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[lace] Richard Gravestock pricker

2003-07-30 Thread Annette Gill
I notice that Richard Gravestock will be at the Tonbridge Lace Fair in
October.  If you haven't got a replacement by then and can't get to that
fair, I'd be happy to get one and send it to you.  If they're that good,
I'll get one (or two!) for myself!

Regards,
Annette

>> Who is in mourning because her Richard Gravestock pricker
>>has grown legs and walked and she can't get another one.
>>
>Yes, I am really sad that he doesn't mail order prickers.
> His is by far the most comfortable one I have ever used, 
> and I shall be distraught if I ever lose it
>Sue



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[lace] Summer project

2003-07-30 Thread Jean Nathan
My current project isn't making lace. I've just finished a fan edge from La
Encajera, and used a 22 inch flat, round pillow. I don't like moving lace,
so I don't. Although the pricking fitted on the pillow with a couple of
inches spare at the edges, the bobbins still hung over the edge at the
beginning and the end, which made them very tricky to handle. As I would
find it very difficult to reach the other side of a 24 inch pillow, I
decided I needed something to support the bobbins when making something when
the pricking only just fitted the pillow. So I'm in the middle of making a
pillow extension. I use the SMP type pillow stand with a peg that fits into
a hole in the centre of the base of the pillow.

I marked the outline of the pillow on a piece of quarter inch MDF, and then
drew parallel lines from the top and the bottom of the circle for about 12
inches. I then drew an arc of a 34 inch diameter circle using the centre of
the pillow circle to meet the parallel lines, so it added 6 inches to one
side. I rounded off where the arc meets the parallel lines. DH cut it out
and I drilled the hole in the middle of the circle.

I found some one inch and 2 inch polystyrene insulation boards at Wickes
(builders merchant) - the only place I've ever managed to find anything else
that might be suitable. The only problem is that the boards were 2 feet wide
by 8 feet long - more than a bit too long to fit in the car. The staff
wouldn't cut it in half for me, so, after paying for it, I ran the blade of
a pair of scissors I had with me down it, and broke it in half. After all I
only need a piece about 12 inches by 22 inches. I'm sure the rest will come
in handy for something.

I've cut a brown paper pattern of the shape I need, and this morning, I'm
going to cut the polystyrene to fit the extension part, cover it in felt and
then dark blue polycotton, and then stick it in the appropriate place on the
MDF. I might put a shape in th MDF where the parallel lines met the pillow
circle to save having a pointed bit of polystyrene at that point, but will
decide that when I do it.

To use it, when necessary, I'll put the extension board on the pillow
stand - the peg sticks through by over a quarter of an inch - and then put
the pillow on top of that. I can turn the pillow within the extended shape,
and I can rotate the extension base to where I want it - left or right and
at any angle. It will also make my circular pillow almost and oval one, if a
project ever calls for that. It means I only have to use it when I get to
the part where the bobbins are hanging over the edge.

I made it the diameter of the complete pillow plus the extension so that it
hasn't got all the weight on one side, which would make the stand fall over.
It works well without the polystyrene stuck in place, so should work with
it.

Jean in Poole
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Re: [lace] summer/winter lace projects

2003-07-30 Thread Beth Schoenberg
Hi, Bev, and all other Convention-deprived Arachnids,

No, it's *not* warm enough here in sunny downtown Canberra!   Thick 
frost has been appearing regularly for the last couple of weeks, and 
doesn't burn off until 11 am some mornings.   I must be getting old, my 
fingers cramp up with the cold these days

The lace on my pillow is a lovely Bedfordshire-esque edging I started 
before I came to Australia.   It takes about 2-1/2 hours to do one 
repeat, and I only have about 18-19 (must count them...) repeats done.  
 This particular pillow pretty much only gets worked on when I take it 
to lace demos --- where I sometimes do other laces instead of bobbin.   
I'm not taking the lace off the pillow 'til I've done 100 repeats or 
more.   Each repeat has 10 leaves in it.   I was told many years ago 
that you can't consider yourself an expert bobbin-lace-maker until 
you've made  a thousand leaves in your lace, so this is my future proof 
of expertise!    Well, I can dream, can't I !?

Needle-lace is my first love, but I mostly do the bobbin lace at demos 
because it looks more showy.   This edging came out of a French book;   
it's been so long that I don't remember the name of the book or the 
author, but I just fell in love with the lace in the picture and *had* 
to make it.   It's not "true" Beds because (besides being French  ;-D ) 
it has lozenges of rose-ground in it.

I'm doing another demo on Friday, where I'll get to sit *all day* and 
make lace (yay!) (now that the kids are older teens and don't need me 
to be home for them every day after school).   I usually work the 
bobbin lace, but put out finished and unfinished needle laces to show 
folks the difference.   (Janette, my cohort in crime, brings along the 
tatting.   :-D  )   One piece I started many years ago pulls people up 
short a bit, now, here in Canberra:   it's a colored silk lace, 
designed from a sketch I made on Cooleman Ridge, showing a vast 
hillside of golden wild barley, going up to a small grey green tree at 
the ridgeline, silhouetted against a gorgeously vivid blue sky.   
Cooleman Ridge was the site of a little nature-trail that was burned 
crispy in the fire-storms that took out the suburbs of Duffy and 
Chapman that border on it (the ridge) last January.  A local group had 
got together to build the nature trail, and the Parks department took 
over its maintenance.   I still don't know if anyone will re-build the 
nature trail:   although some rains have come and the land is 
recovering, it's still early days yet.   And of course the tree isn't 
there.

Anyway, that's what I've been up to.   I need more lace pillows!   But 
then I'd only have more unfinished pieces, I suppose (sigh!)   :-D

Thanks for asking, Bev!

Beth
--- here in sunny downtown Fisher, Canberra
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:48 AM, Bev Walker wrote:

Hi all

For those not going over lists and checking them twice to go to
convention, how're things, lace-wise? Everyone cool enough (or warm 
enough
or tepid enough - this is hemisphere friendly) to do lace? And what's 
on
your pillow now?
Let's fill in the time until convention reports come our way...

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[lace] Monetary conversion

2003-07-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz has explained what the amounts Lori referred to are in our modern
decimal currency.

In the old money there were 12 pence in a shilling and 20 shillings in a
pound (therefore 240 pence in a pound).

In addition certain amounts had their own names. 2 shillings was a florin
(but not often used after Victorian times); 2 shillings and 6 pence was half
a crown; 5 shillings, a crown (but not often used); 6 pence was commonly
called a tanner (in the east end of London a sprarsy); bob was commonly used
in place of shilling, so 10 shillings became 10 bob; a guinea (still used
when buying race horses) is one pound one shilling.

Amounts of pounds have their own slang names: 100 pounds is a ton, 1,000
pounds is a grand. There are other names for other amounts, but the only one
I can remember is 25 pounds is a pony.

Jean in Poole
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[lace] Adhesives for fans

2003-07-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Jeri and I have exchanged a couple of emails following my email to the list
about Nancy Armstrong, which she thought should be posted to the list . So
here's the whole thing in chronoligical order:

>From Jean:


>From Jeri:
> My copy of this book was published in 1978 -- 25 years ago.  I wonder if
all
> the products are still available, and if - with 25 years of additional
> experience, the experts at the Fan Museum might have new information to
share.  In 25
> years, framers have greatly changed their methods and are using new
products
> to protect art.
>
> I have not been out to shop for glues, and am not making a lace fan, but
can
> tell you that none of these product names are familiar to me on this side
of
> the "Big Pond".
>
> Therefore, I think it would still be wise to have someone write a current
> article on this subject for The Lace Guild's magazine.

>From Jean:


>From Jeri:




Jean in Poole
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[lace] Re summer/winter lace projects

2003-07-30 Thread Karen Butler
I am currently working the third pattern from Susanne Thompson's Further
Steps in Honiton Lace.  This is the library copy, as I still have not
managed to track one down to buy.  It is called Summer Scene, and consists
of flowers, leaves and a butterfly in raised Honiton work.

Karen, in Coventry
Where the weather has turned wet and cold.
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Re: [lace] Monetary conversion site

2003-07-30 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Lorri,
In pre-decimal England, 12 pence equal 1 shilling and 20 shillings 
equalled 1 pound. A debt of one pound three shillings and 4 pence was 
the same as 23 and a quarter shillings, so at 18 shillings a yard for 
the lace they would need to make something about 1 and a third yards. 
What sort of lace was this? as it seems a very high price for yard 
lace. Even into the  beginning of the 20th century adverts for Beds. 
lace showed lace edgings at anything up to 2 and a half shillings to 
the yard. Can you give a date for this?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:41 AM, Lorri Ferguson wrote:

Hello Gentle Spiders,

I know monetary exchange sights have been discussed and posted before 
but I
didn't save the postings.
I have just purchased the new book on The Laces of Ipswich and there is
reference to the cost of laces and the threads. 
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RE: [lace] Re: Tatting Questions

2003-07-30 Thread Barbara George
It is possible (but necessarily easy) to do split ring when using one
shuttle and a ball.
Treat the ball as a shuttle that is of a different size/shape and has no
pointy end for easy feeding.
It takes some practice but it can be done.

Barbara
Cape Town, South Africa


>I came across a cute and easy tatted basket pattern a few days ago:
>


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[lace] Re: Summer/Winter projects

2003-07-30 Thread Linda Greyling
Hi Bev and busy people

I have just finished a wire butterfly from one of Lenka's kits. I made it  in green 
for my aunt's 70th birthday.  

Only one unfinished lace project to go: A withof motif that will be suitable for a 
blouse, I hope the colour will work.  I am using pink Madeira cotona 80.  The problem 
is the blouse might never get sewn.  This has been on the pillow for some time now and 
need to be finished.

Linda Greyling
Helderkruin, west of  Johannesburg, South Africa
I hope to  have lots of fun sitting outside plotting what to do next, as we have 
wonderful mild, sunny weather at the moment. May work stay out of the way.
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